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Is it time to move on positively after Brexit?

162 replies

TheReluctantPhoenix · 07/05/2021 09:29

The following article appeared in the Times today (hopefully the share token has worked properly)::

The pain of Brexit isn’t as bad as I’d feared

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-pain-of-brexit-isnt-as-bad-as-id-feared-9n58bgcs5

This is written by the Britain editor of the Economist, one of the most ardent pro EU journals.

In it, inter alia, Emma Duncan admits that a mere 7,600 financial service jobs have moved from London to another European capital because of Brexit and that the BOE is now forecasting a post COVID bounce back of 7.25% to our GDP.

Of course, the article has many caveats about what might yet happen, but also some explanation as to why the U.K. might be far more resilient than she (and most ardent remainers) feared.

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vera99 · 26/09/2021 06:55

Found a positive....

Brexit is good

…because it allows us to fix problems caused by Brexit

lovelyupnorth · 26/09/2021 07:41

We are no where near the full effects of Brexit. The government keeps kicking some elements down the road like inbound customs checks they’ll give it another shock going forward.

Definitely getting worse before it gets better.

vera99 · 26/09/2021 09:07

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vera99 · 26/09/2021 09:12

Professor Christopher Painter
@PrfChrisPainter
Those who voted for Johnson because of Brexit, or because they liked his 'character', or even because they just fancied a bit of a laugh, are going to have the shock of their lives over the next six months.

Papershuffle · 26/09/2021 11:06

I've just posted on another thread that the full introduction of the new Customs Declaration Service will be taking place on on 1 October 2022 for imports - so the disruption is going to get worse.

FinallyHere · 28/09/2021 19:35

several months after the actual exit.

While we have lost freedom of movement, the government are issuing temporary visa for others to come here.

Source. Current headlines.

Our goods are subject to non-tariff barriers to trade on their way to their markets in Europe, from fresh seafood to M&S sandwiches why the GB government delays implementation on goods coming into GB

Source FT https://www.ft.com/content/e32dda1b-7dbe-454e-ab32-3d80604df431

We may have exited but we have honestly not really even begun to feel the pain

The major question is ... what have we gained. The EU anti tax avoidance measures will not apply to us. Pretty niche.

Anything else ?

Jason118 · 03/10/2021 14:08

We've gained more stress.

Incandescent2 · 03/10/2021 16:00

I have a Euro passport and my way of moving on currently is looking into how to secure one for my husband as well. I'll feel much happier once we have that safety net, as currently it not looking good over here. I say this with real sadness as when I came here I thought that the UK was ahead of Europe in terms of open mindedness and dynamism but I think now it is outdated in its thinking and will find itself left behind.

PrincessNutNuts · 04/10/2021 22:51

I missed the last winter of discontent so these sunlit uplands of the ongoing Brexit chaos is a whole new experience for me.

I'm pretty sure the Brexit effects on the British way of life are by no means over or finished.

So we can't "move on" from Brexit can we?

We're mired down in it for the foreseeable.

PrincessNutNuts · 08/10/2021 13:03

On BBC Question Time last night it was made abundantly clear that they structure their local audiences based on how the area voted in the referendum in 2016 and the last General Election.

Last night was in the Tory safe seat for a century, heavily Brexit voting town of Aldershot in Hampshire so the audience was composed of a majority Conservative party voters and Brexit voters.

They didn't say how they represent the views of those who didn't vote in either of those.

But Brexit hasn't even been fully implemented yet, and Question Time hasn't moved on.

I suspect that when people want us to move on from Brexit they actually mean "Stop pointing out all the supply chain problems, staffing issues, higher business costs, economic self harm and general havoc, higher costs and misery caused by Brexit."

But we cant.

Because we're all forced to live through Brexit.

And it doesn't get better.

We'll just get used to our lower standard of living and diminished British way of life eventually.

Old men will stand in the middle of housing estates, wave an arm around and say "I remember when all this used to be farmland. Pre-Brexit." And the grandchildren will ask him what a "farm" is.

Peregrina · 08/10/2021 21:13

I was around for the Winter of Discontent. As far as I remember a lot of places weren't affected by it much or at all. I certainly don't remember it in Oxfordshire. In the last couple of weeks though I have seen with my own eyes queues for petrol in Oxfordshire and North Wales, so the disruption would appear to be more widespread than the Winter of Discontent was.

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