If you run you are a runner! - runners thread 3

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Another new thread for all runners out there. Old thread can be found here - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/exercise/2014081-Runners-thread-runners-of-all-abilities-welcome

Runners of all abilities more than welcome to join in our chat and motivation!

I didn't run yesterday - life got in the way, and not in a good way but I did get out for a short 2 1/4 mile run this afternoon, average pace of 10.06 mins per mile so that was tempo running for me.

Polka you sound fed up

And having had a nail fall off it was much more comfortable after it did and is growing back beautifully now

Here are some for you blatherskite and polkaspottydotty

Well done originalpiratematerial!

I definitely need to train more. I'm not sure I've done much more than 5k since I did the last half and I'd only done 7 miles tops in the 6 months before that one! Training over distance would probably help a lot too.

I think what I need to do it find a proper training schedule before the next one and actually stick to it instead of getting tied up with injuries and life and just winging it on the day.

The nail is half off now and it feels constantly like I've got something on my toe. Can't wait for it to fall off as I can imagine the relief is going to be wonderful! Do I need to strap it up after the nail comes off? It's going to be really soft underneath isn't it?

Blathers - of course aching is normal, I ache after running 9k!

Polka hope your ok.

No run for me as had a busy day. Hoping to get out tomorrow morning but otherwise it will be Tuesday when DS is at pre-school

aches are difficult though aren't they? I got so used to the general discomfort of pretty much all of my self that I didn't realise one of the niggles was a strain that would last forever take a while to heal

I think I should get an award for the shortest run today, 1.5 miles although after stopping the watch I ran home anyway so in reality it was a tiny bit longer

I don't follow a program either just add miles to my longest run, perhaps I should . I didn't do anything with my nail but it was soft, but a lovely unblack, normal thickness nail :)

I tried following a program and it didn't work for me so i am just going with what feels right

mitchy my non-existent run is shorter than yours! Will have to be tomorrow instead, even though it's supposed to rain.

I can vividly remember the first time I ran 4km, I thought my legs could not carry me another step. Now I'm 10 years older and happy to run five times that far! Keep on running, it will come together.

I lost a toenail after the Moonwalk, takes forever to grow back but wasn't sore in the meantime.

Blathers -you are obviously mixing with the wrong sort of people. Most of the people I am friendly with in real life woudl never dream of running a marathon, so they are quite impressed that I am running even a half . Then there's my park run Pals, who are mostly in their 4os and 50s, so although they do longer races, they know how much work it is and how much it takes out of you.

I fear some of your pals are being smart arses. I heard a radio interview yesterday with a company who manage world class Kenyan athletes . They provided they pace runners for the London marathon. He was saying that they manage their athletes to do about 4 maarthons a year, otherwise they burn out .I'm not sure how many average club runners are actually knocking out 7 marathons without any bother. Sources like a lot of BS to me .

Don't let anyone put you down , your half was a great achievement. Please take enough time to recover. Everything I've read says that you need one day for every mile you ran. So you need two weeks recovery now.

I'm sorry that you are feeling crap when you should be feeling proud of yourself and enjoying a massage /glass of wine / fortnight off .

I run with people who run at least a marathon a month at certain times of the year so I don't doubt that. One of my club mates ran the London marathon last weekend and did another one Friday!

Bathers- that doesn't sound right. Most serious marathoners will race half marathons. If you are training for a marathon it would be normal to incorporate 2 halves in to your training, one early on and one a few weeks before a marathon as a test of pace. A HM is never easy - a 3 hour marathoner would be looking at 84 mins or so in a half.
A decent club runner would rarely race more than 2 marathons in a year, it should take 12 weeks to train and taper, then you need to recover mentally and physically before training for the next one.

Also blathers - you are aching because as you said you were inadequately trained. Your body was being asked to do something it is unaccustomed to. Try some gentle stretching and gentle jogging and you'll be fine soon. Aching is normal !

The guy I run with with our dogs did silverstone half in preparation for London marathon. I have to say though none of the people who run lots of marathons that I know put down a half at all, they don't run them generally ime but they are very supportive of anyone who does and will help with any training and realise its a big achievement.

I could barely walk down the stairs the morning after my HM. I'm hoping the next will be a bit easier! Don't compare yourself to more experienced runners, I bet they all felt like shit after their first couple of HMs too.

