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Overwhelming need for a baby

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Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 13:53

I’ve not posted on mumsnet before, but feel like I don’t know where else to turn for advice.

I’m a 36 year old female. My boyfriend is 33. We’ve been together four and a half years and live together in a large house (owned by him).

On our first date, I told him how much I wanted children one day. He didn’t say much but also didn’t run.

Fast forward six months and he reveals he broke up with his ex because she wanted children and he didn’t. Since breaking up with her, he’d come to realise that actually he might want children, he just doesn’t know - maybe in a couple of years. He said the ex kept pushing him to start trying, and the pressure put him off - if she’d kept quiet then maybe he’d have wanted them.

Hearing what he said about not pushing him, I quietly waited for two years before asking if he was ready. He said this was a bombshell - he’d forgotten I wanted children. He still was unsure if he wanted them, maybe he would in a couple more years. His obstacles are he thinks I’ll prioritise work over children (untrue), he thinks we don’t earn enough (untrue - we have a combined income of £130k), he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby (untrue), holidays wouldn’t be as fun, our house isn’t perfect yet (untrue, it’s beautiful), we need to be perfect together as a couple.

He says he wishes he knew if he wants them, he just needs more time to decide. He thinks there’s a good chance he might want them once the above obstacles are removed. I’ve done 4 rounds of egg freezing to buy him time. He said he’d pay half of the egg freezing, but in fact only paid £3k out of the total £24k cost. I’ve poured all my savings into making his house perfect.

For the last 2 years, I’ve tried to not talk about it, as I know the pressure makes him want it less. On the rare occasions we have talked about it, I’ve made it so clear how much I want a baby, and that I couldn’t contemplate a future without children. He has said if he has to choose between trying for a baby now or losing me, he would choose to lose me, and that my feelings and how much I want children won’t feature in his decision of whether to have children. When I’ve sometimes got hysterically upset about the issue in front of him, he says it shows l’m too unbalanced to have children.

So now I suffer in silence and hide how miserable I am. I feel so desperate for a baby. I used to have so many friends, but hearing them all talk about their babies and seeing pictures of their babies became too painful, and I’m losing touch with them all. I get up early before work every day to clean and cook, to demonstrate how good I can be at running a house, to remove that excuse for him. I struggle to sleep over the worry of not having children. When the pain becomes too much, I bite and scratch myself. I am living in limbo, just existing from day to day. I barely recognise the happy person I used to be before this happened.

I feel at 36 it’s too late for me to leave him and start again. My mum had menopause at 38, and I don’t have time to meet someone else and have a baby. I’d also be homeless if I left him, and don’t know where I’d go. I really love him, he’s my best friend, and apart from the baby issue, he’s a great person. He’s very kind, good with my elderly dad, does everything he can to help me with any problems. I couldn’t contemplate a life without him.

Sorry for the long message. I feel so alone and so at a loss as to what to do.

OP posts:
Getorganised · 03/09/2024 13:55

Give him an ultimatum

Can you afford to pursue this as a single parent via donor treatment if you feel time is running out and he doesn’t want a child ?

cheezncrackers · 03/09/2024 13:58

He has said if he has to choose between trying for a baby now or losing me, he would choose to lose me

There's your answer, right there OP. He doesn't care if he loses you, only that he doesn't have a baby with you. He's a future faker. I'd leave. You still have time, but every year you allow him to fritter away your fertility is a year you can't meet someone else or just have a baby on your own. If you can afford £24k to store your eggs, you can afford to have a baby on your own.

ActualChips · 03/09/2024 14:01

Are you on the deeds? If not, you've essentially given a boyfriend your savings and have zero housing security.
Believe him, he doesn't want a kid. Find somewhere to live, use donor sperm, forget this boyfriend.

Comedycook · 03/09/2024 14:02

I think he doesn't want children at all and is stringing you along with a series of flimsy excuses. What he has done imo is absolutely terrible. He should have been totally clear from the start.

SatinHeart · 03/09/2024 14:06

His obstacles are he thinks I’ll prioritise work over children (untrue), he thinks we don’t earn enough (untrue - we have a combined income of £130k), he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby (untrue), holidays wouldn’t be as fun, our house isn’t perfect yet (untrue, it’s beautiful), we need to be perfect together as a couple

His obstacles are that if you have a child, he's scared that he might actually have to do some of the parenting at some point and he really doesn't want to.

DreadPirateRobots · 03/09/2024 14:06

He doesn't want children.

He. Doesn't. Want. Children.

Ever.

He is stalling you. Pathetically obviously. His excuses border on the ridiculous, and are very obviously designed to control you. You will never be 'good enough' for him to deign to bestow on you his precious sperm. And if you ever did get pregnant, expect him to be a shit, neglectful dad. (He's primed you already to swear to him that you won't put your career first and you won't make him actually parent. How convenient.)

If you want to be a mother, you should leave. You'd be better off with sperm donation and going it alone, because this guy is not going to support you in becoming a parent, financially or practically, and he is never going to say "let's have a baby".

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 14:06

I’ve thought hard over the years about going it alone with a donor. However the thought of having to tell my child that I chose for it not to have the chance to have a dad makes me feel guilty. I have the maximum respect for women that go it alone with a donor, but I don’t think I could do it.

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MrsTerryPratchett · 03/09/2024 14:06

You're not married, live in his house you pour money into, he left someone else because he didn't want children, he hasn't paid for the insurance eggs.

Come on OP, please understand this man is never going to have babies with you. Never.

