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Brexit mega thread part 13: All eyes on Ireland

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SerendipityJane · 23/03/2024 09:11

With the Windsor framework up & running, and the DUP having a "you could set your calendar by it" hissy fit, but Irish unification refusing to keep it's head down, what next in the long running sage of UK vs. the real world ?

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HannibalHeyes · 17/04/2024 16:49

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DuncinToffee · 18/04/2024 09:04

FT
Brexit has ‘exacerbated’ UK drug shortages

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Jason118 · 18/04/2024 11:22

I'm beginning to think that Brexit wasn't such a good idea after all Grin

GlobeTrotter2000 · 18/04/2024 11:36

@DuncinToffee

  • In July 2023, there were 38,269 deaths registered in England, 977 deaths (2.5%) below the July five-year average (2017 to 2019, 2021 and 2022); in Wales, there were 2,674 deaths registered, 96 deaths (3.7%) above the five-year average.

So, the mortality rate in England has declined since 2016.

DuncinToffee · 18/04/2024 11:42

Thanks for that piece of information @GlobeTrotter2000

pointythings · 18/04/2024 11:52

I don't think the 5 year average for a period that includes the pandemic years is representative data.

SerendipityJane · 18/04/2024 11:54

So, the mortality rate in England has declined since 2016.

As has the morality rate too.

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borntobequiet · 18/04/2024 12:14

SerendipityJane · 18/04/2024 11:54

So, the mortality rate in England has declined since 2016.

As has the morality rate too.

I’d love to see the “excess morality” numbers.

I bet they’d be negative, seriously skewed by the antics of the not-so-great and the not-so-good.

HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 12:55

It keeps getting better...

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HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 13:03

Drug shortages "now normal"...

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SerendipityJane · 18/04/2024 13:11

Quite a few FB groups I follow for various chronic illnesses have been noting problems getting medicines for a while.

Of course when the Mail and Express publish shock stories about people too ill to work, that will be quietly forgotten.

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DuncinToffee · 18/04/2024 13:22

We're aiming to rebuild bridges between young Europeans on both sides of the Channel.

Today, we've proposed to @EUCouncil to open negotiations with the UK on youth mobility.

This would make it easier for young citizens to study, work and live in the UK and EU

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_2105.

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_24_2105

GlobeTrotter2000 · 18/04/2024 13:30

@HannibalHeyes

The link you provided was for 2020 to 2022 when COVID was at its peak.

On a World basis, UK ranks 30. One above Germany, ranked at 31 which is midway for the EU.

The US comes in at 47 even though it is the most wealthy country in the World. So, there does not seem to be a correlation between wealth and life expectancy amongst the developed countries.

@SerendipityJane

I have taken 3 different medications since 2000 and never experienced any shortages. Nor have any of my; relatives, friends or colleagues mentioned they have difficulty with prescribed drugs.

Which drugs are listed on FB as being in short supply?

HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 13:32

Great anecdata there Globe...

DrBlackbird · 18/04/2024 13:46

I’m inclined to believe reports across several credible news sources including the FT rather than a single ‘not me guv’ anecdote. Colour me crazy.

Big thanks to the super hero squirrel photo @HannibalHeyes made my day.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 18/04/2024 14:41

@DrBlackbird

The Guardian has produced a similar article. It includes:

Global manufacturing problems linked to Covid, inflation, the war in Ukraine and global instability have helped cause the UK’s unprecedented inability to ensure patients can access drugs.

Was COVID, inflation, war in the Ukraine and global instability caused by Brexit? I would say not.

“A clear picture emerged of underlying fragilities at a global and UK level, not fundamentally rooted in Brexit but exacerbated by it in some specific ways,

Was global fagility caused by Brexit? I would say not.

The fact that the fall in sterling’s value after the Brexit vote in 2016 coincided with drugs being in much shorter supply globally due to pharmaceutical firms experiencing shortages of ingredients

Was the global shortage of ingredients for drugs caused by Brexit? I would say not.

