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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Started Fast 800 today

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DareDevil223 · 18/02/2019 10:57

I've got lots to lose, I'm feeling lousy, so heavy, achy and sluggish and I can't bear to see myself in the mirror so I'm making a dramatic change. Losing a pound a week is not going to cut it.

I eat far too many carbs so I think this Mediterranean style of eating and the the drastic cut in calories will do me good. I've read the book, I've stocked up on the right foods and cleared out the crap. I haven't eaten yet but I'll have my first meal soon.

I know that it will be hard going at times but the promise of rapid weight loss is worth a bit of pain.

Wish me luck. I'll update on my progress as I go.

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froufroufoxes · 01/04/2019 21:13

Well, first day down for me.
It's not been as hard as I thought but I was out and about for a lot of today so I expect I'll find it harder when I'm desk bound tomorrow with nothing to distract me.
I can't quite believe I've just eaten sausages on a diet but I'm putting my faith in the recipes.

I've drunk quite a bit of green tea today. It's not mentioned in the book so I hope it doesn't have antifatburning qualities or anything like that Hmm

PhoenixMama · 01/04/2019 22:13

It's interesting you say that about growing up @bear. One of my (younger) sister's is tiny & my mum always let her wear bikinis and nice clothes but wouldn't ever let me so I assumed there was something wrong with my size. Looking back I was tiny, but obviously not compared to my petite sister. Now I have my own DD I'm trying to make it about being 'fit' & 'healthy' rather than size. But it's hard carrying all my crap beliefs alongside it. With the weight gain from my meds I honestly had resigned myself to always being overweight, so the fact this is working is mind-blowing!

@Balloon why do you feel so defeated do you think? You've had a loss so that's good! Are you getting enough fats to help curb the hunger?

We're Def here if you need to vent!

Suffolkelfie · 02/04/2019 08:56

First day completed. Had a 2lb loss this morning, so very pleased.

I was asleep by 9.30 pm and slept really well.

I have also reduced tea and coffee consumption a lot, so expected a headache this morning, but feeling fine so far.

froufrou I've heard that green tea is good for weight loss.

Balloondog · 02/04/2019 09:33

@PhoenixMama I think the sense of defeat stems from a striving for perfection. Slipping up means acknowledging I'm not perfect -this has been a problem in the past in that i have an all or nothing attitude with diets and as soon as I slip up, that's it and I binge. I woke up feeling more positive this morning and decided to view the fact I didn't binge despite a slip up as a victory and press on! I think not getting enough fat may we'll be a factor too - though not vegetarian I do tend to live largely on vegetables (and carbs in the past), I've planned steak tonight in an effort to fill myself up!

@froufroufoxes Which sausages did you have and did they fill you?

GhostBustersFavouriteMum · 02/04/2019 09:49

Hi everyone! I've caught up. @Phoenix, I'm kind of glad to have been right, even though boo too the fluflu!! Flowers to help you get better.

What amazing progress you've all been making! Absolutely fantastic well done hunnies Star 's all round!

A quick thought on 'caving, giving in, breaking' and all the other verbal weapons we beat ourselves with. It was Mother's day on Sunday, I made a choice to have a full roast dinner and a large glass of wine. I felt momentarily guilty as I popped the first piece of potato in my mouth. I have been mulling over that feeling ever since. I realise having explored the thinking process that for me the voice of guilty pleasure is as much past of my obesity as the food I put in my mouth.
For me it goes like this: I make myself feel deprived, eat what I feel deprived of , feel guilty, feel a failure, berate and punish myself, feel deprived and on we go.
As part of this process I have to break this cycle of food being a weapon to self harm. I have made a discovery during this process there are very few foods I can't do without. I would have given you a list as long as my arm of my trigger foods which I eat until I feel nauseous. Now I can honestly say that I am not really missing anything to the point where I cannot resist the urge. I have the odd craving, especially when I'm tired. Instead of immediately satiating that craving I ride it out and it passes.
I can't promise myself I'll keep being positive on my food outlook all the time, but I can promise myself that I'll keep a check on the self flagellation because I don't have to think that way anymore.

