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Overwhelming need for a baby

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Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 13:53

I’ve not posted on mumsnet before, but feel like I don’t know where else to turn for advice.

I’m a 36 year old female. My boyfriend is 33. We’ve been together four and a half years and live together in a large house (owned by him).

On our first date, I told him how much I wanted children one day. He didn’t say much but also didn’t run.

Fast forward six months and he reveals he broke up with his ex because she wanted children and he didn’t. Since breaking up with her, he’d come to realise that actually he might want children, he just doesn’t know - maybe in a couple of years. He said the ex kept pushing him to start trying, and the pressure put him off - if she’d kept quiet then maybe he’d have wanted them.

Hearing what he said about not pushing him, I quietly waited for two years before asking if he was ready. He said this was a bombshell - he’d forgotten I wanted children. He still was unsure if he wanted them, maybe he would in a couple more years. His obstacles are he thinks I’ll prioritise work over children (untrue), he thinks we don’t earn enough (untrue - we have a combined income of £130k), he thinks I’ll be neglectful and he’ll end up having to look after the baby (untrue), holidays wouldn’t be as fun, our house isn’t perfect yet (untrue, it’s beautiful), we need to be perfect together as a couple.

He says he wishes he knew if he wants them, he just needs more time to decide. He thinks there’s a good chance he might want them once the above obstacles are removed. I’ve done 4 rounds of egg freezing to buy him time. He said he’d pay half of the egg freezing, but in fact only paid £3k out of the total £24k cost. I’ve poured all my savings into making his house perfect.

For the last 2 years, I’ve tried to not talk about it, as I know the pressure makes him want it less. On the rare occasions we have talked about it, I’ve made it so clear how much I want a baby, and that I couldn’t contemplate a future without children. He has said if he has to choose between trying for a baby now or losing me, he would choose to lose me, and that my feelings and how much I want children won’t feature in his decision of whether to have children. When I’ve sometimes got hysterically upset about the issue in front of him, he says it shows l’m too unbalanced to have children.

So now I suffer in silence and hide how miserable I am. I feel so desperate for a baby. I used to have so many friends, but hearing them all talk about their babies and seeing pictures of their babies became too painful, and I’m losing touch with them all. I get up early before work every day to clean and cook, to demonstrate how good I can be at running a house, to remove that excuse for him. I struggle to sleep over the worry of not having children. When the pain becomes too much, I bite and scratch myself. I am living in limbo, just existing from day to day. I barely recognise the happy person I used to be before this happened.

I feel at 36 it’s too late for me to leave him and start again. My mum had menopause at 38, and I don’t have time to meet someone else and have a baby. I’d also be homeless if I left him, and don’t know where I’d go. I really love him, he’s my best friend, and apart from the baby issue, he’s a great person. He’s very kind, good with my elderly dad, does everything he can to help me with any problems. I couldn’t contemplate a life without him.

Sorry for the long message. I feel so alone and so at a loss as to what to do.

OP posts:
StormingNorman · 03/09/2024 23:31

@Sophie3451 read your posts back.

He told you on your first date he doesn't want children.

He’s repeatedly told you he doesn’t want children.

He broke up with an ex because she wanted children.

He’s trained you not to talk about wanting children.

He’s told you to end the relationship if you can’t live without children.

He’s put obstacles in your way which you’ll never get over. Because he’s the one who decides if you’re stable, if you earn enough etc.

He reneged on his promise to pay to freeze eggs.

There is no hope of children with him. I’m sorry OP but your only hope is to leave and either go it alone or try to find someone who shares your dream to have children.

Whocanbelieveit · 03/09/2024 23:37

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 15:10

In his defence he has told me I should be imposing a deadline on him, and not telling him what it is, and that if he hasn’t made his mind up by the deadline that I should leave him.

Tell him it is tomorrow. He is just stringing you along. Leave, you are still young enough to find a kind man who will love you. Not a heartless manipulator.

Fastback · 03/09/2024 23:39

I’ve poured all my savings into making his house perfect.

Oh god, OP… 💔

He doesn’t want children with you. I’m sorry.

AnotherNC22 · 04/09/2024 00:05

Op, I haven't read the full thread but please please please leave this man. Don't give him an ultimatum. He has told you what kind of a man he is and and he has shown you in his actions with the money towards the egg freezing. You are self harming as a result. I cannot believe he said you would be neglectful - I'm so angry on your behalf at what I've just read. What a horrid horrid man.

Having a baby is such a test of a relationship - the first year is HARD. He will not be there for you and will not be a good father to any child.

What is the split in the £130k household income? If you left tomorrow, despite living in his house now, do you have enough to set yourself up in your own place? The £24k you've spent on egg freezing would have been a house deposit for yourself in some parts of the country or at least make a decent stab towards them. Would you be able to earn this money back or is your income very unevenly divided?

BettyBardMacDonald · 04/09/2024 00:46

StormingNorman · 03/09/2024 23:31

@Sophie3451 read your posts back.

He told you on your first date he doesn't want children.

He’s repeatedly told you he doesn’t want children.

He broke up with an ex because she wanted children.

He’s trained you not to talk about wanting children.

He’s told you to end the relationship if you can’t live without children.

He’s put obstacles in your way which you’ll never get over. Because he’s the one who decides if you’re stable, if you earn enough etc.

He reneged on his promise to pay to freeze eggs.

