Brexit mega thread part 13: All eyes on Ireland

[SerendipityJane]

With the Windsor framework up & running, and the DUP having a "you could set your calendar by it" hissy fit, but Irish unification refusing to keep it's head down, what next in the long running sage of UK vs. the real world ?

Looks like our Conservative Brexity Government chose to ratify this into UK law, even though the EU only put it in place after we left -but they didn't exactly shout about it from the rooftops

https://www.webuyanycar.com/guides/car-ownership/speed-limiters/#:~:text=On%206th%20July%202022%2C%20speed,showrooms%20have%20speed%20limiters%20fitted.

Personally I wouldn't object to being yelled at by my car. A few years ago, I incurred 4(!) speeding fines in a week from the most notorious camera in the Netherlands - it's the single most lucrative camera in the country. Being told by my car to slow down would have saved me a lot of money.

After my first SAC, (and I was never Nigel fucking Mansell to start with) my limiter is never disengaged.

If you ever fell in need of being told to go fuck yourself, then when people ask how not to get caught speeding, tell them not to break the speed limit. It's quite revealing.

I do actually agree with that, but in a situation where the limit changes several times within a short stretch of road, it would actually be helpful to be yelled at.

I've never had a speeding fine in the UK - there's a reason why this particular camera in the Netherlands is notorious.

I admit, I laughed aloud at this. Where is Rees-Mogg to protest about EU regs voluntarily being applied? This is not in the spirit of Brexit.

My dad once appealed a speeding ticket in Den Haag, it took a while but he did win

Rees-Mogg would never get a speeding fine - that would be his driver's job

I wonder what this Torygraph "journalist" thinks might have caused this issue...

it's a mystery

When I am using my phone as 'satnav' I would welcome a reminder of the speed limits here in France because many villages are long (linear) and it can vary from 80 OR 90 (depending on department!) on the open road to 70,50 or 30 K/h all within a few hundred metres, then back up or down again for the next section.
I actually like the speed indicator signs (SPID ) in many villages which politely tell you what speed you are travelling at. Forcing cars to stop at seemingly pointless junctions is another traffic calming measye and the intelligent traffic lights that automatically turn to red if you are travelling faster than the limit is also quite subtle.
Taxis in Singapore had little 'chimes' that rang if the driver exceeded the limits 40 years ago.

intelligent traffic lights that automatically turn to red if you are travelling faster than the limit is also quite subtle.

Many years ago, you could get from Hounslow to the Chiswick roundabout without stopping once if you held a solid 35 (speed limit was 40).. Then they re-engineered the lights to create a stop every single time "because we can't encourage driving".

No, but you can triple the amount of emissions can't you ?

I've never subscribed to greenybollocks, and that's one reason why.

I've never subscribed to greenybollocks, and that's one reason why.
Well a significant problem is allowing politicians to DICTATE rules without thinking the whole plan trough. Having a society that is used to throwing away items that are 'unfashionable' or designed badly so they can't be repaired is literally costing the planet and WOMEN are as much if not the significant part of the problem: See the mountains of garments produced cheaply that are 'unfit' because they are not deemed fashionable. A concept that is difficult to allow if you are cold, or even in hot climates for sun protection.

@pointythings And of course the Leave/Remain polls in the immediate runup to the referendum were within the margin of error in any case, a fact that Leavers don't like to acknowledge.

If you ignore all polls in which the difference was 4% or less, the forecast was even more in favour of remain. This has been proved on another thread, one positive of Brexit.

So, polls cannot be relied upon as history has proved.

@DuncinToffee @HannibalHeyes

I thought the Eurotunnel travelled in two directions? That so, any increase in costs, delays, etc., will affect everyone who uses the tunnel regardless of whether they started their journey in the EU or the UK.

Eurotunnel is making record profits. Link is:

Channel Tunnel generates record profits despite fall in lorry traffic (brusselstimes.com)

Eurotunnel plans to double both the number of passengers and destinations over the next ten years. Link is:

UK-EU rail connection: Eurotunnel aims to double passengers and destinations in ten years (brusselstimes.com)

A tunnel travels in both directions? Well I never!

Oh Captain Obvious, how you do make me laugh...

'If you ignore some of the data, i.e. the bits that don't suit my narrative, then the data looks different '.

No excrement, Mr Holmes!

Interesting report in the Brussels Times and my main thought is 'Why the hell anyone would want to go to London?'
London is an embarasement (yes I had to work there sometimes under protest) and with the 'easy connectionns to decent places in the UK' being non existant what is the point? I still haven't heard any apologies from Brexiteers for messing up so many lives.

London is still the best city in the world, despite this government's best efforts to destroy the whole country. London has resisted.

Anyway, a reminder of how we got to this shit place;

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1022753888359903233.html

London is the best city in the world?

I really dislike this 9 year old talk about being world beating, the best, my dad can beat up your dad bollocks.

@Peregrina

Speed limiters are a safety issue as, if you read the article provided, it's estimated that a third of road fatalities are due to excessive speed. Nothing to do with being in or our of the EU.

For information

Ursula Von der Leyen's humiliating climbdown exposes the EU's plan to copy Britain on migration

Link is:

Ursula Von der Leyen's humiliating climbdown exposes the EU's plan to copy Britain on migration - analysis by Millie Cooke (msn.com)

I don't think 'for information' and 'gb news' belong in the same sentence

Pasted as an "msn" link so as to coyly disguise the source. To be fair, it worked.

I thought it was the Express.

@pointythings If you ignore some of the data, i.e. the bits that don't suit my narrative, then the data looks different

As demonstrated be remain supporters since 2016 have ignored the following historical facts:

More people voted to leave the EU than remain in 2016.

The option to reverse the vote to leave the EU was presented in 2019 general election, but was not taken.

Unemployement in the UK is lower than before 2016, even though the UK treasury said that a vote to leave would result in a loss of jobs between 500,000 and 800,000 even whilst the UK remained in the EU during the two year negotiationg period as specified in Article 50.

Poverty in Germany is higher than that in the UK.

Unemployment in France amongst young people is higher than in the UK and earnings are lower.

The combined population of the EU and the US is eight times greater than that of Russia, but despite more than two years of EU and US sanctions against Russia, the war has entered its third year.

UK is more desirable than the EU as evidenced by the number of people who will risk their lives by crossing the channel to leave the EU to enter the UK. If living in the EU is better than living in the UK, why is not the other way round?

@IItisymoi I still haven't heard any apologies from Brexiteers for messing up so many lives.

Can you quote a law which states the minority opinion shall prevail over the majority opinion?

Remember that democracy is preserved when the majority opinion is observed. This provides protection to those who have less effective weapons than others, but maybe be larger in number. Examples in history include:

1982 - UK won the Falklands war against larger numbers
1940 - UK won the Battle of Britain against larger numbers
1878 - 150 British soldiers, mostly Welsh, defended Rorkes Drift against 4,000 Zulus as they had Lee Enfield rifles that could kill at over 100yards. Eleven Victoria Crosses were awarded.
1415 - England won at Agincourt even though hugely outnumbered as the English long bow could penetrate armour at 220 yards.

Congratulations, @GlobeTrotter2000 . That wins the 'least relevant load of rehashed and misrepresented tosh' of the month award.