SLOW CLAP FOR BREXITEERS (again).

[alaia3]

I posted a while back about a ridiculous customs charge I had to pay due to the wonder that is Brexit.

So now, it’s a special birthday of a relative who has had a hard time recently. I ordered her a certain type of Murano glass vase (she collects these) and, hardly surprisingly, it comes from Italy where it is made. No problem as it’s free and fast delivery with this company.

Anyway, the vase didn’t arrive. Checked on UPS and hey presto - a customs charge of £170 for a vase that cost £450. This is “due to the inconvenience that is Brexit” that’s how it translates on the Italian tracking page).

So, it seems we can no longer order anything from Europe for to the genius of those who voted Brexit! Has anything more idiotic ever taken place in British history? Maybe reality will finally hit them at the same time as the customs charges hit?

And if you were delivering fresh food? How would the delay work for you?

Of course this is one of them! What is affecting OP here is impacting business across the country: significantly increased costs
No, I’m talking about the OPs specific issue. OP has only latched on to others arguments later on in the thread re import duty on wider goods, she really wasn’t concerned about anything other than her own vase purchase being charged for, OPs specific issue is feeling sore at having to pay vat duty and charges on an imported item due to their own failing at understanding how the system works. You only have to have read OPs original thread blaming charges, on an item from Russia, on Brexit!

So did you not learn your lesson the last time , why do think its going to change and suddenlyno customs charges will be due?

@fretnot the company you buy from should be able to give you the commodity code : tariff number , they should know this if they ship anywhere , then you can look up the duty rate and obviously know vat rate and roughly work out the costs .
If they claim the items are duty paid then what are they claiming to pay for as only duties would be customs ?

When people say maybe buy from a uk company they don't mean just uk goods there may be companies that sell eu goods and the goods are in the country so the price is what you pay , so no extra charges as they would of maybe bought large amount cheaper etc

@Knowingitsallover

When people say maybe buy from a uk company they don't mean just uk goods there may be companies that sell eu goods and the goods are in the country so the price is what you pay , so no extra charges as they would of maybe bought large amount cheaper etc

That’s true. Beside, whether we like it or not, Brexit is happening. Who knows; there might be another referendum in 20 years time as many young people under the voting age might have a different view to the narrow majority.

Personally, I’m a remain pragmatist. I know the EU has its flaws and I’m hopeful that everything will be ok. I do have worries about the price of food going up, as not everything can be grown in the UK, but I’m hoping eventually the import and export of goods and tariffs will be clear.

It’s in everyone’s best interests for the UK to remain intact because it’s easier to be in some kind of a trade bloc. I do feel sorry for those who will no longer receive EU subsidies, but unthinkingly voted for Brexit and are now suffering. As a Londoner, I also feel sorry for those who have to bear the brunt of other people’s decisions because Scotland et al did not want to leave so I feel like it’s undemocratic to impose results that they did not vote for.

Selfish as it may be, I don’t want to suffer just to show Brexiters they were wrong and we were right. Why should I suffer when I didn’t choose Brexit? So I am hoping it’s not all doom and gloom. The margin might have been narrow, and I have every bit of sympathy for those who voted for Brexit based on the lies that they’ve been told, but I’d like to think that those who have said they logical and well thought out reasons will be proven right. I’d like to think that not everyone had odd views like Farage.

If that means that I have my head in the sand then so be it. I still have hope that everything will be ok.

@sst1234

Number of comments telling people to buy locally is really quite something. Some people really have limited imagination. They must think it’s exotic to buy a something from abroad. While we’re at it, why don’t we stop eating imported fruit and veg and only stick to potatoes. Little Britain at its best.

And I bet they all have stuff from Ikea in their houses, which has been imported from Sweden, or plants in their gardens that have been imported from Holland.

Number of comments telling people to buy locally is really quite something. Some people really have limited imagination. They must think it’s exotic to buy a something from abroad. While we’re at it, why don’t we stop eating imported fruit and veg and only stick to potatoes. Little Britain at its best.

These are the people who will think they’re buying locally because the packaging has a Union Jack on the British bananas and British carrots (grown in Spain).

There has been a huge spike seen here with people sourcing honest and well made British items. Local farm shops are extremely busy selling fruit from Cornwall, British flowers, cheese made in the Cotswolds.

What we are seeing now is more appreciation for our own delicacies, and not assuming that everything from everywhere else is somehow superior. It often isn't.

Supporting our own small businesses and enjoying British specialities including art is not Little Britain, harnessing the potential and ability in this country is not nationalism - it is good for the environment, good for our support system and economy and will go a long way to helping us recover from the pandemic. Being proud of what makes the country unique and different is a wonderful change to the negative bashing we have seen for decades, and should be embraced. I am enjoying the positivity this country is experiencing at the moment.

@Itsalonghaul

There has been a huge spike seen here with people sourcing honest and well made British items. Local farm shops are extremely busy selling fruit from Cornwall, British flowers, cheese made in the Cotswolds.

What we are seeing now is more appreciation for our own delicacies, and not assuming that everything from everywhere else is somehow superior. It often isn't.

Supporting our own small businesses and enjoying British specialities including art is not Little Britain, harnessing the potential and ability in this country is not nationalism - it is good for the environment, good for our support system and economy and will go a long way to helping us recover from the pandemic. Being proud of what makes the country unique and different is a wonderful change to the negative bashing we have seen for decades, and should be embraced. I am enjoying the positivity this country is experiencing at the moment.

