Brexit Mega Thread 16 – Who's Next?

[LouiseCollins28]

We are approaching the 6th anniversary of Brexit, or I suppose the 5th, if you count the period of transition as "in."

Since then, the world has endured Covid-19, seen war in Ukraine and many other things. Brexit has had reduced salience in the minds of many people recently.

When digesting the latest setbacks to befall the elite who govern our islands, a phrase I keep returning to, is “OK, so now do you get it?”

Brexit is undoubtedly the biggest “OK, so now do you get it?” moment directed at our leaders in my life. It’s surely the largest since 1979, since the Labour victory of 1945? or even since the advent of universal suffrage?

The U.K. local elections in 2026, and subsequent national ones, could see a big increase in support for the Green Party and Reform U.K. Two parties with more different attitudes to European integration could scarcely be found, so Brexit’s salience in the U.K. may rise again soon
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There are many electoral contests in progress or coming across Europe too (the Netherlands and France, for example) which will be worth paying attention to. Maybe the next questions we will face are less about "what next?" and more about "who's next?"

Relations between mainland Europe and the UK remain a worthy topic for discussion, whoever leads the nations of Europe, or leads the E.U. itself.

@DuncinToffee

Facts are not smears.

So, why are the alleged facts not being presented to a court by yourself. If there are irrefutable facts available what have you got to lose by suing?

@MaybeNotBob

Had Farage not taken the government to court, yesterday’s vote would not have happened. Are you happy to be governed by a party that doesn’t want you to have a vote?

What prevents you from suing, Farage, the government or the press?

I take it you don't read beyond the headlines.

Typical of Deform voters...

Taking to court is very Trumpesque, du sublime au ridicule

Yes, Trump sues an awful lot of people, for all kinds of things.

But never once for someone calling him a paedophile...

Farage hasn't had much to say on the Epstein files.

@DuncinToffee
@MaybeNotBob

You have not explained why you are not suing. Lots of talk and smears, but no action. Same since 23 June 2016.

Why is Farage, or anyone else, obligated to comment on Epstein?

What has Trump got to do with yesterdays vote in the UK?

You keep calling them smears. Funny, I thought they were facts.

Not that a Brexiteer would ever care about facts though...

@MaybeNotBob

Funny, I thought they were facts.

Maybe (get it) you thought wrong.

Still doesn’t answer the question though.

If there are facts available that prove guilt, why has no action been taken?

The facts are there. The fact that you don't like them doesn't stop them from being facts...

There's a parliamentary mechanism for investigating financial shenanigans. Farage knows this, it's why he refuses to answer questions. That mechanism has to work itself out before any court action might be appropriate.

@pointythings

Who is in charge of the parliamentary mechanism for investigations? Why have they not initiated an investigation?

How will any investigation change how people voted in the recent local elections?

You really don't know anything about how the UK Parliament works, do you? And yet you post screeds of nonsense as if you have a clue. It's amazing.

You refer someone to the Parliamentary Standards Commissioner. The Conservatives have already done this with Farage's little bung, so it will be investigated and he will be called to account. The investigation is in fact already going on.

And unless you have a time machine, you can't change the way people voted in the local elections. That should be obvious. The investigation will however show Farage up for the accountability dodging dishonest grifter he is. Unfortunately the people who vote for him think this is a positive, which says a lot about their morals, or lack thereof.

@MaybeNotBob

Maybe (get it?) people don’t care what Farage does in his private life. Hard to prove, but I would say this would never have been mentioned if he was doing badly in the polls.

Zack Polanski used to be a hypnotist who claimed he could enlarge women’s breasts, but he is gaining support.

Some in UK think that Trump should not have been allowed to run for president because of his past, but what has election of a US president got to do with anyone outside of the US?

The point is simple:

People are entitled to vote for whoever they wish. Approval from others is not required.

Rather than try to dig up the past to try and discredit Farage, why don’t the other parties specify why their policies are better than Reforms?

@pointythings

A formal investigation has not been instigated. Why is that?

Unfortunately the people who vote for him think this is a positive, which says a lot about their morals, or lack thereof.

Another remain knows better statement.

The only qualification needed to be entitled to vote in the UK is to be over 18.

I remember that you are Dutch. If so, why don’t you return to the Netherlands if UK is a bad place?

You really do have difficulty with basic comprehension!

Yes, people are entitled to vote for whoever they want, but that doesn't stop them being incredibly stupid, and/or entirely ignorant of the policies of the people they're voting for. See the Brexit referendum.

Pointing these things out to them will obviously not change the minds of the terminally gullible, or the determinedly racist, but for people who may be slightly less credulous it may, possibly, make them think...

Why don't you go home?

Does that go both ways?

@MaybeNotBob

Maybe (get it?) you have forgotten that Article 50 was triggered by 498 MPs who were elected by the UK electorate.

To trigger article 49, the mechanism to rejoin the EU, would require an act of parliament, but not a referendum.

Starmer has a huge majority of MPs and could get anything passed, but has never mentioned triggering article 49. If, as you claim, there is irrefutable proof that Brexit has made the UK worse off, why has Starmer not asked MPs to vote?

@DuncinToffee

I have properties in both UK and Eastern Europe. UK is for family ties. Eastern Europe is best for low taxes and low living costs compared to the UK.

It doesn't go both ways then.

And life is better in the EU for you.

https://bsky.app/profile/palmapolyak.bsky.social/post/3mlgbe524x22b

After 12 years, the EU flag is back on Hungary’s Parliament building — the new Speaker’s very first decision.

A happy Schuman Day indeed.

The council election results are fascinating
the biggest move has been to "no overall control"
and where Reform are the largest party, they will likely get to become committee chairs
resulting in their lack of comprehension (see Kent) becoming very clear very quickly.

The coming by elections - particularly for the bloke convicted of modern slavery
will be amusing

Odd that nobody is covering the collapse in the vote for the Brexit Party or UKIP

An investigation by the Parliamentary Standards Commission IS a formal investigation... Again, perhaps you should read up on how UK politics works before pontificating about it.

As for your other statement - 'why don't you leave then' is the weapon of last resort of those with absolutely nothing valid to say.

Oh, not this irrelevant twaddle again!

FFS! Please change the record!

@MaybeNotBob

Remain supporters have played the same record since 23 June 2016. It’s called:

Remain know better because we say so

Your personal record is called:

All Brexit voters are both racist and thick

@pointythings

Investigation is not proof of wrong doing. Take a look at

https://www.parliament.uk/globalassets/documents/pcfs/rectifications/mr-nigel-farage-mp-rectification-2026.pdf

I was subject to a HMRC investigation in 2004. Outcome was that they owed me!

I never said that investigation is proof of wrongdoing. But an investigation is ongoing. Let's see what it finds, shall we?

Oh, and why do you think I have no family ties in the UK? I really do wonder what your reasoning is there. Because I do.

https://bsky.app/profile/adamjschwarz.bsky.social/post/3mlgh6dq76s23

Hungary’s parliament sings “Ode to Joy” — the anthem of Europe — after Péter Magyar is sworn in as prime minister.

Hungary is once again a proud member of the European Union.