Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

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It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

@Peregrina but that wasn't what was promised to the Leave voters. Easiest deals in history, remember?

Liam Fox I remember, but who cares? As per the links provided above, trade with EU has not been impacted.

@jgw1 understood, the big benefit of Brexit is something that was possible without Brexit. Impressive

That something is possible does not make it certain or compulsory to happen. The post. Also remember COVID (which proved how much work can be done from home) did not exist before Brexit

For me personally, it was brilliant. In my job I had to travel to Brussels approximately twice a month, now it is twice a year, massive win.

sums it up well. Before Brexit they had to travel to Brussels twice per month. Post Brexit they do not have to travel to Brussels twice per month.

@JGW1 It seems to me that analysis of recent polling such as this show quite clearly what people think of those who encouraged them to vote for Brexit and then implemented it.

19,351 persons polled represents Approx. 0.04% of registered voters. However, I would be surprised if the Convservatives win the next GE

Is a swing to Labour related to Brexit or an objection to Conservatives? I would say the later on the basis that Starmer has ruled out a rejoin campaign for the next GE.

Take a look at

Brexit poll 2023 | Statista

If accurate, as of Dec 2023 Brexit is third from bottom of peoples' concerns at 14%

The big three are: Economy 55%, Health 44% and Immigration 40%

As per the links provided above, trade with EU has not been impacted.

Apart from all those firms which have gone out of business. I suppose you might argue that they would have gone out of business anyway. But why put the boot in to make sure they go out of business?

Are you saying that one of the benefits of Brexit is that Brexiteers like Fox were shown to be the liars that they are?

One Brexit benefit is that it has made all of your big three concerns worse.

So, in that link, exports (I.e. the money we make) is down, and imports (I.e. the money we spend is up since Brexit.

And you are quoting this as an example of why Brexit was good? I take it that you don't run a business as if you bought more than you sold, you would be out of business fairly rapidly.

As per the links provided above, trade with EU has not been impacted.

Not that I'd give the slightest credence to anything produced by the likes of the IEA, but given that trade would have increased in the years beyond 2016 in any normal circumstances, as it has with all other countries (OK, most other countries for the pedant), then it's obvious that it has been impacted.

Basic logic is your friend...

Are the IEA the same people who made a fortune encouraging Truss and Kwarteng into crashing the economy and then bet on it?

They're all based in Tufton Street (as, I suspect, is someone on here)...

I wonder if they also bet on Brexit, and who pays for them.

As with the IEA, the Taxpayer's Alliance, et al, they are all, shall we say, opaquely funded. Funny how the "Taxpayer's" Alliance have yet to comment on Michelle Mone...

Indeed, whenever the IEA have a puppet being interviewed on the BBC, they are never asked who funds them, nor are they introduced as being an organisation with no clarity on their background. I imagine that that comes right from Gibb...

@HappiestSleeping So, in that link, exports (I.e. the money we make) is down, and imports (I.e. the money we spend is up since Brexit.

UK trades with others too remember and has surpluses with US and non-EU countries.

Think how great it could have been with all those extra exports to the EU on top of those.

Maybe we wouldn't have such a bad cost of living crisis...

@jgw1 Are you saying that one of the benefits of Brexit is that Brexiteers like Fox were shown to be the liars that they are?

No.

That's a shame, that would actually almost be one...

What was your purpose then @GlobeTrotter2000 in pointing out that Fox was lying?

@jgw1

My reply to Perigrina was:

Liam Fox I remember, but who cares? As per the links provided above, trade with EU has not been impacted

No reference made to lying or otherwise. However, since when have politicians not lied when it suits their agenda?

Boris Johnson was taken to court over the 350 million per week to the EU, but the case was dismissed by the judges. Some think that Tony Blair should have been held to account for his decision regarding Iraq.

The list of examples of politicians lying for their own agenda could go on forever.

So the benefit of Brexit is that is has exposed some of those liars?

It is a win of kinds I guess.

The UK does indeed trade outside of the EU. In 2022, there was a trade deficit with the EU of £92bn, and a trade surplus outside the EU of £5bn compared to pre-Brexit years.

In my book, that is a net loss of £87bn.

It's easier to get a job or move jobs now.

Not in the UK it isn't.

What makes you think that?

@HappiestSleeping In my book, that is a net loss of £87bn

A quick Google reveals the following:

UK overall cumulative deficit is £25 billion. The last time UK had a surplus was in 2020 as imports were reduced.

US has the largest deficit in the world of $65 billion.

There seems to be differing opinions as to which is better, a surplus or a deficit.