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To ask what has improved since leaving the EU?

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Butterflyfluff · 20/02/2022 11:43

I’ve just had to pay customs charges on something I ordered from Germany - whilst we were in the EU there were no such charges.

Which got me thinking.

Leaving hasn’t been the disaster some predicted but, I can’t think of anything that affects me that’s actually improved since leaving.

What have other people’s upsides been? (And just being able to say we’re not in the EU anymore doesn’t count! 😂)

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PermanentTemporary · 20/02/2022 12:14

No, Rees-Mogg wasn't linking Brexit and an increase in Civil service jobs, why would he does do that? His willy waving posturing blames the rise on the pandemic. He's such a total twat. Likes a big untaxed income for him and his mates. Likes schmoozing MPs from the other side so they pull their punches with him (why?? Idiots.)

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Butterflyfluff · 20/02/2022 12:14

I've not really noticed anything different! Covid sort of over shadowed it really!

That’s very true - I think that’s why there hasn't been more talk of the lack of benefits from leaving - it’s been a side show to Covid.

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OnlyFoolsnMothers · 20/02/2022 12:16

It’s really not possible to discuss brexit as just brexit because we had a global pandemic at the point of leaving. The EU hasn’t been able to continue with its plans- which I think were a huge reason people voted leave. The world however is not how it was at the time of the vote.
Could we have sustained the food price rises- yes but now we have staggering energy cost issues- that’s not related but it’s all called brexit- it’s not.

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TheUsualShitshow · 20/02/2022 12:16

DH's chances of unemployment have definitely improved, as he deals with imports/exports to the EU, and now every day is a struggle to get goods here/there/everywhere on time.

Also, supermarket shopping is now much more of an adventure - last week there was basically no meat on the shelves, and this week there was only coconut oil loo roll which gave me thrush.

Lifeslooser · 20/02/2022 12:17

It’s more of an employees market at the moment which is a plus and there’s perks that come with that, sped up by covid too though.

The vaccination was a good one too, we got that quick and didn’t have to share, was selfish of us but people felt happy about it at the time.

I’m sure more positives will come, just like more negatives will too

daisychain01 · 20/02/2022 12:17

@PermanentTemporary

50000 more civil service jobs needed for administration?

In general most employers are DESPERATE for staff, and the Leave people certainly predicted more power for workers so I think that's a genuine Brexit change. However, it's actually quite difficult living in a country where there aren't enough people to work, and prices are rocketing. So even if wages increase inflation is going to harm all of us.

That's an interesting one about the thousands of civil servants needed for administration.

It makes me wonder how Rees-Mogg, the new Brexit Opportunities minister can reconcile cutting 45,000 civil service jobs over the next 3 years (something I heard on LBC radio yesterday).

Another example of lack of joined up thinking....? Or maybe an opportunity to set up a company in private sector to do all the admin and employ staff on minimum wage, zero hours to do it....

DrHildegardeLanstrom · 20/02/2022 12:18

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PermanentTemporary · 20/02/2022 12:20

Rees Mogg doesn't give a shit about his statements making sense. He cares about getting his name in the papers and making money for himself.

TheKeatingFive · 20/02/2022 12:21

The vaccination was a good one too, we got that quick and didn’t have to share, was selfish of us but people felt happy about it at the time.

That was nothing to do with leaving the EU, you could have done exactly the same had you remained.

BigGreen · 20/02/2022 12:21

Nothing, I haven't even managed to send a gift to a friend in Germany. The packaging is stuck in customs because I included a drawing (pencil on paper type thing!). Computer says no. The whole thing is utter shit.

AlexaShutUp · 20/02/2022 12:21

I think it has been pretty disastrous for Northern Ireland, actually.

I suppose some people might see the labour market shortages as a positive as there is less competition for jobs. From an employer's perspective, it is bloody awful as we simply can't recruit to some posts. This has had a terrible knock-on impact on the services that we provide to vulnerable individuals, but there is nothing we can do.

zerozerozero · 20/02/2022 12:27

@wanttomarryamillionaire

The vaccine roll out? Thats the only thing i can think of at the moment Smile
Others will, I am sure, point out this is not true.

It is interesting that this particular line our Prime Minister takes manages to fool people. Perhaps when it is pointed out for what it is a barefaced lie by a compulsive narcissistic liar people will start to wonder how in earth such a clown got to the position he has, given he has always and obviously been this bad.

