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Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

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vera99 · 22/09/2021 19:41

Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

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HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 19:39

[quote DuncinToffee]You really can't make it up

British motorists driving outside the UK must now remove old-style GB stickers or cover them up.
Instead they should display a UK sticker or have the UK identifier on their number plate.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58734265[/quote]
And that paragon of honesty, The Express, was railing against the UB for having announced this (completely ignoring that it was the UK government that asked them to), and convoluting itself in bizarre ways in it's desperation to blame the EU. Rather than the UK government which has decided to screw it's own people up even more, just at a time when everything is going so well, after all...

Anyway, I've found some stickers to cover the old ones up!

HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 19:40

UB = UK, obviously...

HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 19:42

Doesn't say who they blame though - perhaps the EU!!

Yesss, because Brexit is all the EU's fault Hmm

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 29/09/2021 19:47

Our car has a stack of stickers on the number plate. From the top:
EU stars
Union flag
Scottish saltire
"SCO"
Nobody in the EU ever batted an eyelid over them.
Might be different in future, so we'll have to decide how to comply and make a point at the same time.
I may have just the thing: when I bought "I voted remain" passport covers from I Love EU (link supplied by a Westminsterender), they kindly sent several similarly themed stickers, some of which will be applied to the car windows. Wink

vera99 · 29/09/2021 19:48

Your not nicknamed Cut n' Paste Clavinova for nothing!

UK government chucks money at German company shock and huge strategic UK civil-military defence contactor gets a bung shock. Shame the twopenny/ha'penny fisherman didn't have the same clout. Though they were bigged up and held as totemic during the Brexit.

Turns out Johnson only listens to the business interests of the multinational corporate elites. Who would have thunk of an Eton toff?

"Martin Laity is a shellfish merchant in Falmouth, Cornwall whose business has been devastated by Brexit. Since January he has seen a 99% drop in his business and has been forced to lay off 50 staff because of problems with paperwork and the inability to export his product to Europe. He lays the blame squarely on Brexit and its implementation, telling Byline TV his business was actually managing to continue trading and even seeing an uptick in sales despite Coronavirus. He voted Remain having foreseen problems of this nature but says he didn't even expect the situation to be this dire. Now like many others in coastal towns, he is worried about the future for thousands of hard working fishermen who feel they have been thrown to the wolves."

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Clavinova · 29/09/2021 19:50

care sector

Vaccination rates in some Eastern European countries are so low (hesitancy) I'm not sure immigration into the care sector is going to be an instant solution if we press ahead with mandatory vaccinations.

HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 19:51

Speaking of Germany, just when are their car makers going to come along and ensure we have a great deal?

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 29/09/2021 19:56

Thanks for the link, *Hannibal.

vera99 · 29/09/2021 20:12

Correction re Airbus.

The company's main civil aeroplane business is conducted through the French company Airbus S.A.S.,based in Blagnac, a suburb of Toulouse, with production and manufacturing facilities mostly in Europe (France, Germany, Spain, United Kingdom) but also in China, the United States and Canada. Final assembly production is based in Toulouse, France; Hamburg, Germany; Seville, Spain; Tianjin, China; Mobile, United States; and Montreal, Canada.

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Clavinova · 29/09/2021 20:14

Martin Laity is a shellfish merchant in Falmouth, Cornwall whose business has been devastated by Brexit. Since January he has seen a 99% drop in his business

New website for 2021 and active on Facebook;
www.sailorscreekshellfish.co.uk/collections/all

May 2021
Cornwall Council is being held by a political majority for the first time in the history of the unitary authority.

The Conservative Party gained four seats for a total of 47, pushing them over the required 44 to take overall control of the council.

Most of the blue gains came from seats previously held by Liberal Democrat and Independent councillors who lost 35 wards between them.

Celebrations are rumbling through the Conservative Party, with newly elected councillors calling the news "fantastic".

www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2021-05-08/cornwall-council-held-by-conservative-majority-for-first-time-and-labour-lose-plymouth

HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 20:15

Senior moment; Where I said UB = UK, I meant UN, obviously...

Clavinova · 29/09/2021 20:18

Correction re Airbus

Correction??

Airbus UK is a wholly owned subsidiary of Airbus which produces wings for Airbus aircraft. When Airbus was incorporated as a joint-stock company in 2001, BAE Systems transferred its UK Airbus facilities in return for a 20% share of the new company. These facilities became Airbus UK.

vera99 · 29/09/2021 20:25

Nothing more stupid than a gambler who doubles his bet to get back his winnings at some point he leaves the casino bust. And of course fisherman aside Cornwall will have made record tourist money during the pandemic and entitled cashed-up Tories are much better at getting their vote out. If we took out the over 65s then Jeremy Corbyn would have won the election!

www.falmouthpacket.co.uk/news/19571108.cornwall-get-just-3m-replacement-funding-leaving-eu/

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HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 20:27

To Comical Clavi, re: above;

Much as I love Cornwall, and the Cornish (and, indeed, I spend quite a bit of time down there), they're not renowned for being the brightest nor best educated. They voted for Brexshit, after all...

Clavinova · 29/09/2021 20:45

Three towns will receive £65m in funding to create a "fitting legacy" of the G7 summit in Cornwall, Prime Minister Boris Johnson has announced.

The money given to Penzance, St Ives and Camborne for local projects comes from the government's Towns Fund.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-57406143

Ahead of the [G7] Summit the Government has also made a £7.8m investment into Cornwall Airport Newquay’s facilities.