That wasn't a quick thought at all.

PhoenixMama · 02/04/2019 11:24

I think there is definitely a narrative that people who are overweight are lazy & useless, and it can be really easy to internalise that. Then when you do screw up you think 'god I'm useless, I can't even control what I eat. Clearly I can't do this', so you stop and literally you don't do it so that confirms your thoughts.

I have to say with this way of eating I'm shocked with how little cravings I have. I always thought sugar was the devil & I couldn't give it up, but in fact it was carbs that was driving me off the cliff all the time. I made that chocolate peanut butter fudge 2 weeks ago, I've had about 4 pieces max, (made about 24) the rest have sat in the fridge untouched. Chocolate could not last 48 hours in my house before. The difference is night & day! It feels a bit weird that I can be in my 40's and not know this!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 02/04/2019 12:17

Phoenix my dm always used to say I had rugby players legs, only in jest really, but yes I have definitely internalised that. I am very conscious of my legs even now, even now I run hundreds of km every month and have actually pretty good fantastic legs with not a scrap of cellulite, I still feel that my legs aren't feminine. I had some hypno and one of the things we discussed was the pillars of belief that we build up about ourselves during our lives, and how to break them down. It's really interesting.

Westwing1 · 02/04/2019 12:51

Hi, joining please. I am 51 and want to try and lose 12 lbs (gained since Christmas) in 3 weeks. I did the Blood Sugar Diet last year and am ready to do the Fast 800. My BMI is ok but I am small boned and would love to lose 2 inches off my waist, currently 33". I bought a pair of Next Sculpt Leggings in size 14 two weeks ago (couldn't fit in my usual jeans/trousers) and these are now really skin tight and uncomfortable even with the elasticated waist. Sourdough bread and butter have become a staple, also pasta is not my friend. One of my children was quite unwell in January and my father died in February (he was terribly old) so I was also just trying to get through the days.

I did have a blow to my confidence when it turns out the friend I consider my diet buddy in real life thinks the Fast 800 is extreme and I am putting my health at risk. I think she is out of date on this but she tends to have very black and white views so its probably wisest to just do my own thing. So I will be on here regularly for support. My DH is fab and loves the mediterranean style food so that helps a lot. So, that's my story.

SansaForTheIronThrone · 02/04/2019 13:35

Hello, hoping I could join in for some advice. I'm planning to start fast800 on Friday, I have the book on my kindle and have read most of it, but I don't want to stick to the menu plan of book. Are we ok to just stick to 800 cals per day and do the intermittent fasting. So, no potatoes, rice, pasta etc. The bit I'm worried about is the need for oil and butter and how much you need if not following the recipes in book. I've been doing slimming world for 2 years, so the idea of oil and butter freaks me out! My plan is to have a breakfast/brunch meal at around 11.30 or 12 which will be porridge, milk and some berries or boiled eggs and melon or grapefruit. Evening meal probably chicken breast or salmon with broccoli, carrots or cabbage and then on fast from when I finish that? Does that sound suitable? I am scared of being hungry and angry!

DareDevil223 · 02/04/2019 15:55

I'm on 5:2 now after having lost 25lbs on the 800 cals bit. Fast days feel easy now and although MM says you don't have to count calories on the no fast days, I am as I want to keep portions under control.

My tastes have changed. We had a celebration at work today, I had a mouthful of cupcake and I'm sitting here feeling like I could be sick from the sugar. I feel properly queasy.

I'm rejoining the gym so I can get back to my weight training. I feel as if I've reset my eating habits and made a very positive start.

Love to all.

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GhostBustersFavouriteMum · 02/04/2019 17:34

Oooohh good luck on the next part of your journey @dare I'll be with you in 5 weeks!

@Sansa First of all low fat means high higher sugar and that means craving carbs. Second, the diet industry isn't a multibillion money spinner because it works, but because it designed to make you fail AND indoctrinate you that failing is your fault! Third, your body needs fat to feel satiated. It's why low fat diets don't work, one is always hungry. If you're worried about the fat content please remember that it isn't fat that makes you fat it's sugar and refined carbs (also sugar)

I've lost 29lb in 7 weeks following the recipes in the book. X

PhoenixMama · 02/04/2019 17:39

Welcome Westwing!

