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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 8

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 30/08/2017 14:36

Thread 8 for the blood sugar dieters

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yumyumpoppycat · 15/09/2017 08:01

Joe wickes (body coach) calls them the sad step Bear - defo something in that - particularly when past the first week or so where weight flies off.

Welcome Frumpty, well done on taking all your measurements - great that you are doing pilates - I have bad posture and take an odd class but am too much of tightarse to do the classes frequently enough. It really does make you stand taller. Don't be put off if it is really hard for you but pensioners are doing the moves with ease like happened when I went to my first class and didn't go back for ages

Purple I think it might be a good idea - maybe post about that specifically on the Health board, as prob lots of people would know more about that, but obviously keep posting here too!

currently under 300 cals, Nespresso latte, 1 slice low carb seedy toast, butter, egg and baby leaves. Writing down in the hopes it makes me stick to 800 today! Need to steer clear of chocolate.

purpleviolet1 · 15/09/2017 12:45

@thenewaveragebear1983 we have a testing kit as I had gestational diabetes (I had a pancreatic tumour and had major surgery which left me with 20% of my pancreas).

DH asked at his diabetes appt about the diet and they said it would be absolutely fine. He is on metformin and empaglobin (or something?)

@frumpety we are starting Monday too! The recipe book looks great. Going to get shopping list written up.

Thanks all!

Fiddlemeonce · 15/09/2017 13:03

Welcome new people. Flowers

After three weeks of STS I lost... 1lb this week. So that's 1lb for a month of 800 calories/day. Insanely frustrating to say the least!! I'm still 10 lbs above a healthy BMI so plenty to lose.

I started counting carbs this week and I average out at 80/day. Is that terrible? I'm struggling to cut back as I find bread and fruit help fill me up.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/09/2017 14:20

Purple I'd probably just use yours then, and do a few readings a day. Maybe a fasting reading in the morning and one after eating? That way you would see if you were managing sugars better? I don't know what the readings should be though, they are different did gestational diabetes than for 'regular' T2

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purpleviolet1 · 15/09/2017 15:48

Fiddlemeonce I take it you aren't following the book?

Any success stories from those following the recipe book?

purpleviolet1 · 15/09/2017 15:51

@thenewaveragebear1983 thanks! I'll have to google what the readings should be

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/09/2017 16:00

Fiddle there is talk in these parts of 50g carbs being the limit, although like all good urban legends, no one knows where that started..... I do find if I start getting into the 70s and 80s it's too high for me up lose successfully. In theory if you follow the book and/or stick to 800 cals you would find it tricky to exceed 50-60 g carbs anyway because the calorie limit massively impedes your consumption of carbs. If you are allowing carbs to some extent (such as bread and porridge as you mention) then I would aim to stick to a lower amount of carbs as a rule.

I'm not cal counting today- had an avocado and some cheese for breakfast, some avocado and ham and Greek yog for lunch, and tonight we're trying 'meatzza' as a bit of an experiment. Will report back!

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Oblomov17 · 15/09/2017 16:26

Purple, I am a T1 on a pump and Dh is a type 2, also on metformin, but he's also on lantus injection pens.

See what the GP / diabetic nurse says. But a test pre and post any meal will be very telling.

I prepared courgetti and spag Bol earlier, ready for dinner.

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yumyumpoppycat · 15/09/2017 17:55

Purple a few posters on here followed recipe plan to the letter without logging cals and it was successful.

Wow that is some serious courgettei there oblomov Grin

I have done ok today, not perfect but better.

Fiddleme something is not right there. Are you measuring food on scales etc? Good idea to lower the carbs.

Enjoy your meeza Bear.

yumyumpoppycat · 15/09/2017 17:59

PS I am very impressed by how clean your hob is after a bolognaise making session!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/09/2017 19:20

Meatzza- interesting. Needs the base cooked first as it loses a lot of fat (I used 7% turkey mince), which I did, toppings were nice. Needed salt and seasoning (more than I used!) but it was ok. I prefer pizza topped chicken but this was okay.

Love the bolognese oblo!

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 15/09/2017 19:57

bear did you use the Nigella recipe? I have mince in the fridge so might try making this over the weekend.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/09/2017 20:47

No, maybe that's where i went wrong. I just added a bit of salt and pepper to the mince and spread it into a cake tin, then added the toppings once it was cooked. It was nicer cold, once the mozerella had solidified a bit.

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yumyumpoppycat · 15/09/2017 22:16

Looks lovely Bear, I like the sound of it with a turkey base rather than beef. Do you know what I discovered on this thread that is now a staple - Garlic powder Grin from the low carb muffins. I sprinkle it on everything!

APlaceOnTheCouch · 15/09/2017 22:19

Your's looks amazing.I'm so bored with all my usual mince recipes. Nigella's seems like a flat meatball recipe. It includes eggs.
DS doesn't like cheese so hopefully the eggs will bind it together.

yumyumpoppycat · 15/09/2017 22:26

I am soo tempted to eat something but going to tidy the kitchen and get to bed, how do I fall back into these crappy habits so easily. Carby day really but I think under 1000

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/09/2017 22:30

Oooh yes, garlic powder and garlic salt is also nice. I've bought frozen garlic in a pouch from asda too, and that is useful. They do all the different herbs and chilli too in that range. It is a very economical way to buy them

It is good to mix it up a little, I find that I eat variations on a theme most of the time and then when I do try something really different it reminds me that I'm stuck in a food rut. At the moment I am really enjoying spicy food, and also different veg recipes. It's soup season too, so I've dusted off the soup maker and I'm doing a butternut and chorizo soup tomorrow.

