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Help with dealing with depressed family

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SnotandBothered · 01/01/2011 22:20

Im not sure where to start and this may be a bit disjointed - sorry.

My mother - I now realise - has always had behavioural issues. She has always been pretty toxic - mostly to me (only child) and my dad. She has always been either crying hysterically, screaming and name calling, vile and rude or clingy and childlike - never just 'normal'.

A few months ago a minor illness seemed to tip her over the edge. Her short term memory has deteriorated rapidly in e space of six months to the point where she can't recall a conversation had five minutes previously, goes to shop but can't remember what for, bought my DD the same item for Christmas x 4 and then cried when she realised etc. She is also even more aggressive than usual and has been vile to me over Christmas - calling me awful things in front of my DCs and walking out on Christmas day in a foul
temper for no reason.

I have attended four GP appointments with her and the GP believes that she is depressed and this is causing the memory loss and mood swings. The chemist supplies her medication in a weekly chart sheet with the days in bister packs but she can't seem to follow the course. My DH has been driving to her house several times a week to check her medcation and it's always in a muddle. We can't leave it to my Dad as he (like me) is regarded as the enemy and she won't let him near her or her tablets and screams at him, lies and hides them.

My DH cannot sustain this responsibility and i am struggling with the 6 or 7 phone calls a day whe we just talk round in circles. She calls, we talk, she says I'm lying and there is nothing wrong, I remind her that we love her and want to help and that we've had the conversation twice already that day, she tells me we haven't spoken, she calls me names and slams the phone down, she forgets we've spoken and an hour later we do it all again.

I now have her best (and only remaining) friend calling me everyday to tell me how 'mad' mum is and that she keeps forgetting plans they've made or things they've agreed - even though they spoke an hour earlier.

I did call the GP and tell her i was concerned things were getting worse and she referred mum to s specialist who agreed with the deprerssion diagnosis but she still seems to be getting worse not better.

On top of this my DH who has been fab, is very stressed at work and also has a a lot of childhood issues. Like my mum he is too stubborn (and selfish actually) to get professional help so he drinks every night and becomes very verbally abusive and unpleasant. It's like living with Jekyll and Hyde.

I know they are both ill in their own ways. Both refuse to 'talk' to a professional about the issues that have brought them here and chose instead to use me as a kind of therapy (my mum is always telling me how she hates my father, should never have married him etc, and when DH drinks he rants similar things about me :(. In the day (sober) he apologises, but it still hurts.

I am tired. I want them to get better but don't know what else i can do. I feel my DCs are starting to suffer by witnessing such volatile mood swings and hearing me be insulted by my mum and DH - I just don't feel equipped to cope. Any advice would be welcome and sorry this post is so long and full of typos.

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Lotster · 24/01/2011 09:27

Even if you want us to leave you alone with the motivational speeches (!) let us know you're ok will you?

SnotandBothered · 12/04/2011 12:13

Hello

Sorry to bump this thread but you were all so wonderful before and I am having a bit of a hard time off things at the moment - mostly with mum.

So, things fluctuate between being manageable in as much as she takes her pills and is a bit tearful/snappy and very forgetful, and hideous where she doesn't take her pills (but lies to me on the phone saying she has) then becomes very very aggressive /tearful/forgetful.

I try to pop round at least every other day to check up on her. My dad is being worse than useless and now saying that he can't/won't supervise her pills because she is so vile to him and every time I go there I leave more and more depressed.

Because of school holidays and other things going on, I hadn't been round for a few days. Yesterday she phone me saying that she was feeling lonely and 'hated my dad and wished he was dead' Shock Information like this has been coming my way forever and although I still feel hurt by it, I am almost immune to how toxic it is. So i went round, she was in a dirty dressing gown at midday and her house was dirty and despite the fact that I had spent hours cleaning it the previous week, there was food all over the kitchen counters, the sinks were filthy etc. Alarm bells went off and lo and behold no tablets for 4 days.

