Runners thread - runners of all abilities welcome

[Sirzy]

As the first thread ( www.mumsnet.com/Talk/exercise/1948631-Is-there-a-general-running-thread? ) is now pretty much full time for a new one.

Thread for anyone who runs no matter how fast or slow or how long you run for to discuss all things running!

[Jeregrette]

Waves to Sirzy

A non running day for me to day (got to rest those damn knees!) which I find frustrating but know I have to do it to reap the benefits of training.

Am dipping into Bob Glover's competitive Runner's Handbook when I can. It's a wonderful resource for runners and covers just about everything you need to know about running/training for various distances.

[NinetyNinePercentTroll]

Hola Sirzy!

Jere, I've read a string of running books recently obsessive, moi? - That one that everyone raved about, Running Like A Girl (?), then one about running around a village (?), one about armchairs and running. Currently reading one about Ultramarathons (fat man to Green Man, something like that?), ok so far. Sorry I'm so vague on titles, it's not my strong point (I'm the same with films).

[NinetyNinePercentTroll]

Rest day for me too. Last out on Sun. Out tomorrow. I do 10k 3-4 x week.

[Jeregrette]

Yeah I've read Running like a girl, Feet in the clouds, Running with Kenyans, Books by Ultramarathoners Jurek and Karnasez (Ultramarathons fascinate me), Born to Run, of course, I love them.

I also love hearing abvout women who started late in life like Helen Klein (American ultramarathoner) now in her 70s or 80s, The iron nun who does loads of ironman triathalons and Priscilla Welch who started eartlier at 36 but made the Olympics wgen she was 39 and set lots of Masters records thereafter.

I think the wonderful thing about running is you can start late and if you discover you are good at it, could go on to set Masters World records ( we can dream!)

[feetheart]

Beautiful morning - cold, crisp and clear, my ideal running weather.
Did 3.8miles before breakfast and can now feel smug all day :)
Not so happy with the time as it was supposed to be a fast run but head feels clear and should feels restored.
Does anyone else use the 'age grading' system to track progress? Not quite sure I understand it completely but my percentage figure is going up which is good I think.

[feetheart]

soul not should

[Fishandjam]

Hi feetheart. Yes, I use the age grading thing a bit - I console myself when looking at my rather low percentages (though rising, as you say) with the fact that I'm being measured against the fastest person on earth in my category

On another topic, please could you all advise? I'm looking to get a small rucksack that I can comfortably run with on longer distances, to hold things like car keys, water, phone, food, whatnot. Any recommendations would be gratefully received!

[RufflingFeathers]

Hey all. can I mark my place, have been lurking…..!

[Sirzy]

whats the age grading thing?

Hi Rufflinf.

[Sirzy]

ruffling even

[ThursdayLast]

I only heard about age grading on Sat after my parkrun.
I don't know exactly how it works Sirzy, but it allows you to compare yourself to other runners of different ages/abilities over different distances. It's worked out as a percentage, mine was 50.something

I did my long run earlier, but accidentally paused runkeeper for what I suspect was about ten minutes FFS
Anyway,it's a route I've done before, approx 7.5 miles, I was just pleased to get out and cover a fair distance. I'm starving now though!

[MrsFrankTurner]

I've paused map my run before and only realised when I noticed my coach hadn't spoken for a while! Vvvv annoying -sympathies Thursday

I know what you mean about the hunger but mine strikes 24 hours later -I can feel quite sick after a run for a few hours & have to force feed myself but the next day (like today!) I'm ravenous! Guessing it's my body compensating for what I've lost but it's most annoying I don't feel like this straight after!
Rest day for me today -quick 20 min tomorrow then 50 mins Friday

[NinetyNinePercentTroll]

Jere, ultras are an area of "omg" interest to me too. I'd love to do it do I, but having never even managed a half marathon, I'm a long way off. The thing is, I know that I felt like I couldn't run 2k a year ago and I look at how far I've come and almost think "anything's possible". It was psychological barriers holding me back from running further and looking at future goals /increasing distances - obviously with proper training (and nutrition!), I'm pretty sure I could run and run and run.