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SpaghettiAlphabetti · 16/09/2017 07:55

WI here. Lost 0.5lb. That is simply not reflective of the effort I put in and this is why I hate dieting. In the rest of my life output is linked to input.

Lost 7.5lb overall at the 4 week mark. I know it's the right direction etc but I'll be honest and say I had hoped to lose a stone in six weeks and that seems extremely unlikely.

Oblomov17 · 16/09/2017 08:57

Spaghetti, don't be disheartened.

Losing weight is very hard. Really hard.

The extra you have to do, mentally.
the less you need to eat.
Compared to how easy it is to gain weight. A extra biscuit, a few calories, every day adds up to x calories and before you know it you've put on a lb. very easily.
But losing a lb is tough.
Know that and accept that. Appreciate that it is. But try anyway.

I think all of us here. Accept that it is (the actual process of losing weight) actually really tough.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 16/09/2017 09:24

Definitely oblomov I agree. This diet also rapidly turns the ideas we've spent our lives adhering to on their heads as well. It's a huge learning curve in the first 8 weeks, and beyond. I'm realising this week that it isn't just calories in vs calories out

Spaghetti there are things you can do if you plateau, such as : cut the carbs right back for a few days; increase water; meticulously track everything. You may do some/all of that already, but doing those 3 can give your body the little nudge it needs to actually let go of the fat. I'm with you on the sticky scales this week and it's very disheartening. That's when we need our 'non scale victories' - are you sleeping better? Feeling more energised? Have you managed 1/2/5 etc days without sugar (this is always my favourite because there are times when I have believed I could never go without it); have you tried new meals? These are the positive lifestyle changes that make this plan worthwhile. Have you felt great in an outfit or has someone complimented you? The pounds will follow where the lifestyle leads.

For me, my big non scale victory is the fact that in the back of my hall cupboard there is a Christmas tub of Heroes- bought on a 2-4-1 the other day, for dd to take one tub to a party last night. Old Bear would have been in that tub with chocolate all over her paws. New Bear knows how hard it is to run those calories off so, although tempted many times I haven't even dared open them! That's a massive victory for me!

Planning a big pre-winter clear out, bought some shelving for the garage and have a mountain of plastic boxes and my label maker - busy day outside in the chilly autumn air planned!

Have a good weekend all

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SpaghettiAlphabetti · 16/09/2017 13:22

Thank you oblomov and bear. That really does help. It's come at the end of an awful week so I was already wallowing in self pity.

Dragging myself out of that now and having a nice weekend with DCs. DH is away for four weeks which makes it harder as he usually makes me laugh about these things.
Poor DH. Four weeks of hotels in the Middle East isn't going to be good for his weight.

In terms of 'perspective' I want to lose two stone. I'm 25% of the way there.

NSV.... yes, more energy. Couch to 5k is going great. I'm actually getting noticeably fitter and when I'm not at the gym (childcare restricts me) I'm doing a lot of steps. Never less than 8,000 a day this week. I'm smashing the 'more active' thing.

DCs are being forced to come with me so they are going to bed with less fuss.

Remember the wedding, engagement and beautiful diamond ring DH bought me that I couldn't get off..... they slide off easily now!

One more.... I needed to take a tablet in Starbucks this morning and my coffee was too hot. I asked DD if I could have a sip of her apple juice. It tasted awful. So sweet. I'm not really wanting sweet things anymore.

yumyumpoppycat · 16/09/2017 14:20

Wow lots of NSVs well done spaghetti. Oblomov is right every 1lb is hard earned.

Ahh celebrations, we may have bought three tubs/boxes on offer to put away for Christmas (pos gifts and post treats) ! Well done for resisting, we have a small cold room in the loft and its a good place to keep Christmas treats where I can't see them.

I was 1.5lb down this morning if I could just maintain that today it would be mega.

Have a lovely sat all

Oblomov17 · 16/09/2017 17:43

https://www.facebook.com/foilarmsandhog/videos/10159261712535335/roses-tin

Hope that works.

When was the war of he roses:

Last Christmas when cadburys reduced their tin size.

Ha ha ha. Love it Grin

Dh and I have steak and mushrooms for dinner.

And I batched cooked my cauliflower curry with sweet potato and chickpeas. Only I never had any chick peas so had to use haricot beans.

Never mind. Dh said it was scrummy.

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Oblomov17 · 16/09/2017 17:47

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RamsayBoltonsConscience · 16/09/2017 18:09

Hi, I'm a newbie. I'm on day 6 and just found this thread which could be a lifeline! I have a lot of weight to lose, been T2 for about 8 years since an unfortunate run in with a shed load of steroids (it's a long story!) but with my weight it probably would have happened eventually. I got down from a size 26 to an 16/18 with the 5:2 but now the weight is creeping up and my clothes are 18/20.
I've done well this week but have really struggled last night and today with wanting to eat crap and drink wine as traditionally that's what I do on the weekend. I managed to resist but I'm feeling a bit down. I know that I've lost weight this week and my trousers are definitely looser.
I don't own scales so will only find out how much weight I've lost when I do back to the doctors the week after next. I also have a bad Pepsi Max habit which I haven't even tried to cut back on yet Hmm

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