Sansa You definitely want the fats or you will be hungry! I guess my biggest tip is to track your carbs and try & keep them below 60g. Some people find the porridge allows the weight loss.

PhoenixMama · 02/04/2019 17:40

Well done @daredevil! That's a great loss!

SansaForTheIronThrone · 02/04/2019 17:57

Thank you, I think I need to read the book again thoroughly, it's hard to get my head around spending calories on fat when it's such a low daily allowance of cals. I have got some avocado in and some garlic oil to liven up veg. I'll need to make a better plan, so porridge not great to have then, I'll maybe just stick to eggs for the first 2 weeks. Thank you for advice on having 60g carbs.

yumyumpoppycat · 02/04/2019 18:13

Wow well done on amazing losses Daredevil and ghost!

Sansa I think in the BSD book MM mentions you don't need to add fat specifically but you shouldn't actively keep fat low - so choose normal dairy, leave skin on chicken etc, have some avocado - just keep the cals to 800 ish.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 02/04/2019 18:49

Sansa when I first began BSD I came from a background of years of slimming world. The two plans are polar opposites, so expect a bit of a learning curve. If you trust in the plan it will work, I promise! The biggest thing for me was filling up on fruit, it's a big no no on this plan and especially tropical fruit. Plus the SW mentality is that you must never be hungry and to pile your plate high with salad and veg. That's a big change too, as this plan will have maybe 1 or 2 veg on each meal, not a massive heap of it.

PhoenixMama · 02/04/2019 22:21

I have just spent the evening looking at various fancy cake recipes for my birthday later this month. I do not recommend this as an activity when on Fast800 lol. I'm going to have to be super good this month so that I can have a couple of bad days but not derail myself!

PhoenixMama · 03/04/2019 08:26

I broke 200lbs!!!! First time since 2014! So happy! Bring on the next 31lbs!

Suffolkelfie · 03/04/2019 09:02

Second day completed, another 2lbs down so 4lb in total.

Feeling really hungry this morning. I am going to do some spring cleaning to distract myself until lunchtime.

Suffolkelfie · 03/04/2019 09:19

Well done Phoenix!

froufroufoxes · 03/04/2019 10:42

Brilliant Phoenix!

I've lost a pound each day and it's only my third day.

My DH is doing it with me and is really suffering with carb hangover. (He's also moaning about being hungry constantly which is quite annoying).

Balloondog · 03/04/2019 11:58

Well done @PhoenixMama, that's a great result! Hope you're feeling fantastic!

@froufroufoxes I've been moaning at my DH for not being supportive enough, i.e. I'm preparing normal food for him whilst having to resist all the carb heavy deliciousness - he's an annoyingly slim man who would eat a side of bread with a sandwich! - but it seems him doing the fast800 with me might be even worse. You have my sympathies, hopefully your DH's moaning will improve as the carb cravings fade...

SansaForTheIronThrone · 03/04/2019 12:23

Hello all, I decided to start today instead if tomorrow as I kept having the urge for one last blow out of junk food. I resisted that and weighed myself this morning on one of those machines at the shopping centre. 18 stone 3.5lbs, first goal is to get back to a figure beginning with 17!

I had my dinner around 8 last night and just had my first meal, which was so delicious. 2 soft Boiled eggs, 50g bavarian ham and 200g melon, which I worked out to be 279 calories. Dinner will be chicken and broccoli/cabbage I think.

Westwing1 · 03/04/2019 12:38

Congrats Phoenix and thanks for welcome. I have been reading through the thread and people are losing a lot of weight fast - perfect! My day one was not great, I found it easy until about 10 pm when I hit the bread and cheese with glass of wine. This is exactly where I go wrong. Still lost 1 lb so so pleased and encouraged. Today will be better. Lunch is a poached egg on asparagus (English!), dinner is 2 lamb cutlets, 200 gr of sugar snap, roast toms and onions.

Butteredghost · 03/04/2019 13:01

Omg that's amazing Phoenix. You must be so pleased you are going so well.