Visit Cornwall estimates the total economic impact for the county of hosting the G7 Summit will be £50 million - £24m during the event itself, and over £26m from future growth in the international tourist market over the next five years.

www.gov.uk/government/news/pm-announces-new-funding-for-cornwall-to-create-a-g7-legacy-for-the-region

Also, it was my understanding that EU funding money will take some years to trickle through - for projects bid for last year and previous years. That's why the 'divorce bill' is so high - we are still paying for EU funding we haven't received back yet.

vera99 · 29/09/2021 20:46

Hmm Cornwall

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Peregrina · 29/09/2021 20:49

Most of the blue gains came from seats previously held by Liberal Democrat and Independent councillors who lost 35 wards between them. Celebrations are rumbling through the Conservative Party, with newly elected councillors calling the news "fantastic".

By contrast though, the Tories were trounced in the Oxfordshire County Council elections, and they are most definitely not celebrating.

vera99 · 29/09/2021 20:56

Coming over 'ere how dare they

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HannibalHayeski · 29/09/2021 21:13

So Cornwall got loads of money from hosting the summit.

How many deaths are directly attributable to that summit?

vera99 · 29/09/2021 21:30

La Lotta Continua

Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot
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mathanxiety · 29/09/2021 21:49

www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44618154
26 June 2018
Boris Johnson has refused to deny claims he used an expletive when asked about business concerns about Brexit.

The foreign secretary is reported to have used the swear word at a diplomatic gathering last week.

Asked about this in the Commons, he said he may have "expressed scepticism about some of the views of those who profess to speak up for business".

Theresa May said it was right the government listened to business voices about the terms of the UK's exit.

This story contains language some may find offensive.

Airbus, BMW and Siemens have warned about the impact on their UK-based operations if the UK leaves the EU next March without any agreement.

Their warnings have prompted different responses from ministers.

Business Secretary Greg Clark has said the UK must "take and act on the advice of business" but Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt said a warning from Airbus that it could cease operations entirely in the UK, threatening thousands of jobs, was "completely inappropriate".

Asked about corporate concerns over a so-called hard Brexit, at an event for EU diplomats in London last week, Mr Johnson is reported to have replied: "Fuck business."

Mr Johnson, who was reportedly speaking at the time to Rudolf Huygelen, Belgium's ambassador to the EU, was also overheard saying he and others would fight Theresa May's soft Brexit "and win".

The foreign secretary, who was a key figure in the Leave campaign, was pressed on the issue in Parliament by Labour MP Owen Smith, who asked him if the comments were correct and, if so, whether they could be "remotely justified".

"I don't think anybody could doubt the passionate support of this government for business," Mr Johnson said.

"It may be that I have, from time to time, expressed scepticism about some of the views of those who profess to speak up for business."

Mr Johnson's comments about Brexit have frequently proved controversial. He was recorded telling Tory donors last month that the UK's strategy lacked "guts" and suggested US President Donald Trump could do a better job.

The latest remark has angered some Tory MPs, with former Science Minister George Freeman telling BBC Radio 4's World at One programme that the reported comments were not "helpful, responsible or statesmanlike".

The prime minister, who will travel to Brussels on Thursday for a summit of EU leaders, told a chief executives summit hosted by the Times she wanted business to be able to speak to the government.

"It's right that we listen to the voice of business," she said.

"Business is at the heart of how we are going to develop this country," she said. "We want to ensure we are listening to the business voice because business provides the backbone of our economy."

MPs who favour a clean break with the EU after Brexit, in March 29 2019, have called on Mrs May to walk away from negotiations if the EU does not show willingness to begin trade talks immediately.

The context of F...k business here was Boris Johnson sniping at Theresa May from the sidelines, whipping up the rabble behind a hard Brexit, stirring the pot in hopes of occupying Number 10 and getting the chance to do some real mischief.

Nobody misquoted him. It was entirely consistent with his character, ambitions, and previous form.

1dayatatime · 29/09/2021 21:49

[quote vera99]Hmm Cornwall

[/quote] Ahh English racist stereotyping by the BBC... so hilarious not.

Mebyon Kernow are a left of centre party and highlight the bigotry shown against the Cornish by the English especially over this summer.

Also given 55% of Cornish people would support a Cornish Assembly (Mori 2020) I don't think their position is that radical.

mathanxiety · 29/09/2021 21:51

The Conservative Party gained four seats for a total of 47, pushing them over the required 44 to take overall control of the council.

Most of the blue gains came from seats previously held by Liberal Democrat and Independent councillors who lost 35 wards between them.

There really is no accounting for stupidity, is there?

1dayatatime · 29/09/2021 21:56

@HannibalHayeski

To Comical Clavi, re: above;

Much as I love Cornwall, and the Cornish (and, indeed, I spend quite a bit of time down there), they're not renowned for being the brightest nor best educated. They voted for Brexshit, after all...

Seriously!!

Insert any other ethnic group in your sentence and you would be torn apart on this thread for stereotyping and racism. Yet somehow you feel comfortable posting such nasty comments.

The level of racism shown to the Cornish this summer by English tourists was shocking and somehow the English tourists wonder why the locals don't like them much.

prettybird · 29/09/2021 22:05

I find it much easier to ignore Comical Clavi's posts. His or her posts C&Ps never contribute anything nor offer any independent thought or analysis, nor do they move the discussion forward
(judging by other people's replies who have wasted their time bothered reading the C&P). Hmm

He or she is just not worth the effort. Wink

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