This is a fictional version of what is happening. Good British businesses are dying as their export markets have become unviable.

None of the trade barriers Brexit has needlessly introduced will 'help' us recover from the pandemic.

Makes me quite cross reading this sort of saccharine interpretation. The impact is worse on UK exports - harming UK economy.

When I want bananas, I buy them from the shop in my town. I don't send off for a single bunch directly from the banana plantations and moan when I get a duty charge
When we say 'buy here, in Britain' we mean buy the stuff that is already on the island, with duty paid and the price fixed and clear.
But you know that, you just enjoy pretending brexiteers think we grow our own British Bananas 🍌🇬🇧

That is not my experience at all, beginning we are in the south west and are seeing a big surge and change here.

but unthinkingly voted for Brexit
those who voted for Brexit based on the lies that they’ve been told

I wonder when this inaccurate narrative will finally stop.

It's extremely insulting to suggest someone voted 'unthinkingly' or was not intelligent enough to be able to distinguish lies from facts

@crazyneighbour, the link in your post upthread is intriguing - who are IGD? Their blurb says 'We are an organisation of two vital and interconnected communities, Commercial Insight and Social Impact. Together, we are working to drive change that makes a tangible difference for Society, Business and the Individual.'
What does that actually mean? Who are they? 🤔

Yanbu...ask Shaun Cromber 🤣

@Itsalonghaul

That is not my experience at all, beginning we are in the south west and are seeing a big surge and change here.

Read the statistics, your anecdata is meaningless.

My local shop is busy too.

Read the statistics.

Lol

@Seventrees

Apparently some Brexit voters aren't aware that we're no longer allowed to work in the EU. So unless you're independently wealthy, there's no way of relocating to the EU.

This is bollocks. I had to relocate for family reasons in October last year, got residency and now work and pay taxes in the EU. I would love to be "independently wealthy" but am in fact skint.

What you mean is you can't just roll up there looking for work.

Really feel fit you OP, it is rubbish and we have regressed 50 years! But hey ho Union jacks...

ability in this country is not nationalism

There's nothing wrong with wanting your own country to succeed and do well

@tangerinelollipop

but unthinkingly voted for Brexit those who voted for Brexit based on the lies that they’ve been told

I wonder when this inaccurate narrative will finally stop.

It's extremely insulting to suggest someone voted 'unthinkingly' or was not intelligent enough to be able to distinguish lies from facts

This!!

Assuming all leavers are thick and ignorant just makes you sound thick and ignorant.

@Sugarygoodness

When I want bananas, I buy them from the shop in my town. I don't send off for a single bunch directly from the banana plantations and moan when I get a duty charge When we say 'buy here, in Britain' we mean buy the stuff that is already on the island, with duty paid and the price fixed and clear. But you know that, you just enjoy pretending brexiteers think we grow our own British Bananas 🍌🇬🇧

I think some do - certainly the packaging in supermarkets might suggest people are taken in by another union flag.

This is a fictional version of what is happening. Good British businesses are dying as their export markets have become unviable.

Indeed. It’s buying into propaganda and acceptance of a truly corrupt government. It’s ignoring the ‘negativity’ of the 150,000 potentially avoidable deaths. It’s very much Little England mentality where as long as ‘I’m alright’ then that’s fine.

We’ve long been privileged enough to be able to source local produce. Much is free to us - but I’m acutely aware that it’s free because we’re sufficiently resourced to afford a house in a group of villages where people raise chickens and grow vegetables ‘for fun’. We have a small orchard. We have Goodwood cheeses and meats available locally. We have Isle of white tomatoes and garlic that haven’t travelled too far. We have locally caught fish and seafood delivered in a refrigerated van.

I think that’s excellent....... but......of course that is out of budget for most people. The state pension doesn’t tend to run to lobster and most young families can’t afford to pay £4.80 for a Molecomb Blue, that their turn their noses up at. I also think it’s a pretty dull diet without imported goods and European foods. I want oranges. I want Sancerre. I want Parmesan. I want olives.

@tangerinelollipop

ability in this country is not nationalism

There's nothing wrong with wanting your own country to succeed and do well

It was doing well before Brexit. It is nationalism to only want your country to do well. To cheer at problems in other nations and draw our trade and humanitarian drawbridges up. It is devastating many industries. It is driving hatred and insularity.

Bitter ex pats on the threads these days are the only ones left bashing Britain now. Thank goodness. That is definitely progress.

Here is a basic article on January trade figures www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56370690

The key issue is:
Exports to EU -40%
Imports from EU -28%

Accountancy firm KPMG pointed to Brexit as the likely culprit for the plunge in trade between the UK and the EU. In contrast, the UK's trade with non-EU countries grew by 1.7% in January. This is exactly what the remain campaign warned - we would lose a big chunk of EU trade and it would be replaced by a very small amount of new trade. This will inevitably have a big economic impact and Britain will be poorer.

Certain sectors have been very badly hammered - especially food and drink, affecting farmers and producers: london.eater.com/2021/3/24/22348477/brexit-food-supply-cheese-chocolate-whisky-exports-uk While decreased need for goods used in restaurants and bars stemming from the Covid-19 pandemic is a factor, the Food and Drink Federation (FDF) attributed the bulk of the decline to red tape and attendant costs introduced by Brexit. The government will try to hide behind the pandemic but Brexit is the real issue according to the industry.