Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

[vera99]

Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

One for each EU country!

German cartoon. Travel agent urging Germans to come on holiday to Britain so that empty supermarket shelves can make them nostalgic for the old days of Communist East Germany...

JRM has a brass neck and solid brass where there should be a beating heart.

And if there is karma in this world I hope it's not too far away from his skinny ass.

Piss poor reporting though - the man with cerebral palsy made the point that the Tories removed the funding that the council needed to provide his job as a youth officer.

JRM was allowed to turn the conversation to PIP and what he claimed to be its many advantages. The issue was never really 'what is the government doing for the disabled?'

The issue is central government (in effect the Tories) starving local government of funds, eliminating local government services, turning former local government services into profit opportunities for the well-connected (academy chains for instance). And leaving former council employees high and dry, whether disabled or not.

The humiliation of having to prove a disability was the final straw for this man.

Well summarised mathanxiety.

Who, for example, ever voted for Academy chains? I heard a statistic once - a Director of Education for a Local Authority would probably have charge of 200 or so schools, and typically be paid £150,000. A head of an Academy chain typically has up to nine schools and is paid something like £350,000 for substantially less responsibility. This extra money is money which could be used to directly educate the children either by more staff or better equipment and facilities.

Education was something of an issue at the 2017 election and probably helped May to lose her majority, but it didn't gain any traction at the 2019 election. I hope now that parents, and children old enough to vote next time, just remember how the Tories have treated their education of the past few years.

That man with cerebral palsy was so distraught and JRM so utterly utterly indifferent in that emotionally removed faux politeness manner of his. I could so easily imagine him talking about this great new Tory scheme for workhouses to provide for the disabled and impoverished

You can certainly see him around the table discussing the final solution.

I’m not going to be able to read or watch the news until this week is over. It’s just too many incompetent and/or horrible self serving people all in one place all being given air time.

Liz Truss. George Eustice. Rishi Sunak. Grant Shapps. Boris Johnson. Gove. Patel. Redwood. Lord Frost.

Nadine Dorries criticising the BBC for nepotism and employing lots of privately educated people…like from Eton for example?

That man with cerebral palsy was so distraught and JRM so utterly utterly indifferent

We need a modern day Charles Dickens to describe that encounter. It could so easily be a pivotal scene from one of his novels. JRM wouldn’t have to change one iota, except maybe a top hat and a natty umbrella.

@HannibalHayeski

We're saved!

Given EU drivers have been all over the media - even the BBC - telling us why they won’t come here, it’s hardly a surprise. Especially when Tory politicians are trying to imply it’s not just a problem for us and saying there’s a shortage of drivers across the EU…

Nadine Dorries criticising the BBC for nepotism

Would this be the same Nadine Dorries that employs her daughters in her official office, paid for by the taxpayer?

Ah yes that would be the same one. In her case I’d be willing to accept that it’s being so thick that she’s missing the hypocrisy. IMO, the cabinet are divided into ‘attack dogs’ and their handlers who urge them on. Dorries and Patel are the former. JRM is an example of the latter.

For those looking to vote Tory because they hate trans people as much as women;

Boris Johnson rules out making misogyny a hate crime because it would overload the police...

Not all the HGV applicants are from the EU though. They've received applicants from India, Nigeria, South Africa, UAE as well. And their competency/qualifications to actually get a driving job haven't been checked yet.
I used to be involved in recruiting for our office, and there were always a significant proportion of applicants who hardly met any criteria. I suspect to get 5000 drivers they will need to get anything up to 50,000 applicants, so there's some way to go.

I don't wish to be unkind but having seen the driving in India......well,let's say the rules of the road are interpretted rather more liberally than here. However, I would enjoy seeing the brightly painted lorries that they go in for.

Just waiting for you to be accused of racism, Peregrina. Liking brightly coloured lorries is probably some form of cultural appropriation in some eyes.