And this He said the ex kept pushing him to start trying, and the pressure put him off - if she’d kept quiet then maybe he’d have wanted them. Give me a break, he's a manipulative liar.

MillyMollyMandHey · 03/09/2024 14:09

He doesn't want children.

He. Doesn't. Want. Children.

Ever.
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Coastallife36385 · 03/09/2024 14:16

It is clear you will not have children with him. He’s been manipulating you on such a sensitive issue and doesn’t care that it breaks your heart.

My advice is leave him, breathe a sigh of relief and then think of the next steps. You can still meet someone else, you have frozen eggs which buys you time.

You have zero chance with your current partner and the way he’s behaved towards you is appalling.

Mrsttcno1 · 03/09/2024 14:17

I’m sorry OP but he doesn’t want children, he’s only going to run your clock down until you can’t have them, at which point if he changes his mind he can have them with someone else.

If a child is what you want more than anything, start the process of going it alone.

As an aside, you would be extremely vulnerable if you had a child with him while unmarried in a house he owns. You could find yourself pregnant or with a small child and homeless. What commitment has he made to you during your relationship?

middleagedandinarage · 03/09/2024 14:18

If you were 10 years younger I would say just wait he might change his mind but at 33 I very much doubt he will. You need to give him an ultimatum or you could be throwing away your chance to have children. He'll string you along for another couple of years then tell you the same, by the time you actually realise he's never going to want children you could well be too late to have naturally (remember woman's fertility can start to decline sharply from about 40) I certainly wouldn't be prepared to wait any longer.

DreadPirateRobots · 03/09/2024 14:20

If you were 10 years younger I would say just wait he might change his mind but at 33 I very much doubt he will

I mean, he won't, but even if he did... he's a deeply, deeply manipulative man. An unpleasant man who doesn't truly love the OP and who I wouldn't wish on any child as a father.

Summerhillsquare · 03/09/2024 14:22

He's nasty bit of work, some of those things he's said to you. He's taken your money. You are self harming. You need to get out of this abusive situation asap, a baby would only increase his control over you.

circular1985 · 03/09/2024 14:34

Sadly, I think you've wasted your time and possibly money.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/09/2024 14:41

Oh, OP.

Please don't waste any more time on a man who doesn't want to have children with you and is making one excuse after another.

If he really were your best friend he would want you to be happy, he wouldn't "forget" that you wanted to have children, he wouldn't lie and future fake.

Put him in the bin and pursue the life you want.

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 14:46

It’s just so hard to leave, knowing that meeting somewhere else and getting to know them well enough to start a family will take years, and there’s no guarantee the eggs I’ve got in the freezer will be any good. There’s the hope that if I stay then he might decide he wants them soon, and I might still be young enough to get pregnant naturally.

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GreenGrass28 · 03/09/2024 14:47

He doesn't want kids and he doesn't even sound very nice. Telling you he thinks you'd be neglectful to a child and that you're too unstable to have a child? Unless you've omitted something significant, these are super shitty things to say to someone!

Cut your losses and concentrate of meeting someone new. Hopefully your frozen eggs will buy you some extra time.

DarkForces · 03/09/2024 14:53

He's telling you very clearly he doesn't want children with you. I'm sorry it's hard to hear and harder to accept but he's not dad material. Your options are to accept it, risk finding a better partner (but it's a big risk) or being a single parent. If you got pregnant with him I suspect he'd vanish so being a solo parent is very likely with him. At least with a donor you'd be free and you'd know.

Sorry it's harsh but you need to listen to him and he's not going to be the jigsaw piece you need

FoxtrotOscarKindaDay · 03/09/2024 14:54

Stop contributing to his house. Start saving for your own place. He's kept you hanging around because you've spent your money on HIS house. He will continue to do this because you will keep hoping he will be ready in a couple of years. He doesn't want children. Staying with him means you won't have children. Ever.

Snowdrops17 · 03/09/2024 14:57

So if you leave him you feel like your too old to start again BUT if you stay with him you wk t have any children and the relationship will probably ended anyway as that's not something you will get over and will probably end up resenting him. He sounds very selfish he knew you wanted kids it just suited him to "forget" and you have been WAY too understanding and totally out his needs above your own. Tell him you won't stay if it means not having kids but you need to be willing to follow through as that might actually make him see sense

Noseybookworm · 03/09/2024 14:58

If he's not ready now, he probably won't ever be - there is no perfect time to have a baby, it is always going to be a massive and permanent change in your life.

I know it's not what you want to hear but if you really want a baby, I would end this relationship and look into conceiving with donor sperm. If you wait much longer, you could have real difficulty conceiving.

Ask yourself, will you be happy in this relationship if your partner decides he doesn't want children after stringing it out until you're too old? He doesn't have the same constraints on when he can have children. What he's doing feels unfair. He needs to make a decision one way or another.

Fluffyhoglets · 03/09/2024 15:04

He won't have children with you.
I cannot understand why you've put your money/savings into doing up his house as you will be left with nothing from this.
Stop contributing to get back the rest of the egg freezing cost he lied about paying you.
Move out and go it alone.
I know freinds who've done this and there's is nothing lacking in their families as a result of them being single parents with donor conceived children.
But don't waste any more time or money on this man and his house.
He is obviously entitled to not want children but he should not have lied to you like he did.

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 15:10

In his defence he has told me I should be imposing a deadline on him, and not telling him what it is, and that if he hasn’t made his mind up by the deadline that I should leave him.

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DarkForces · 03/09/2024 15:11

Well make that deadline yesterday and take the power back

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