The Pound to Euro today is 1 to 1.17. The same as it was in 2013.

The EU is also facing difficulties:

European healthcare providers and their patients have been grappling with medicine shortages for years, an issue that has slowly been morphing into a chronic ailment before reaching a fever pitch last winter

the EU’s drug regulator, the European Medicines Agency (EMA), launched an official investigation into what was causing shortages, as it confirmed that 25 out of 27 EU countries lacked critical drugs like amoxicillin and other vital antibiotics, as well as medications crucial for patients fighting cancer, diabetes, heart disease and other serious illnesses.

The link is

Bitter pills: Medicine shortages in the EU (theparliamentmagazine.eu)

Bitter pills: Europe struggles with medicine shortages

A fragile supply chain and increased demand are causing a shortfall in the EU’s stock of critical medicines. Gabriela Galindo looks at how policyma...

https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/bitter-pills-medicine-shortages-in-europe#:~:text=In%20its%202023%20survey%2C%20the,began%20polling%20members%20in%202013.

HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 14:47

@GrahameLucas

The British Chamber of Commerce in Germany has published its 2024 report entitled ‘German British Business Outlook’. The report points to mounting problems for German-British trade resulting from increasing amounts of #Brexit induced red tape, rising transport costs and customs duties. UK business activity in the EU continues to decline dramatically. Since the 2016 Brexit referendum the volume of bilateral trade has slumped from 38 to 22 million tons. The true extent of the fall has been disguised by high inflation.
The outlook is uncertain. In 2024 new regulations will come into force, regulations not immediately implemented when Brexit occurred in 2020. More than a third of companies involved in bilateral trade fear a negative impact on their existing business dealings.

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DuncinToffee · 18/04/2024 14:51

Is Globe saying that the UK is doing better in shortages than the EU? We are winning the shortages race?

HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 16:30

James O'Brien has an opinion on this;

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1780929159822246308

https://twitter.com/LBC/status/1780929159822246308

DuncinToffee · 18/04/2024 21:52

https://x.com/LizWebsterSBF/status/1781040972907831767

UK will not ‘turn on’ post-Brexit checks of EU goods for fear of border delays

Industry groups say lack of clarity leaves businesses unsure how to manage new rules due to start on April 30

“It is beyond frustrating that repeated warnings about the readiness of crucial infrastructure have been ignored and now in less than two weeks businesses will have to try to navigate this clearly broken system,” said Phil Pluck, head of the Cold Chain Federation, a lobby group for the perishable goods trade.

“The government must postpone full implementation until October and start working with the food logistics industry for a system that genuinely works and mitigates even more confusion, disruption, and costs,” he added.

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HannibalHeyes · 18/04/2024 22:07

Basically, we're in this sh!tstorm, and we still haven't properly Brexited.

It's all so good...

IItisymoi · 19/04/2024 09:32

Those lazy Brexiteers (Leave voters) are STILL sitting on their hands and not grasping the fantastic trade deals and opportunities that Boris and Truss 'won' for the UK so 8 years on they are simply waiting for the excrement to REALLY hit the ventilator when China and India (among others) start proceedings against the UK for FAILING to comply with WTO trade rules. Why hasn't Globetrotter been back and explained to us how the UK might be exempt from WORLD tradinbg regulations (which the UK isn't).

SerendipityJane · 19/04/2024 10:13

There is starting to be a flicker of recognition of where we are, I notice. The thread about potential free movement for the young for example. With the realisation that could create an exodus of prime talent.

I wonder if we will see North Korea level emigration restrictions ?

I am old enough to remember the brain drain of the 60s and 70s. 2 families in my class (not year, not school. Class) emigrated in the early 70s. In those days US and Australia were the main ones. Maybe not so hot now. But then Europe has changed beyond all recognition since then. I can easily see a 20 something settling down in Europe being able to revisit the UK when it's open.

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