Different countries have different driving conventions. I remember the first time dh and I drove in South Africa, we couldn't understand why on country roads the car in front of us would regularly pull over and drive almost in the drainage ditch to the side of the road. That's because the convention there is to pull over (but not change speed) to allow the vehicle behind to overtake more easily.

Might also explain why there are so many pedestrian injuries and fatalities though

I do like the South African Highway Code for the many 4 way stops though. They observe strictly the order in which they arrive as to who goes next.

Just waiting for you to be accused of racism, Peregrina.

Yes, I was hesitant about posting because of it. But I have also been a bit wary in Paris and northern Italy with the standards of driving. (That should satisfy our Brexiter friends when they next drop in.)

Southern Italy I found to be safer - the drivers go slower; the perilous mountain drops to the sea tend to guarantee that.

Trevor Noah taking the piss out of Brexit on the Daily Show . Good to know that the UK is so respected internationally

https://www.indy100.com/politics/daily-show-brexit-trevor-noah-b1931725?utmcontent=Echobox&utmmmedium=Social&utmsource=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR0geBiBQk5g4hTbsz8QdhYVlHuBntvFnMvIDbUT--ihv9C7pzCOaqQMMfQ#Echobox=1633348582

Is LQ still on the threads? Everything she warned us would happen is now painfully obvious for all to see.

I visited the local co-op yesterday. It's stock control was never good at the best of times but now- hardly any meat, few vegetables and I noticed the ready meal section was almost entirely denuded also.

I managed to fill up with diesel at least. So grateful to have got into the habit of keeping well stocked at all times, and that I have the wherewithal to do so.

Elderly relative taken to hospital yesterday from the care home, and since then it's been radio silence. Hospital switchboard just ringing out and cutting off. It's often taken a few tries before, over many years of experience of dealing with hospitalised elderlies- but never have I had no contact whatsoever. It's very anxiety-making. I can only I imagine the hell it is in there for staff and patients at the moment.

It must be very difficult in some parts of the NHS at present, though I have to say I’ve had wholly positive experiences over the last year with a helpful and proactive GP - both telephone and face to face consultations - and hospital treatment for one relatively serious and one less serious condition. I have also had my first, second and booster vaccinations. I feel lucky.
Conditions in schools are awful as well with infection rates among children in some areas and sectors over 5000 per 100000, a patchy vaccination programme, ongoing uncertainty over this year’s exams and staff absence due to Covid so high in some places that there is no supply cover to be had at all. This is largely due to the cavalier mismanagement of the situation by Government, whose policy appeared to be “let it rip”, and it has. This is largely being ignored or at best minimised by the media.

This is the new normal now everything getting a bit shittier incrementally the frog is slowly being boiled and it's everybody's fault except those in charge. Whose main qualifications seem to be having gone to Eton, deflection and lies. Here's some of the new breed from the tory party conference.

Farming Today - shortage of vets to carry out pig culls on farms.

Government says industry will have to make its own contingency plans, despite such culls having to comply with legal requirements, which is probably impossible.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00106cp

This is the sort of person who funds the Tories now - corruption on an epic scale - this is not gaslighting but arc-lighting. The biggest political donation in British history from Russian oligarchs. Just consider that for a moment and how the tories wrap themselves in the flag and profess to be patriots.

www.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/04/tory-party-top-female-donor-lubov-chernukhin-vast-offshore-empire-husband

And now Raab is going after the Human Rights Act, although he is saying he is going to overhaul it rather than repeal as he previously did.

@borntobequiet

President of the NFU trying to raise the alarm of the greatest healthy animal cull in British history - Johnson's response to crack jokes and lies. We are no longer a serious country led by serious leaders. It's way beyond a joke and more of a criminal conspiracy.

twitter.com/libdemdaisy/status/1445076079828480024

The Dominic Hutchins video was very upsetting. JRM doesn't seem phased in the slightest. It doesn't seem like he cares at all.

Vera99 They aren't Conservatives, not any more not the ones in the Cabinet anyway. The traditional Conservatives have been displaced by a bunch of disaster capitalists doing the bidding of whoever pays them the most.