It's definitely more comfy once the nail comes off, mine did after a lovely long soak in the bath (that'll help your muscles too). Don't force it off though. I've been wearing a padded plaster over mine until the new nail gets a bit longer.

Did you guys read about the guy that cheated in the VMLM? According to his chip times, he ran the second half in just over an hour, the lying liar.

Hi all, I've only just got round to the password reset thingy. Well done to everyone for their runs. I've been on my hols in Snowdonia and I swear if I never see another hill again it will be too soon. I have only ever run less than I set out to run twice and both their times were whilst on this holiday in Snowdonia!!! Since being back on my nice flat home turf I've got another PB for 5K, my 10K event is two weeks tomorrow and I am ever so slightly stressing out about it!

Does anyone have any tips on what to eat on the morning? The run starts at 10am and Im not a breakfast person, cant stand porridge, bananas or anything like that.

Also any ideas on training plan over next 2 weeks Should I run some 10ks or keep the runs shorter before the big day?

It's not them making me feel bad! It's me!

I help out at the marathon events so have been there and watched these people do 2, 4 or 7 marathons in a row. I've passed them water and put the medals around their necks - they're not bullshitting me.

The only thing they're really guilty of is either looking non-plussed when I talk about doing a half or repeatedly saying "well, when you do a marathon" like it's inevitable when I'm feeling like a half is more than I can cope with at the moment. In their own way they're trying to be encouraging. It's in my head where I compare them getting up and doing marathon number 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 (a good few turned up to do the 7 in a row having already done 2 the weekend before) to me being so achey after the half marathon that I couldn't have run even that again today.

It's me that needs the kicking for comparing me to them, not them for being mean. They're a lovely group of people and I don't want people to think badly of them! The guy running things yesterday joked that I've now done more half marathons than him because while he's done over 100 marathons, he's only ever done 1 half marathon. There was no malice in it at all though, it was just one of those funny facts. Kristina was right in that they're the wrong sort of people to talk to right now but it's because they're in a whole other class to me which is why I thought I'd ask some runners who were more my level.

Sorry if I gave the wrong impression.

If it's only 10k then you should be fine with your normal breakfast- a couple of bits of toast or a bowl of cereal will be fine, just don't leave it too late so you're not running on a full stomach. Make sure you drink enough as well. I think it's half marathons and whatnot that you have to think more about fuelling.

Which 10k are you doing? I'd rest a few days before, maybe a short, easy run a couple of days before.

Ah that's good news about the food cos I've been reading all sorts of running sites and I was getting myself all worried about it but I can see how that sort of thing is more for the longer distances

Its the Sunderland 10K, my running number arrived today so thats made it seem a lot more like its actually happening. Im half scared half excited I'm currently compiling my playlist for my Ipod

mummylion I did my first ever organised 10k race recently and just had a bowl of cereal and a cup of tea at about 7.30 and that was fine.

Being hydrated is a lot more important than what you eat for 10k I think. I always try to hydrate really well the day before (so my pee is clear) and have a carb-y dinner then I might have a bottle of lucozade in the morning before I go. I don't do breakfast normally and won't necessarily eat before a 10k unless I'm hungry.

Cereal bars are good if you want something small.

Thanks for the tips I think I'll just go for a bit of toast then but make sure I'm really hydrated.

FWIW, I hadn't previously been in the habit of carrying water even on longer runs but for some reason even though I thought I was well hydrated I started to feel really thirsty after a short time! I really regretted not having taken a small water bottle. Just, as I say, fwiw (probably nothing). I think I was a bit nervous and that made my mouth and throat feel dry.

I always carry water even on a 5k. I thinks its psychological with me but I just feel a bit stressed if I don't have it with me so I'll be ok on that front.

I've read that for a hm or anything under you don't need any special diet but I know lots who take gels/jelly babies for hm's. I struggle to eat/drink anything when I'm running which I don't think helps with longer distances. I love 10k's, I think they're my perfect distance!

I have a club mate who's convinced everyone who runs will eventually do a marathon too blatherskite!! Se is lovely about it though. One of my doggy running friends who's done serve all marathons told me to remember that a half is a huge achievement, and that it's sometimes hard to appreciate that when lots around you are doing multiple marathons. How many people can say they've run one let alone two hm's? She also told me it will take around 10hm's to get it sorted so I keep hoping!

And lip balm helps with the dry mouth feeling :)