Brexit mega thread part 11: is fucktastrophy a word?

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Part 11 of this mega thread

Couldn't see a new one?

Hope you don't mind a newbie starting it!

Of course they couldn't do a deal. Rish! just kept on saying the UK didn't need to pay "because" and that was that.

I look forward to the Express reporting on it.

That's what I figured. He wants something for nothing.

the issue here is that they are saying that this min 45% from UK or EU is a problem

"From next year, 45% of the value of an electric car should originate in the UK or EU to qualify for trade without tariffs. This will rise to 65% in 2027."

Note that it says "the UK or the EU" if they aren't getting over half the components for each vehicle from one of those two sources where are they coming from and how is that cheaper.

Govt backs down on pay rises...

Autumn GE????

Interesting thought. I'd say unlikely with inflation so high and people's mortgages going through the roof, unless it comes down very rapidly in Aug and Sept, maybe?

Although it would probably be a good idea to lose a general election at the moment.

Quite

For the hard of thinking at the back, here's a good example of exactly how badly we've fucked up with Brexshit.

Rayner gets it. But people like Louise will refuse to until it kills them...

supposed to be a link there...

@HannibalHeyes i was about to post that same story.

Just to be absolutely crystal clear about the ridiculousness of leaving the EU, I’m adding two paragraphs that spells out the implications. It’s taken so long for the true implications of leaving the single market to become evident and our shit government dragged its heels mismanaging everything Brexit related. What’s particularly infuriating is that people i know who voted leave would now just shrug because of disinterest in discussion. They didn’t know and didn’t care but voted to leave regardless.

On 31 October, after four postponements to get infrastructure in place, the UK will finally introduce checks on fresh and chilled food imports. The EU has already introduced its checks, which come with a vast amount of paperwork and significant costs. The impact on the export of fruit from the UK to the EU has been dramatic, reducing the value from £248.5m in 2021 to £113.8m by 2023, a drop of more than 50%.

Now it’s going to work the other way. EU producers of meat products wishing to export to the UK will have to employ a vet to certify their goods, which will cost up to €700 a time. All sectors will have to employ agents for data entry compliance which could add another €200. They will have to train themselves on the paperwork. Then, come January, there’s the border inspection charge of up to £43 for each consignment regardless of whether it’s physically inspected or not. Faced by all of this, thousands of small producers from across Europe who have kept this country supplied with a fabulously diverse range of quality products will simply decide it’s not worth the trouble. They’ll sell elsewhere. The quality of our lives will be diminished.

The quality of our lives will be diminished.

"It's not enough to win - others must lose". Gore Vidal. The man who predicted the fall of Thatcher and Brexit.

More sunlit uplands

"Speaking to customers and suppliers from the EU, they have reached a point where the don’t really want to supply the UK any more.”

Brexshit shortages coming soon to a supermarket near you...

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-daily-mail-leave-eu-advertising-b2375561.html

George Eustice (the guy who negotiated the UK’s post-Brexit trade deal with Australia and then called it ‘not actually very good’), admitted this week that the UK needs more EU workers, reports The Independent.
Eustice told The Observer that: “We are allowing in people who are deemed skilled such as lawyers, insolvency practitioners, museum officers, even disc jockeys, when we have no shortages whatsoever in those sectors. But we are not allowing people to come here to work in sectors like the food industry, even though there are acute labour shortages in these sectors, and that is contributing to inflation.
“So that is the big problem. My proposal is that we commence bilateral negotiations with EU member states, starting with countries like Bulgaria, Romania and the Baltic states, and widen it to the whole of the EU eventually, to establish a reciprocal youth-mobility visa scheme.”
According to The Independent, Eustice said “the agreements should see EU citizens under 35 allowed to live and work in the UK for two years, while UK citizens would be allowed to do the same in EU member states with which deals were struck.”

Note the third paragraph in particular about allowing in more workers from E Europe and the Baltic states. At least two leavers I know voted for Brexit on the basis that they hadn't agreed with the expansion to include the E Europe states. I wonder what they would think now. One opined that "we don't have much in common with them." I wonder how much in common he feels we have in common with countries in the trans- Pacific partnership - e.g. Mexico, Vietnam?
I suspect he was just thinking of the White Commonwealth Countries and the USA there.

What a fucking mess
Why isn't everyone pointing out that absolute parody of what Eustace is saying?

Note the third paragraph in particular

Oh I did. But in a different way.

It highlights that as a 3rd country, the UK has no overarching relationship with "the EU" and is going to have to negotiate a lot of deals with individual countries inside the EU.

This is, of course, because they are sovereign states and so get to decide who they deal with.

And the real reason Eusless is picking the smaller, less well off countries is because it fits the buccaneering Brexit fantasy of the golden days of Empire when exploiting poorer countries was seen as our God given right.

My proposal is that we commence bilateral negotiations with EU member states

Apart from being an almost complete u turn, I see we’re back to bilateral negotiations with EU member states.

Here’s an idea, while we are at it we could join some sort of customs union or a sort of single market too in exchange for movement of people. It might solve quite a few of our current issues too - not having enough vets for phytosanitary checks, that tricky border in the Irish Sea.

What a fucking mess
Indeed
Then of course, New Zealand, literally half way across the world, has joined the EU Horizon programme, without as far as I am aware of having any world class universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Imperial. The UK is still out because Sunak is dithering.

Difference between the UK and NZ is NZ paid the entrance fee.

The great thing about bilateral negotiations with several countries inside a larger single market is you can't play one off against another. When I say "great thing" I do mean from the perspective of the countries inside the said single market. It's every shade of disadvantage if you are the lone country in this scenario.

Brexit supporting newspaper concludes Brexit is a disaster:

"Daily Mail chief says Brexit was bad for advertising."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-daily-mail-leave-eu-advertising-b2375561.html

Why does Eustice think EU citizens will be open to his plan? He wants us to agree to age discrimination for our workers, pay increased visa fees, for just 2 years (then what, pay again or fuck off back to where you came from?), and we have to subsidise the NHS while paying to use it ourselves. Will we be allowed to bring our families?

What do you think ?

You would have thought the UK would have learned these past 3 years that people resident in the EU have no interest whatsoever to come to the UK for anything other than a holiday to stock up on whatever they can't get at home. And with right wing politics becoming popular there too, that's the UKs last great hope for something really substantial as an export market.

Meanwhile, slice it whichever way you want, India wants visa-free or unlimited visas for it's citizens families and all. And they are very disappointed that having helped install such an supremely corrupt government, with one of their own at the top (that's Mrs. Sunak of course) they aren't being handed it on a plate.

A back of the Farages passport calculation today suggested that as usual Sainsburys is only rocking 90-95% stock. Meaning this past year they have had around 10% of shelf space doing fuck all. Or, if your busines-fu is working, they are at least 10% inefficient. Or, to put it another way, they could lose 10% of their shop floor. (Employees included)

With the oncoming reduction in EU-sourced items, I personally can't see the great shopping public buying enough of the stuff they end up filling the gaps with to make it worthwhile.

If I were overly cynical, I would say there is a lot of political capital for the Tories in prolonging the war in Ukraine. Because when that's done, they'll have run out of excuses.

It’s just bloody insane isn’t it… 🙄