Westministenders: This is not the Brexit we voted for

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UK Shellfish industry destroyed because our inshore waters are not clean enough
Welsh Ports on their knees because the Land Bridge has found another route
Horticulture seed producers lost all of their mainland EU customers

Antique dealers lost access to their suppliers
Small businesses being told (by UK Govt) to relocate to the EU to avoid red tape
Brits in the EU discovering that stopping Free Movement applies to them too
Northern Ireland in Unionist flames because there is a border between them and Great Britain, but not the Republic
And the UK has still not taken control of its borders

Brexit is shaping up as predicted, but none of those who voted for it seem to have what they wanted

Johnson government downgraded to junta...

With BlowJob and Frost I am afraid I will only believe it when they are seen to enact it. (If BJ told me it was raining, I would go outside to check.)

Yes - the weaseling they attempted from the 1st of January is proof positive of bad faith.

And when it does hit our Newspapers it will be 'nasty EU bullied us into it'

Boris was elected by the Great British Public for one thing, and one thing only. To unblock the logjam of Brexit that was stuck in Parliament. And in that he was successful.
I have been wondering if, once Covid is "over" and we're back to normality, whether the Tory Party will dump him, aka Churchill.
But then who would take over ...
I couldn't face having Gove.

Boris was elected by the Great British Public for one thing, and one thing only. To unblock the logjam of Brexit that was stuck in Parliament. And in that he was successful.

I think you're misinformed. Brexit is far from over (just read these threads). And it's certainly far from successful!

KonTikki is not wrong entirely - he was elected to Get Brexit Done.
Then with the Devil's luck Covid came along and all the Brexit failings can be swept under the Covid carpet.

With his majority of nodding dogs in Parliament, he can get anything Brexit shaped voted through. As we have seen, more time was spent eulogising Prince Philip than discussing his shit Brexit deal.

Big news about his Government having to comply with the Agreements they signed up to? Quietly kept out of the main Newspapers.

More brexit winning. The MHRA was late to spot/act on the AstraZeneca blood clot connection due in part to having removed itself from EudraVigilance, the EU's early warning system for problems with medicines.

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/revealed-britains-regulator-missed-link-astrazeneca-jab-rare/

The MHRA was late to spot/act on the AstraZeneca blood clot connection

And in the meantime there was so much shouting about nasty EU countries dissing our vaccine out of spite (including many threads on here).

A tech journalist writes (and is not contradicted)

www.theregister.com/2021/04/19/ai_regulation_column/

One of the Brexit bonuses we’ve been enjoying since January 1st is that we have abandoned our influence within the world’s regulatory superpower

America and China may have industrial and military dominance, but by placing a decent proportion of global economic activity under the world’s strongest regulatory regime, the EU forces the pace for everyone else. GDPR commands respect around the world.

(contd)

Now I am engaged full time in work it will be the IT aspects of Brexit that may keep me posting. After I've updated my boss.

And to take ammunition away from the shouters, one of the other vaccines, I think it may be the Moderna, has exhibited the same problems. So it's right to be cautious, especially since there are now choices of vaccines made with differing processes, so people can be offered the most appropriate.

Boris was elected by the Great British Public

'English' public, please.

@Peregrina

And to take ammunition away from the shouters, one of the other vaccines, I think it may be the Moderna, has exhibited the same problems. So it's right to be cautious, especially since there are now choices of vaccines made with differing processes, so people can be offered the most appropriate.

Given that COVID itself has clotting issues as a complication I don't think it's unreasonable to think there is a link between the nature of the virus and the immune response to the vaccine. It may be that there will always be a risk due to that connection - more research definitely needed, but also sensible assessments of the risk of vaccine vs the risk of COVID complications.

From my layperson's perspective not medically trained , is it not logical that if one of the big risks of Covid is blood clots, then a vaccine that mimics the virus in order to induce an immune response might also, in a very small proportion of cases, also cause a blood clot ? And that if those people had actually caught Covid, they'd have been at an ever greater risk of blood clots from the virus? Difficult to prove though.

But as my dad, who is medically trained, (retired doctor) pointed out last night: the risk of driving on a motorway, being hit by lightning, blood clots from taking the Pill, paracetamol, flying etc are all greater than the risk from the AZ vaccine . He was ranting about how statistically illiterate about risk the politicians and the MSM are and don't get him started on anti vaxxers

Snap @pointythings

But then, as a letter writer in the Guardian pointed out, women prescribed the Pill have their blood pressure taken each time. Paracetemol is known to be fatal and relatively easy to overdose on. When I was growing up we were regularly given aspirin for any sort of pain. Now it's not prescribed for children.

So my statement was that I have no problem with regulatory authorities being cautious, and telling us that we need to balance the risks. I would say that if they appear to be covering up or minimising risks, they are more likely to play into the hands of anti-vaxers, so openness on behalf of the authorities and education of the public are both required.

As far as paracetamol goes, I don't think the risks are highlighted enough.

I don't think women on the pill have their blood pressure monitored very often do they? I'm too old for such things but my daughter informs me that the check up is a very rare occurrence @Peregrina

@Tocktickclick

I don't think women on the pill have their blood pressure monitored very often do they? I'm too old for such things but my daughter informs me that the check up is a very rare occurrence *@Peregrina*

Mine is checked every time I renew my prescription, so every 3 months normally.

That's how it used to be for me, but things can change, but I was repeated what a family planning nurse wrote, so she should know.

DGR ^"Now I am engaged full time in work it will be the IT aspects of Brexit that may keep me posting. After I've updated my boss."^

Congrats on your new job, DGR. Although your first duty is still to update these threads first and only then your boss.

[quote FatCatThinCat]More brexit winning. The MHRA was late to spot/act on the AstraZeneca blood clot connection due in part to having removed itself from EudraVigilance, the EU's early warning system for problems with medicines.

www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/revealed-britains-regulator-missed-link-astrazeneca-jab-rare/[/quote]
The astonishing thing here is that The Telegraph is running a story which suggests Brexit may have caused any kind of problem.

It's a good piece. I didn't realise The Telegraph was still doing anystill actual journalism.

@UltimateFoole

DGR ^"Now I am engaged full time in work it will be the IT aspects of Brexit that may keep me posting. After I've updated my boss."^

Congrats on your new job, DGR. Although your first duty is still to update these threads first and only then your boss.

Many thanks

Any updating will now be mainly at the weekend, or with more IT specific angles of the unholy shitshow that is brexit. And boy are there going to be plenty.

Won't cut through because it's not a three word slogan.

Martin Rowson in the Mirror yesterday.

The problem here is that this is being classed as sleaze.

Sleaze is shagging Edwina Currie, or Boris' other nocturnal activities (the ones that don't involve paying taxpayers money to his mistresses anyway).

What is going on here is rampant corruption, cronyism, and treason. And it should be being called out as such.

Labour and the minority need to RAMP UP the pressure on
cronyism and
corruption
and point out that it was Eric Pickles who abolished the Standards Board and the Audit Commission
and thus led directly to the teflon Tories we have now.

The elections are only a few weeks away
they need to pull their fingers out

I gather from the non UK press that vaccination is proceeding apace across the many and different countries in the EU ....