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Brexit mega thread part 10 : what's the (s)tory? Incompetence, tax evasion, dodgy loans and economic free fall...nothing to see here...check out those sunlit uploands!

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Chevyimpala67 · 31/01/2023 12:52

Part 10 of our long running thread.
I'm still putting my money on a spring GE.
The tory slash and burn of the UK is right on track.
Bon chance my friends!

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SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 12:11

DuncinToffee · 11/03/2023 12:03

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-eu-immigration-builders-construction-b2297207.html

Brexit U-turn: Builders to get special immigration status to tackle construction industry crisis

Sort of a backwards "if you build it, they will come" ?

Can't see many EU nationals taking this up.

HannibalHeyes · 11/03/2023 12:15

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
Getting some terrific texts from inside the great broadcasting complex … this one re ‘Sir’ Robbie Gibb —— “the guy is a total fucker … intervened all over the bbc for brexit whilst he was there and then bullied them from no 10 after he left.” Why is Gibb not being doorstepped?

Fladdermus · 11/03/2023 12:27

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 12:11

Sort of a backwards "if you build it, they will come" ?

Can't see many EU nationals taking this up.

It'll be like the lorry drivers all over again. Bunting out to celebrate this fantastically, glorious plan to bring in everyone needed, for as long as they needed, but obviously they need to fuck off once we're done needing them. And the workers will laugh and take up jobs in countries that truly welcome them instead.

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 12:30

It'll be like the lorry drivers all over again.

You mean 6 will actually take the offer up ?

Fladdermus · 11/03/2023 12:44

SerendipityJane · 11/03/2023 12:30

It'll be like the lorry drivers all over again.

You mean 6 will actually take the offer up ?

Yes and no. They're builders. 6 will accept, only 1 will turn up, a week late, stay for an hour and then disappear again.

DrBlackbird · 12/03/2023 10:16

FrankieStein403 · 11/03/2023 11:26

Musing - ironic if after all the incompetence over 13 years it's the Tories disruption to football coverage that is the first domino in the fall of the government.

If not I might hope that the overtly tory establishment in the BBC is now toast and the door opens to more critical, ie balanced, coverage

It’s incredible with all those highly intelligent, privately educated civil servants and SPADs (the best of the best like McKinsey consultants are the crème de la crème of the consulting world), that they really thought that they were on to a winner with the Illegal Immigrant bill?

That they could not anticipate how others might react to it? My bet is that the £200m was softening up to try to get France to accept the immigrants back. They flounder around with half baked ideas and yet are meant to be the party we trust with our economy? Blow it on ridiculous ill thought out plans more to the point.

…alleged Brexit supporters either do not grasp or grasp. I’m going for ‘do not grasp’. Eg, Tory politicians manufacturing outrage at Lineker.

Peregrina · 12/03/2023 20:50

Tory politicians manufacturing outrage at Lineker.

As far as I know, he didn't express this opinion when in front of a BBC camera but on Twitter. If the Tories hadn't been spoiling for a fight about it, the vast majority of people wouldn't even know he'd said it, because they don't follow twitter.

HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 09:16

Ah, more winning...

China’s BYD blames Brexit as it rules out UK for first electric car plant in Europe

Chevyimpala67 · 13/03/2023 12:27

HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 09:16

Ah, more winning...

China’s BYD blames Brexit as it rules out UK for first electric car plant in Europe

Yep.
The wins keep on coming

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SerendipityJane · 13/03/2023 19:15

HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 09:16

Ah, more winning...

China’s BYD blames Brexit as it rules out UK for first electric car plant in Europe

The whole article is much more interesting.

HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 20:51

And in other "we can have higher standards once we're free of the EU yoke" news...

Brexit mega thread part 10 : what's the (s)tory? Incompetence, tax evasion, dodgy loans and economic free fall...nothing to see here...check out those sunlit uploands!
HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 22:01

Oh, this is a good rant!

RafaistheKingofClay · 14/03/2023 06:12

When Theresa ‘go home vans’ May is the moral compass that abstains from voting on you illegal Migration Bill you are definitely on the wrong side.

My MP showed no such moral compass so he may find himself with a strongly worded email at some point this week.

SerendipityJane · 14/03/2023 07:43

HannibalHeyes · 13/03/2023 20:51

And in other "we can have higher standards once we're free of the EU yoke" news...

So products made from that will either be banned, or have extra tariffs on import to the EU. And UK firms that have higher standards won't be able to demonstrate it, because UK law won't provide for it.

