To ask what has improved since leaving the EU?

[Butterflyfluff]

I’ve just had to pay customs charges on something I ordered from Germany - whilst we were in the EU there were no such charges.

Which got me thinking.

Leaving hasn’t been the disaster some predicted but, I can’t think of anything that affects me that’s actually improved since leaving.

What have other people’s upsides been? (And just being able to say we’re not in the EU anymore doesn’t count! 😂)

So you are saying we should have stayed in the EU to get all those foreigners to do the shitty low paid jobs that Brits don’t want to do?

No, I’m saying that those jobs aren’t being done now because British people won’t do them so leaving the EU means we can’t fill the roles.

Not all jobs are glamorous - it’s a question of whether doing these roles is better than the alternative

@Butterflyfluff

So you are saying we should have stayed in the EU to get all those foreigners to do the shitty low paid jobs that Brits don’t want to do?

No, I’m saying that those jobs aren’t being done now because British people won’t do them so leaving the EU means we can’t fill the roles.

Not all jobs are glamorous - it’s a question of whether doing these roles is better than the alternative

But if no one wants to do the jobs then we will have to think of alternatives.

The problem with having unlimited immigration from the EU was that we didn't have to adapt.

@mynameiscalypso

I quite like getting stamps in my passport. I would still prefer free movement in the EU though.

I'm looking at my proposed trips for the next 2 years and struggling to understand the 90/180 rules, even when i use the calculator provided I don't get it.

I'm far from thick (multiple degrees, albeit not mathematically inclined) so if I'm struggling, a I think a lot of people are going to.

I think the chances of the UK breaking up have improved (or not improved, depending on what side of the nationalist fence you’re on). JRM’s ‘lightweight’ comment showed exactly what the English Tories think of their colleagues and whilst I am very definitely not in favour of separation and loathe the SNP/Green govt we have with a passion the idea that we might be able to become part of the EU again and lose the extremists at Westminster is quite attractive.

Wages. Even us remainer as have to acknowledge the simple fact that wages have gone up because of labour shortage. If you don’t, then you are not capable of reasoned debate.

It's like in Japan they don't have immigration well virtually none and they are adapting.

@sst1234

Wages. Even us remainer as have to acknowledge the simple fact that wages have gone up because of labour shortage. If you don’t, then you are not capable of reasoned debate.

Haven't wages gone up because of inflation? And gone up less than inflation?

@SirChenjins

I think the chances of the UK breaking up have improved (or not improved, depending on what side of the nationalist fence you’re on). JRM’s ‘lightweight’ comment showed exactly what the English Tories think of their colleagues and whilst I am very definitely not in favour of separation and loathe the SNP/Green govt we have with a passion the idea that we might be able to become part of the EU again and lose the extremists at Westminster is quite attractive.

Nicola sturgeon can't even decide which currency they would have if Scotland left and also she was saying that the rest of the UK would have to carry on paying Scottish pensions which is not correct.

@Quackpot

Our vaccine rollout would have been hindered had we still been in the eu

Here we go again...

@FatFredsFriedEgg

No there is definitely a Brexit effect. Ask any corporate Labour or HR professional and the Brexit effect in wage inflation is officially factored in.

@SirChenjins

I think the chances of the UK breaking up have improved (or not improved, depending on what side of the nationalist fence you’re on). JRM’s ‘lightweight’ comment showed exactly what the English Tories think of their colleagues and whilst I am very definitely not in favour of separation and loathe the SNP/Green govt we have with a passion the idea that we might be able to become part of the EU again and lose the extremists at Westminster is quite attractive.

Also when women in Scotland wake up to how misogynistic the SNP and greens are I very much doubt they will carry on voting for them.

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

It's like in Japan they don't have immigration well virtually none and they are adapting.

Immigration to Japan has been increasing steadily for years. It's way higher now than it ever used to be.

[quote sst1234]@FatFredsFriedEgg

No there is definitely a Brexit effect. Ask any corporate Labour or HR professional and the Brexit effect in wage inflation is officially factored in.[/quote]
Prices higher because of Brexit.

Wages need to go up because prices are higher.

Prices go even higher because wages are going up because prices are higher.

there is definitely a Brexit effect. There is isn't there?

Yes Japan has been increasing its immigration but it certainly is not unlimited.
But they are adapting to not having labour shortages which is what we will have to do

*to having labour shortages

I'm in Ireland. Sadly I've had to stop ordering many things I used to order from the UK as the extra cost is too much now.
Also, I havn't been able to order my veg and flower seeds this year from a small English company I adore

ILoveAllRainbowsx the alternative to the current care crisis is increases wages. But to increase wages means increase public spending, which means increase taxes.

@Woahthehorsey

ILoveAllRainbowsx the alternative to the current care crisis is increases wages. But to increase wages means increase public spending, which means increase taxes.

There are alternatives such as assisted dying. I don't want to go into a care home and be looked after by carers but at the moment I don't have any choice. Hopefully when we have a real care crisis people will realise the assisted dying is very important.

Most people are in favour of assisted dying.

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

Most people are in favour of assisted dying.

As an alternative to paying a fair wage to carers?

Are you a complete cunt or are you just being paid to post shite on here by the party of complete cunts?

@ILoveAllRainbowsx - that's not statistical evidence. Plenty of people from any back ground survive on minimum wage jobs without claiming benefits. I was one of them for a while. Lots of Europeans working in restaurants etc are students, or working second jobs or on year abroad - many don't require UC at all.

We can't spend billions of pounds caring for old people. Its not fair on the younger generation

@Theunamedcat

I'm cold my medication is struggling to arrive my cat food costs more

Advantages? Ummm

I'm assuming you mention you are cold because fuel prices have increased? You do know this has nothing to do with Brexit but has everything to do with a windless summer last year, increased demand from China, crude oil production drops in the Middle East, the tensions in the Ukraine and that it's a global issue?

Food prices have increased globally also - supply chain issues, production issues.

Ditto for medication.

Global phenomenons. Not solely a UK issue. Nowt to do with Brexit.

[quote Keladrythesaviour]@ILoveAllRainbowsx - that's not statistical evidence. Plenty of people from any back ground survive on minimum wage jobs without claiming benefits. I was one of them for a while. Lots of Europeans working in restaurants etc are students, or working second jobs or on year abroad - many don't require UC at all.[/quote]
But they were still taking up houses which is why we have a housing shortage and high rents.
If they had children of course they would be claiming universal credit and housing benefit

@ILoveAllRainbowsx

We can't spend billions of pounds caring for old people. Its not fair on the younger generation

Yeah, fuck 'em. Let them all die in their own shit so that people can afford to shop at Waitrose and drive Range Rovers.