As for the lies that fuelled Brexit itself (£350 million for NHS, anyone?), I suppose we can but despair that our fellow citizens were apparently taken in by all that. (But of course I do not actually suggest that anyone would be stupid to be taken in by such lies; such descriptions demean the political discourse, or something like that.)

Louisianagumbo · 20/02/2022 12:32

@Butterflyfluff

It's much cheaper and much easier to buy things from America now. And for me, America tends to sell things much cheaper than in the EU. So that's an upside for me.

I might be being thick here but how is that a result of leaving the EU?

Trading regulations changed when we left the EU. I don't know if we're on world trading terms or not, but before the Brexit, I had to keep buys under about £20 inc postage to avoid tax. And then, because you can't pay tax in advance, you'd get charged a handling fee on top of that by your delivery company. Now you can buy to a higher amount with import duties; VAT is paid by the seller so there are no handling charges; and I can get free shipping because I can buy in larger amounts. Even with the VAT it all works out tons cheaper because the US is considerably cheaper. I'm very happy about it.
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Butterflyfluff · 20/02/2022 12:33

I’m not sure how the labour shortage is a benefit.

It hasn’t led to all the jobs previously done by people from the EU being now done by British people - in many instances those jobs are simply not getting done anymore.

Restaurants are closing because they can’t get staff, there was a shortage of fruit pickers last year so produce just rotted…….

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AlexaShutUp · 20/02/2022 12:35

@Butterflyfluff

I’m not sure how the labour shortage is a benefit.

It hasn’t led to all the jobs previously done by people from the EU being now done by British people - in many instances those jobs are simply not getting done anymore.

Restaurants are closing because they can’t get staff, there was a shortage of fruit pickers last year so produce just rotted…….

No, I quite agree. I'm certainly not saying that I see it as a benefit. Just that some people might.

My experience is the same as yours. It isn't the case that employers are now having to take on unemployed British people to do the jobs that would previously have been done by EU citizens. Those jobs are just not getting done any more.

Louisianagumbo · 20/02/2022 12:35

@SirChenjins

Literally nothing is better - as we knew would be the case.
But I've just explained how things are better so you are "literally" wrong.
bigbluebus · 20/02/2022 12:36

I haven't noticed any.
Having watched the BBC article this morning about the Cornish Oyster/scallop fishermen having lost 80% of their business, I'm pretty sure most of them will be wishing we were still in the EU.

thatsnotabadger · 20/02/2022 12:41

Oh absolutely everything is better. I can barely afford petrol and cornflakes are fucking extortionate. It's a dream.

Joystir59 · 20/02/2022 12:42

Our vaccination programme was rolled out quickly because we were not locked in to EU purchasing plans

Onlyforcake · 20/02/2022 12:44

It's been brilliant for the cunts that like to tell me to "fuck off home" (so Peterborough then? I was born there) really given them that sense they are backed up, morally proper etc. But as it's the preferred view of the UK. Rest assured I'm saving up to get the fuck out. I guess that's the plus side to the Brexit fans (lets not forget a "majority" feels like that). Truly awful country i really resent my parents for choosing it. Yes, they both voted for Brexit and are part of the problem I now have. Seriously messed up. Yes I'm bitter. But wouldn't you be? Think about the country you were born in voting in favour of the arseholes that think you "don't have a right" to quietly get on with your own life?

TheKeatingFive · 20/02/2022 12:44

Our vaccination programme was rolled out quickly because we were not locked in to EU purchasing plans

Any EU state could opt out of the purchasing plan if they wanted to. So no, that's not a benefit.

ANameChangeAgain · 20/02/2022 12:46

Our vaccination programme was rolled out quickly because we were not locked in to EU purchasing plans this is a big one for me. I was lucky enough not to have any of my elderly relative catch covid because of our successful vaccine programme. The news at the time certainly led us to believe that we were way ahead of them because of the heavy EU bureaucracy.

CaMePlaitPas · 20/02/2022 12:47

Our passports are a chic black now.

I have nothing else.

TheKeatingFive · 20/02/2022 12:47

The news at the time certainly led us to believe that we were way ahead of them because of the heavy EU bureaucracy.

Nope, wrong. The U.K. could have done exactly as they did if they'd stayed in the EU.

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