Westministenders: This is not the Brexit we voted for

[ListeningQuietly]

UK Shellfish industry destroyed because our inshore waters are not clean enough
Welsh Ports on their knees because the Land Bridge has found another route
Horticulture seed producers lost all of their mainland EU customers

Antique dealers lost access to their suppliers
Small businesses being told (by UK Govt) to relocate to the EU to avoid red tape
Brits in the EU discovering that stopping Free Movement applies to them too
Northern Ireland in Unionist flames because there is a border between them and Great Britain, but not the Republic
And the UK has still not taken control of its borders

Brexit is shaping up as predicted, but none of those who voted for it seem to have what they wanted

HannibalHayeski

Bad luck;

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/04/16/voting-intention-con-43-lab-29-13-14-apr

Erm, relevance to my comment?

The relevance is: “Look, a 🐿!”

I notice that Prince Harry is thinning on top, and that Peter Phillips is quite short.

This must of course have been induced by Brexit.
(Actually I am a bit surprised about Peter Phillips being short.)

Well, I certainly don't care much that Boris Johnson was sacked for making up a quote as a trainee journalist aged 23 - not when we can't seem to deport 23 year old murderers, rapists and drug dealers without left-wing campaigners making a fuss

You don't appear to recognise that as much as we might want to deport 23 yo crims, we can't if they are british, if it means they face the death penalty, risk persecution or if we don't know where they are actually from.

The UK (still) has to abide by international law (as much as you'd like to rip it up) not left wing campaigners.

As for Johnson? "Show me the boy and i'll show you the man"

If any of us, inc you Clav, knew someone with his track record in RL, we'd all run mile

That poll just proves, sadly, that we have an electorate that values soundbites over substance and is happy to sacrifice democracy. We get the government we deserve.

Unless Clavinova is really Boris Johnson himself.....

@Peregrina

Unless Clavinova is really Boris Johnson himself.....

Well, the quality of debate isn't that much different...

LostToucan
So Johnson explicitly claiming no checks for goods moving GB to NI.

I didn't get a chance to look at all of your links last weekend. You might call this semantics but I note that in the Irish Times article Boris Johnson is quoted as saying;

"...the only checks that there would be, would be if something was coming from GB via Northern Ireland and was going on to the Republic, then there might be checks at the border into Northern Ireland.”

This puts your quote slightly out of context as BJ did acknowledge (in the Sophy Ridge interview) that there might be checks on goods going to ROI via the land bridge.

mathanxiety
(Boris Johnson has said the Northern Ireland Protocol is not operating in the way he envisaged.)

I can't imagine why;

Reuters, 8 December 2020

“Good progress! Will finally provide some certainty on implementation of Brexit Protocol in Northern Ireland. Practical cooperation and flexibility has been agreed to make it as manageable as possible for people and businesses,” Simon Coveney said on Twitter.

www.reuters.com/article/britain-eu-ireland-idUKKBN28I1X1

Now I'm going to watch Line of Duty...

There has to be an effective border between GB/NI and the EU, it cannot be frictionless at all, its just a matter of where it is........

Your link is over 4 months old - irrelevant.

Bojo doesn't care about NI, so long as he isn't seen as the cause of reigniting its troubled history.

Johnson hasn't done yet, although I don't doubt that when the time comes the Tory party will be ruthless at putting the knife in

They’ll keep him on as long as poss to take as much blame as poss and then unceremoniously turf him out. Unlike previous PMs with at least some dignity to keep them going (even TB, whose achievements were blighted by Iraq) BJ will have nothing but reams of waffle and piffle in the usual rags. And maybe not even that.

Cameron had nothing much to boast about either although he chose to run away. Would the Tory Party have defenestrated him?

So, what do we think about the odds of Irish Reunification after today's apology by Sinn Fein ?

Johnson himself may do a runner as Cameron did. Leaving someone else to sort out his shit show.

.....oh I think he like Chequers too much to give that up willingly......and yes I do think he's that shallow

Yep, I'll be reading up on Cam, Lex and the NHS 'scam' - too busy sucking up sunshine to read much today. Not at all surprised that DC was used as a Dupe - is anyone really?

BJ seems foot on the pedal on this so I'm not decrying all Tories from the rooftops, yet. Meanwhile how's the Brexit thing going?

LQ - a quick Googly produced no results ref yor last post and any Sinn Fein statements - do you have a link I can start from please?

I'm off to sofa, sofar so will look at it soon.

Many thanks
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I do not know what you put into google but its a pretty big story in the US and Irish papers

Sinn Fein story from the Guardian. It hadn't made it to the BBC when I looked an hour ago.

But its in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post and ALL of the Irish papers
funny that the British Press cannot see a HUGE story when its on their doorstep

“Good progress! Will finally provide some certainty on implementation of Brexit Protocol in Northern Ireland. Practical cooperation and flexibility has been agreed to make it as manageable as possible for people and businesses,” Simon Coveney said on Twitter.

In other words, the UK has agreed to do what it said it would.

No more game playing or brinkmanship by Westminster.

The protocol agreed as part of last year’s divorce accord to prevent a hard border between Northern Ireland and the EU’s Republic of Ireland keeps the British-run region, in effect, in the EU’s customs union and single market for goods after Dec. 31 when the rest of the United Kingdom leaves fully.

The DUP can suck it up.

Or perhaps this is yet another example of Westminster losing sight of the Unionist demands unless they are right there in the room with them, and BJ will change his mind later after a sit down with Arlene and further nocturnal demonstrations of loyalty on the part of the DUP's rent-a-mob division.

The inability to work with more than two elements of the NI-EU situation at any given time has been a notable feature of Westminster conversations with NI, Ireland, and the EU since 2016.

In other words, the UK has agreed to do what it said it would.
No more game playing or brinkmanship by Westminster.

With BlowJob and Frost I am afraid I will only believe it when they are seen to enact it. (If BJ told me it was raining, I would go outside to check.)

I wonder how much influence the Biden Administration has had behind the scenes?