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Overwhelming need for a baby

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Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 13:53

I’ve not posted on mumsnet before, but feel like I don’t know where else to turn for advice.

I’m a 36 year old female. My boyfriend is 33. We’ve been together four and a half years and live together in a large house (owned by him).

On our first date, I told him how much I wanted children one day. He didn’t say much but also didn’t run.

Fast forward six months and he reveals he broke up with his ex because she wanted children and he didn’t. Since breaking up with her, he’d come to realise that actually he might want children, he just doesn’t know - maybe in a couple of years. He said the ex kept pushing him to start trying, and the pressure put him off - if she’d kept quiet then maybe he’d have wanted them.

Hearing what he said about not pushing him, I quietly waited for two years before asking if he was ready. He said this was a bombshell - he’d forgotten I wanted children. He still was unsure if he wanted them, maybe he would in a couple more years. His obstacles are he thinks I’ll prioritise work over children (untrue), he thinks we don’t earn enough (untrue - we have a combined income of £130k), he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby (untrue), holidays wouldn’t be as fun, our house isn’t perfect yet (untrue, it’s beautiful), we need to be perfect together as a couple.

He says he wishes he knew if he wants them, he just needs more time to decide. He thinks there’s a good chance he might want them once the above obstacles are removed. I’ve done 4 rounds of egg freezing to buy him time. He said he’d pay half of the egg freezing, but in fact only paid £3k out of the total £24k cost. I’ve poured all my savings into making his house perfect.

For the last 2 years, I’ve tried to not talk about it, as I know the pressure makes him want it less. On the rare occasions we have talked about it, I’ve made it so clear how much I want a baby, and that I couldn’t contemplate a future without children. He has said if he has to choose between trying for a baby now or losing me, he would choose to lose me, and that my feelings and how much I want children won’t feature in his decision of whether to have children. When I’ve sometimes got hysterically upset about the issue in front of him, he says it shows l’m too unbalanced to have children.

So now I suffer in silence and hide how miserable I am. I feel so desperate for a baby. I used to have so many friends, but hearing them all talk about their babies and seeing pictures of their babies became too painful, and I’m losing touch with them all. I get up early before work every day to clean and cook, to demonstrate how good I can be at running a house, to remove that excuse for him. I struggle to sleep over the worry of not having children. When the pain becomes too much, I bite and scratch myself. I am living in limbo, just existing from day to day. I barely recognise the happy person I used to be before this happened.

I feel at 36 it’s too late for me to leave him and start again. My mum had menopause at 38, and I don’t have time to meet someone else and have a baby. I’d also be homeless if I left him, and don’t know where I’d go. I really love him, he’s my best friend, and apart from the baby issue, he’s a great person. He’s very kind, good with my elderly dad, does everything he can to help me with any problems. I couldn’t contemplate a life without him.

Sorry for the long message. I feel so alone and so at a loss as to what to do.

OP posts:
PamperGoals2024 · 03/09/2024 17:31

You want different things. The only thing that will dictate you not wanting kids is when your periods stop. It's completely unrealistic to try to adopt his mindset. I also think, sorry, you were naive in expecting him to change his mind. The difficulty is being a parent means taking care of yourself as best you can and it sounds like he never had the self belief to do it. You need to find someone who really wants kids but accept that they may be different to who you thought you would end up with.

SpringKitten · 03/09/2024 17:42

OP you need to leave, forget his “future deadline” drivel, just leave leave leave. Take every possible penny you can and take all the lovely things you’ve bought for the house and go. It’s time to start again.

This guy is stringing you along.

36 is young enough still for you to meet someone - especially with your good eggs frozen. There’s no guarantees in life but this man is not going to suddenly agree that you’ve met the multiple, ludicrously unachievable hurdles he has imposed before he’ll be “ready”.

Yes, financially you’ve been unwise and it’s very hard to accept that you’ve sunk your savings into this situation. But you have plenty of time to recover financially. And if you stay, a whole lifetime to resent wasting your chance of having a family on this man.

You sound utterly lovely and there are men out there who want kids with lovely women. Go and find one of those men.

sunflowersngunpowdr · 03/09/2024 17:49

Leave him. Today.

RedRedRobot · 03/09/2024 17:51

Thanks OP. I'm keeping everything crossed for you. Have you heard of sunk cost fallacy? That's sort of what you have with this relationship. The stark reality is a man who truly loved you and wanted children would not do this to you. You really have the power to choose a better future for yourself.

Your friends are cruel to encourage you to stay in childless limbo with your partner- there is no way a man who gaslights you about emotional instability when you're understandably upset is worth losing your chance at motherhood (and a loving relationship).

Listen to your family- and to your gut. You will feel more hopeful and happy once you've freed yourself from this unhappy limbo.

Cattery · 03/09/2024 18:00

He thinks you might be neglectful? 😱How hurtful. He’s not interested OP.

pinkfleece · 03/09/2024 18:02

What a horrible man to string you along like that. How can you even bear to live with him? Summon up a backbone and leave.

PamperGoals2024 · 03/09/2024 18:07

Also to add - better to be single, childless and happy, than miserable with a selfish man and childless.

Crimblecrumble1990 · 03/09/2024 18:14

You will never be as young again as you are now.

He does not want children. All these 'obstacles' and 'deadlines' are bizarre. He thinks you might neglect a child? You are getting up early to clean the house to prove him wrong? This is no life.

Perhaps you might not have children either way, but staying with him is going to crush what little of you is left. Please find the strength to leave. You are worth so much more.