There is no hope of children with him. I’m sorry OP but your only hope is to leave and either go it alone or try to find someone who shares your dream to have children.

This x1000

Stop deluding yourself.

Even if he agreed in a moment of weakness to TTc, why the hell would you saddle your offspring with such a reluctant bio-sire? It's the stuff of nightmares and permanent psychological damage.

Don't think "he'll change once the baby is here." There are millions of women who kidded themselves and ended up in a disastrous situation.

MumblesParty · 04/09/2024 01:18

OP I had a lightbulb moment with my ex, who was like your partner. I always wanted kids, he wasn’t sure. It was always Yes, no, maybe, maybe one day, not yet, actually no etc etc. I was your age.

One day it was a sunny Sunday, he’d been for a bike ride, came home, tinkering with his bike, reading the paper, planning what we’d have for tea etc - and I could see he was totally happy and content. The life we had was perfect for him. He would have continued that life for ever. But I was aching for a child, I desperately wanted kids, and in that moment I realised we had to split up. I knew that the more time that passed, the more contented he’d be, and the more unfulfilled I’d be. I knew I’d eventually resent him for stealing my reproductive years, and that resentment would turn to anger, and I’d end up hating him, and we’d be splitting up anyway.

20 years later I have 2 teens conceived with donor sperm, and I also have a partner of 8 years. I have no regrets at all about leaving.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 04/09/2024 06:53

Sophie3451 · 03/09/2024 15:10

In his defence he has told me I should be imposing a deadline on him, and not telling him what it is, and that if he hasn’t made his mind up by the deadline that I should leave him.

Then tell him you have done that and the deadline has now passed, so you are leaving.

MelainesLaugh · 04/09/2024 07:00

My ex husband did this to me. It was part of why I left. I met someone else and am so happy. You need to walk

CuriousGeorge80 · 04/09/2024 07:05

You need to think of it like this - You have two choices:

  1. Stay with him and never have children
  2. Leave him and have the best chance of children you can now give yourself.

It really is that basic - and you need to decide now and commit to that decision either way. He almost certainly isn’t going to decide to have children with you, his excuses are nonsense and it’s been going on years.

I do think if you pick option 1 you run the very real risk of you getting too old to have children and him leaving you and having them with someone else. Or just leaving you for a younger model. Seen it happen time and time again. If you pick option 1 I would demand marriage to at least protect yourself from this risk financially.

I would pick option 2 on the basis he sounds like an utter turd and you really want kids. But ultimately you need to pick and be at peace with the decision.

I do know a number of women around your age who have started new relationships and had kids very quickly because both parties wanted them and knew the clock was ticking. My sister met a man and your age, married him and had three kids before 40. Leave him and give yourself a shot at happiness.

Peonies12 · 04/09/2024 07:16

He doesn’t want kids, and never has. Get out of there and look at options to have a baby on your own. I hope you haven’t contributed a penny to his house, if you have; you wont be seeing that again.

Sophie3451 · 12/11/2024 20:04

I wanted to come back and thank you all for your kind messages.

Two weeks ago I left him. It was an incredibly hard decision, and the last two weeks have been heartbreaking.

However, at the same time, it feels like a weight off my shoulders - the anxiety over whether he’ll agree to children is finally over and I can focus on meeting someone who wants what I want.

When I told him I was leaving, we finally talked at length about whether he would ever want children, and I don’t believe he ever will. When he had said he “might want children in the future” he said he meant it was possible anything might happen in the future and that he couldn’t possibly know what he’d want in the future.

I could have been waiting forever, but by leaving him I am one step closer to being a mum, so thank you everyone xxx

OP posts:
Matildahoney · 12/11/2024 20:26

I met my DH at 36, we had DS nearly a year ago (I'm 41) and we're about to start trying for another. I just wanted to let you know it isn't too late.
Good luck for your future

DreadPirateRobots · 12/11/2024 20:37

Well done @Sophie3451 . You made the right decision for you.

I hope you get what you want and are ultimately very happy.

5475878237NC · 12/11/2024 20:41

I'm sorry it's worked out this way and hope you make your future dreams come true.

amispeakingintongues · 12/11/2024 21:04

Sophie3451 · 12/11/2024 20:04

I wanted to come back and thank you all for your kind messages.

Two weeks ago I left him. It was an incredibly hard decision, and the last two weeks have been heartbreaking.

However, at the same time, it feels like a weight off my shoulders - the anxiety over whether he’ll agree to children is finally over and I can focus on meeting someone who wants what I want.

When I told him I was leaving, we finally talked at length about whether he would ever want children, and I don’t believe he ever will. When he had said he “might want children in the future” he said he meant it was possible anything might happen in the future and that he couldn’t possibly know what he’d want in the future.

I could have been waiting forever, but by leaving him I am one step closer to being a mum, so thank you everyone xxx

Oh thank goodness! Well done! Here's to the future!

ElFire · 12/11/2024 21:24

OP. Yoh say you couldn’t have a child with a donor. But please try and think about how you will feel in 14 years’ time if you don’t. From what you say, your baby longing is not going to diminish. I think your life will be intolerable if you don’t. Your child will know s/he is wanted. Take control of your life and be happy x

MrsTerryPratchett · 13/11/2024 01:17

Great update. Now don't waste any time on men who 'don't know'. Some men do know.

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