Way to go.

AdaHopper · 14/03/2023 18:25

No more weddings in Downton Abbey location apparently... because of Brexit:

www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2023/03/14/geen-grote-trouwpartijen-meer-in-downton-abbey-kasteel-we-vi/

Article in Dutch... anything in UK papers ?

I have found a mention on CNN and the Irish Times but nothing on a UK site...

CNN: amp.cnn.com/cnn/travel/article/downton-abbey-castle-weddings-intl-scli-gbr/index.html

TheABC · 14/03/2023 23:11

It's surreal that the only people that can call a General Election are the very people who benefit from not having one. We need better failsafes for Parliament.

SerendipityJane · 15/03/2023 08:18

TheABC · 14/03/2023 23:11

It's surreal that the only people that can call a General Election are the very people who benefit from not having one. We need better failsafes for Parliament.

Any other country where the parliament is effectively allowed to mark it's own homework would be called a banana republic.

It's useful to have a working knowledge of the US constitution. Not just because it keeps dim people out of the conversation (including Americans). But mainly because it was shaped in response to everything that was bad about the British constitution circa 1776. It's not perfect. But it takes a long time to subvert. And since political trends tend to be cyclic, having the judiciary (for example) march to a different phase to a congress which is itself working on a different timescale means that any concerted effort needs decades to plan. Of course ultimately if society itself does jump the shark then the proceeding decades will eventually deliver the opportunity for change. Bearing in mind a lot of the inertia built into the constitution was explicitly intended to enable and maintain the peculiar institution of the South.

Ideally the UK could do with proportional representation and a written constitution as starters.

Peregrina · 15/03/2023 08:59

No more weddings in Downton Abbey location apparently... because of Brexit:

I haven't seen anything in the British papers, but can guarantee two things. Covid is mentioned which is a factor, so this will take 100% of the blame. The exports of gin to the USA will be bigged up. How many bottles of gin will they need to sell to make up for the lost hospitality business? An awful lot I would think. Probably more gin than is available in the UK.

SerendipityJane · 15/03/2023 09:58

No more weddings in Downton Abbey location apparently... because of Brexit:

The irony of a location entwined with a rose tinted view of the Days of Empire being fucked over by a bunch of twats infected with a rose tinted view of Days of Empire is lost in this day and age.

HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2023 10:10

Wow! The Times, of all places, doing an excellent article - The Brexit delusion: I’ll talk about it (so you don’t have to)

SerendipityJane · 15/03/2023 10:43

HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2023 10:10

Wow! The Times, of all places, doing an excellent article - The Brexit delusion: I’ll talk about it (so you don’t have to)

sadly, the response is: "So ?".

No one really believes in Brexit anymore. Not that the people that persuaded other people to believe in it ever did. It's just now become baked into the UK political landscape. Much as the "War on Drugs" has been. No amount of sensible and reasoned debate will ever be allowed to challenge the supposed orthodox view that it's "the only way".

And since the War on Drugs clearly benefits drug dealers the most, we need to look who "Brexit" benefits the most that it can't be challenged. And this is where Labour are going to lose the debate if they aren't careful.

TheABC · 15/03/2023 10:54

Ideally the UK could do with proportional representation and a written constitution as starters.

Gods, yes. However, short of a revolution and kidnapping King Charles, I'm not sure how that will happen.

SerendipityJane · 15/03/2023 11:25

TheABC · 15/03/2023 10:54

Ideally the UK could do with proportional representation and a written constitution as starters.

Gods, yes. However, short of a revolution and kidnapping King Charles, I'm not sure how that will happen.

I wonder about nominative determination, and lightning striking twice. As well as destiny skipping a generation ...

Kendodd · 15/03/2023 13:05

HannibalHeyes · 15/03/2023 10:10

Wow! The Times, of all places, doing an excellent article - The Brexit delusion: I’ll talk about it (so you don’t have to)

Only read the headline (paywall) but that article talks about a 'bonfire of bureaucracy'. That would be H&S workers rights and environment protections then?

SerendipityJane · 15/03/2023 13:43

Kendodd · 15/03/2023 13:05

Only read the headline (paywall) but that article talks about a 'bonfire of bureaucracy'. That would be H&S workers rights and environment protections then?

That's what was promised ...

However, given the total chaos the Retained EU laws bill would cause if enacted (first problem is "what is a law" ? The UK oft-trumpeted soft constitution doesn't actually have a definition) it's looking less likely.

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