When I pointed this out to mum she went mental. She screamed at me in front of my DCs calling me a 'fucking bitch' she told me i was a liar and then she took a swipe at me Shock. I took the DCs outside and sat them in the car, locked the car door and went back in the house and tried to calm her down. She was crying and when I went in she started screaming at me again swearing and insulting me. My dad just sat there.

I tried to give her some pills and she pinched my arm. I pulled it away and it she bit me.

My dad went mental and started screaming that at me to 'get them to fucking take her away'

My parents are 'middle class' people who never swore when I was young. They live in a nice house in a good area (not that this matters) but to give you some context about how bizarre the behaviour has become.

I was now sobbing and really didn't know what to do but the children were in the car so I had to leave whilst my mum and dad screamed at each other.

Four hours later I phoned my mum to see how she was and she couldn't remember any of it. I told her what had happened and she very coolly told me that I was a liar and put the phone down.

This is not the first time it has been so awful and I don't know how to deal with this. Can anyone suggest anything or if not, do you mind if I vent? :) thank you.

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SnotandBothered · 12/04/2011 12:15

Also, does anyone have experience of Vascular Dementia and the kind of speed at whcih things deteriorate? The doctor was very vague and everything I have read tells me that everyone is different, but there must be some kind of 'natural progression'?

I am so :( that my mum and dad are so unhappy and their behaviour is so destructive.

I had thought my DCs would benefit from the fabulously intelligent and artistic parents I had but it seems it is not to be.

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cestlavielife · 12/04/2011 16:35

your dad's request was not far off - if you had called 999 and had medics pull up they would have seen her at her worst - they would have at the least noted what was going on and it would have been reported to GP; they might have taken her away.

you felt in danger or at least for your DC. she attacked you physically.
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your dad wanted her to be helped.

so - next time - dont hesitate to call 999.

dial 99 and say you need an abulance, say your mother who is mentally ill is having a very bad episode and needs urgent medical help. that she is acting incoherently. that you think she hasnot taken her mediacation.

if you say she is violent they may send po lice round as well - be careful how you word it...

you can also make a point of calling the crisis team to ensure they come out tos ee her.

you should also call SS to report the state of the house.

so long as you there to clean up and so long as nothing is done in the heat of the moment -so that when she calmed down she can just deny it - then it will be very difficult to get more help in place... you need others tos ee her like this.

it is ahrd - but think thru for next time -at what point will you dial 999? think thru what phrases you might use to them to get them to come out.

it wont be a waste...

cestlavielife · 12/04/2011 16:37

you should also report to GP she wished your father was dead - you just dont know what she might do next time she has forgot her pills. it could only take a moment of rage from her to physically harm him.....

cestlavielife · 12/04/2011 16:39

you may also consider how you can help your dad to get some respite too, it cannot be fun for him....

and start looking into options for respite and/or residential care.

look at the options - so if time comes you know what is on offer....

SnotandBothered · 12/04/2011 18:39

Thank you cestlavie. It would never have occurred to me to call 999. Not in a million years.

I am not sure my mother would ever forgive me if I did that, but I am also not sure if I mind so much.

I would like to talk to her GP and I think she may talk to me as I attended so many of the diagnosing appts with my mum. She once asked my mum if she was happy for her to discuss her medical care with me and my mum shrugged (which is as close to a yes as we were ever likely to get), so perhaps I will start there.

SS scare me. I have never dealt with any 'official body' before and don't know where to begin.

And yes I will look into respite care and also some respite for my dad. He has always been a slowly boiling pot. Passive, passive, passive, explosion. And this (understandably) is not helping his temperament.

I am so shocked and upset by the anger/aggression/abusive language. It is so removed from what I know.

Thank you again cestlavie. And sorry my response was a bit of a stream of consciousness.

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cestlavielife · 12/04/2011 23:23

SS can be the pathway to services . you may have to pay /conribute but they may know who to refer to. and what is available locally also speak to someone like alzheimers society/dementia org

alzheimers.org.uk/site/scripts/documents.php?categoryID=200343 call their helpline and talk it thru with people who can direct you better as they have experience

Contact the Society
Email:
[email protected]

Telephone:
+44 (0) 20 7423 3500

also speak to your local carers org for info on what is available lcoally
www.carers.org/

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