DeliciousApples · 03/09/2024 18:28

It seems, given the choice, he would leave any woman he 'loves' if she wants a baby.

He's had years of experience of knowing just what to say to keep you all interested in him and spending your money on his house....with absolutely NO intention of EVER having kids.

His gaslighting is cruel because it's stringing you along while coming up with excuse after excuse as to why he's been reasonable to ask for life time to think about what he wants.

LTB. He's not reasonable. He's horrible.

Sorry OP. He won't change. Start looking for anew place to stay.

He won't change.

Delphinium20 · 03/09/2024 19:01

OP. I was in a long-term relationship with man who flipped and flopped about having children. At 33, I left him, met DH and had our DD1. At 38, DD2.

I was sad for about 2 months. But now, 20 some years later, I rarely think on him except when reminded how grateful I am I got out before my fertility ended.

Staying ensures you will be childless. Leaving means you are one step closer to being a mother. If you want babies, it is worth every hassle, every cry for your STBex.

I don't think every woman needs a baby-far from it! But if you ache so much for one, it means you really shouldn't let a man interfere with you becoming a mother. I wouldn't trade my DDs for ANYTHING. They are the best thing that ever happened to me.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:13

cheezncrackers · 03/09/2024 13:58

He has said if he has to choose between trying for a baby now or losing me, he would choose to lose me

There's your answer, right there OP. He doesn't care if he loses you, only that he doesn't have a baby with you. He's a future faker. I'd leave. You still have time, but every year you allow him to fritter away your fertility is a year you can't meet someone else or just have a baby on your own. If you can afford £24k to store your eggs, you can afford to have a baby on your own.

Yes, this

Look at all the awful stories about evil coparents on here to know that is sometimes better to be a solo mum by choice than with a man who doesn't care about your feelings.

Also I wouldn't have done this on my own due to fear and social stigma. I literally couldn't care less about either of them now and I'm late 30s and so happy with my toddler (just wish his dad was nicer to me)

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:15

DreadPirateRobots · 03/09/2024 14:20

If you were 10 years younger I would say just wait he might change his mind but at 33 I very much doubt he will

I mean, he won't, but even if he did... he's a deeply, deeply manipulative man. An unpleasant man who doesn't truly love the OP and who I wouldn't wish on any child as a father.

He'll be one of those 48 year olds (who are obviously over 50) I see on dating apps that are 'unsure' if they want kids or want them 'someday' but also enjoy spontaneous travel and are looking for 'intimacy without commitment'

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:18

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 14:46

It’s just so hard to leave, knowing that meeting somewhere else and getting to know them well enough to start a family will take years, and there’s no guarantee the eggs I’ve got in the freezer will be any good. There’s the hope that if I stay then he might decide he wants them soon, and I might still be young enough to get pregnant naturally.

He doesn't want them with you op, if he did then he'd be getting on with it or at least promise to within two years or be proposing. He has clearly told you all he can offer and it will be your mistake if you stay.

He may well decide he wants them in 5 years at which point you'll be 41 and might not still be with him or he might break up with you at that point. He'll easily find a nice woman in her thirties to have one with when he feels like it, you won't find someone to try with you so easily as men who want kids will look for someone in their 30s.

If you leave now you could easily meet someone within the next year and get serious enough to have babies before you're 40

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:19

Before you go try and get him to pay you back for the decor in the house you paid for

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:20

lastgreat · 03/09/2024 15:14

Why are his reasons so nasty? He thinks you'll be neglectful?! Wtaf. He sounds awful.

I agree

Mangoandbroccoli · 03/09/2024 22:45

Parenting is challenging, but something tells me that trying to parent with this guy would be infinitely more difficult than doing so alone...

BettyBardMacDonald · 03/09/2024 22:50

It is a terrible and selfish thing to force an unwilling father on a prospective child/human being. It would have lifelong adverse repercussions.

You have agency. Leave and create the life you desire. It was obvious from the start that he didn't want to be a parent.

BettyBardMacDonald · 03/09/2024 22:53

my friends all really like him and think I should wait for him to come round.

You need better friends.

Don't ever, ever parent with someone who needs to "come round."

Why would you do that to your future offspring?? Find someone enthusiastic.

BearFacedCheek · 03/09/2024 23:09

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 03/09/2024 22:19

Before you go try and get him to pay you back for the decor in the house you paid for

This. And the full half of your egg freezing costs.
And then leave him. ASAP.

unmemorableusername · 03/09/2024 23:11

He's using you.

Go to asperm bank and have a baby on your own.

lololulu · 03/09/2024 23:14

You're wasting your fertile years.

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/09/2024 23:15

Why does he think you’ll be neglectful?

5475878237NC · 03/09/2024 23:16

Some of his concerns are potentially reality and you are being naïve to dismiss them. For instance you may well feel like your career is less important, or holidays will look or feel different, even if just temporarily. These are reasons he doesn't want children right now, with you. These are not reasons he will never want children.

He will likely be one of those men we all know who have children very quickly, with someone else, as he approaches 40. When he is older and wiser and ready to be less short term focused.

You don't have time to wait for him and he isn't ready to be selfless.

LonelyInDville · 03/09/2024 23:23

he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby

what a nasty man. This right here would have me calling it a day with him. I would rather be childless than ever have a child with a man that said this to me.

5475878237NC · 03/09/2024 23:26

LonelyInDville · 03/09/2024 23:23

he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby

what a nasty man. This right here would have me calling it a day with him. I would rather be childless than ever have a child with a man that said this to me.

It's very unlikely he really believes this. He's just scrabbling round in the dark because he can't just say you're the one for now, not forever....

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