[NinetyNinePercentTroll]

Re hunger, I find the nutrition thing hard because I'm a fairly light eater and eating less than 3hrs pre run makes me feel v sick (I even have trouble with water) and I find that I'm not hungry after I run either. It seems to steal my appetite. I have to force myself to eat (H gives me the "stern face"), not because of any worry re gaining weight or calories or whatever, just purely from a hunger/nausea point of view. It's almost like I'm so full of adrenaline post run that food makes me queasy.

[ThursdayLast]

I'm not generally a light eater NinetyNine, but other than that I feel the same.
I simply cannot get into any kind of groove if I've eaten in the last three hours, and it takes me an hour to feel hungry after. Often I eat when I get in due to the logistics of our lives, but without any proper appetite for it.
But after 7-8 miles today all early evening all I could think about was cheese scones

[cinnamongreyhound]

I have got better at eating closer to running the more I've been doing it. Some days I get back and eat my tea straight away and other days I can't eat for some time and don't really know what the difference is. Been out and done 5.5 miles this evening with dogs :)

[roquefortlover]

This thread is really busy! Lots of us delurking at once and lots of good runs too. Commiserations to those struggling with injury, hope you are back on form soon! Re age gradings, I do find motivating, and it helps to remind me not to feel dispirited when I am running with the 25 year olds at my running club! I have read most of the running books mentioned as am obsessed with both running and reading so they combine my two favourite pastimes in one lovely package . Another good one if you like running like a girl is the lazy runner by Laura Fountain - she has a blog as well which I like.
I can't eat very close to running either, it makes me feel really sick and gives me stitch! I had to make a real effort with the timing of fuelling before my HM long runs and the race itself, and I still prefer to eat very lightly and about 2 or 3 hours before. then jelly beans every half hour on the long runs to keep going! Afterwards is another matter though, no problems eating huge amounts then....and I have lots of cheese scones made by dd at college if you are interested Thursday!
Not run today, strength training at home instead. Ran yesterday with Club, decided to push myself a bit so went with middle group some of whom are pretty fast, so as they were chatting at easy pace I and a couple of others were puffing along at the back! Plus the route seemed to stick together all my least favourite hills around town, and my Garmin wouldnt find a satellite so I don't know how far or fast we went.. Oh well, really enjoyed catching up with everyone and I think it was about 50 minutes and maybe 5 or 6 miles? Might try a longer run tomorrow if I can leave work a bit early.

Enjoy the sunshine!

[ThursdayLast]

Yes please

[roquefortlover]

I will send you a virtual one! They are yummy and she is very proud. Just imagine this is a cheesy delight not a boring biscuit !

[Jeregrette]

Just went out and did my usual 5k in about 28 minutes. Then tagged on another k on the end and finished going up a 5 minute long hill (good for the old quads!)

Not back to my fastest yet but taking it steady as got a 10k coming up and don't want another injury.

Fingers crossed.

[ThursdayLast]

Yummy, thank you
Jere, do you live in a town? I'd get run over for sure if I went out now . I also use hills as 'extra' training, buns-of-steel-buns-of-steel going like a mantra in my head as I take steps about 3inches long!

[Jeregrette]

Yes, I live in a suburb and there are long straight pavements with cycle tracks and walking tracks parallel and there are lots of runners about - it's great. I almost always go out once the children are in bed so used to running in dark. Wouldnt do it in the sticks though.

[MrsFrankTurner]

Ooh thanks for the book recommendation Roquefort I'll check that out I love a good running book I gained the confidence to actually go out & run 3 years ago because I read a fab chick-lit book 'mum on the run' by Fiona Gibson - really made me chuckle and think "yeah, why not....I can run"!
I really struggle with the nutrition and really don't think I eat at the 'right' times in that I completely miss the "carb window" as I feel so sick but it's a work in progress!

[roquefortlover]

Jeregrette I am impressed by you going out so late In the evening, I only ever run with running club after dark, partly visibility but also find it hard to motivate myself to leave the house once everyone else is settling down.

I am trying to grow to love hills, live in a gently hilly area so I can't avoid them although I have tried! I do think hills are great for measuring progress and training on them makes the flat seem like you're flying.

[SinglePringle]

Thanks Jeregrette. I do try and run slightly slower but I end up,listening to fast music and running speed just increases! Good tip though - to work on endurance not time. Will give it a to tomorrow and report back...