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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules

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RedToothBrush · 09/03/2021 15:43

Where we are:

On 1st January the EU started to apply checks on all goods from the UK coming into the Union.

However the UK decided to take a slower route to this, and planned that on the 1st April the UK we would be carrying out Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant EU imports like meat and eggs.

Then on 1 July we'd implement a full customs check on all goods arriving into the UK from EU member states.

Obviously we've struggled with exports as we weren't ready for this and its fucked business. But ultimately the import side of things has yet to hit the shit fan still.

It sounds like there is likely to be issues with imports of food in particular, so there is talk of delaying our plan of checks until later in the day. There is concern that the reopening of pubs and restuarants which will up demands of imports occuring at the same time as checks are put in place is likely to be 'problematic'.

Remember we get 2/3 of fruit, veg and cheese from the EU. And half our wine. And to date these largely have only been affected by haulage issues NOT UK customs issues...

You might want to keep that in mind.

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TatianaBis · 31/03/2021 21:31

Agreed @mrslaughan but it's the national reaction that should concern the Tories.

Their response to Black Lives Matter is: No They Don't.

Peregrina · 31/03/2021 21:32

Why are you bothered about the EU Clavinova? We have left, you have got your Brexit.

I was astounded by the report about race. I am quite sure that would not be how black, brown and mixed race saw it.

mrslaughan · 31/03/2021 21:44

Especially hot on the heals of the maternal mortalityrate report - what was it? If you were coloured you were 4 times more likely to die in childbirth. Some of the accounts from mothers who had near misses - were harrowing and deeply concerning.

@TatianaBis I am trying not to contemplate what this means at home - I already thought we could be in for a "difficult" summer - this has just ratcheted it up. It's all very scary - but also desperately sad. I have long come to realise that I grew up in a far more egalitarian society- something the UK is a long way away from, and vested interests are fighting to keep it that way.

ListeningQuietly · 31/03/2021 21:49

So
it turns out that the reporting of the race report this morning was grossly misleading
as became clear when it was released at lunchtime

and
Cressida Dick has defended Kate Cambridge attending the Sarah Everard vigil because it was "work"
and yet it was CLEARLY personal
as was her letter to the family

when will we start holding liars to account in this country?

Peregrina · 31/03/2021 22:29

But here for the Brexiters are some bonuses.

mathanxiety · 01/04/2021 04:55

Your comment would be relevant if the UK was a wonderful place for poc to live and work in, with no barriers to success in any field, @Clavinova, and no shameful history of deporting people who arrived aboard the Windrush and other ships of her era.

TheElementsSong · 01/04/2021 07:18

Why are you bothered about the EU Clavinova? We have left, you have got your Brexit.

Because it needs to be the 🐿 squirrel 🐿 for ever and ever and ever and ever...

PawFives · 01/04/2021 08:15

@ListeningQuietly couldn’t agree more, but it appears we’re all being gaslighted. Sometimes I wonder if there’s some sort of bet about what they can get away with

DGRossetti · 01/04/2021 10:07

[quote notrub]@DGRossetti

Your grasp of mathematics appears to be rather weak.

There were 530k deaths in 2019
0.1% of that figure is 530, NOT 10k[/quote]
Your grasp of English seems equally as weak. I did clearly state they were madey-uppy figures for illustration.

Pay attention at the back.

HappyWinter · 01/04/2021 13:08

Especially hot on the heals of the maternal mortality rate report - what was it? If you were coloured you were 4 times more likely to die in childbirth. Some of the accounts from mothers who had near misses - were harrowing and deeply concerning.

It's horrifying. I remember reading similar statistics about the US, I was horrified to find out it was similar in the UK. There are some issues with maternity care overall, the UK has quite a high stillbirth rate and there have been issues at specific hospitals like Furness and Shrewsbury. I had a very near miss where they didn't react quickly enough to deliver and my baby nearly died. It's awful to think that it is even worse if you are BAME. The maternity report and the race report makes me feel like as a country we are going backwards, not forwards.

Peregrina · 01/04/2021 13:51

I think what the Government has shown us in the last few days is that Black Lives Don't Matter.

And please no one use the excuse that I heard someone use - that Johnson and his Government aren't racist because we have a Chancellor and Home Secretary whose forebears were from the Indian sub continent. These are the "but we don't mean you" exceptions that the racists come out with when challenged.

ListeningQuietly · 01/04/2021 14:08

I knew he was anti Brexit
but what a legend
www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/01/john-le-carre-chronicler-of-englishness-died-irish-son-reveals

DGRossetti · 01/04/2021 15:51

[quote ListeningQuietly]I knew he was anti Brexit
but what a legend
www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/01/john-le-carre-chronicler-of-englishness-died-irish-son-reveals[/quote]
Legend.

FrankieStein402 · 01/04/2021 17:22

If you were coloured you were 4 times more likely to die in childbirth
This was actually one of the bits where the report might have made sense - ie it's not racism in the NHS service provision but in the community/poverty/nutrition such that irrespective of the service, outcomes would be poorer.

Or were there examples of racism in the NHS that were pointed to as the cause? Given the makeup of the workforce that doesn't make sense.

FrankieStein402 · 01/04/2021 17:29

Back to #BrexitBonus - R4 'inside science' today was talking about the 'good news' of the UK having negotiated access to Horizon being negated by the prospect of the costs coming out of the science budget.

(Previously they came out of the EU contribution - so its something like a 20%/2bn cut in the science budget - a government thank you to the scientists.)

Peregrina · 01/04/2021 18:17

But the budgets are not fixed . Johnson and cronies will find money for nuclear weapons, but won't find money for science and can get away with this because we let them.

HannibalHayes · 01/04/2021 19:31

And now UK Shellfish companies want to sue the government.

Winning all round...

HannibalHayes · 01/04/2021 19:38

Scottish dog food firm relocates to France.

I'm sure Cutnpasteova will be on shortly to tell us that someone in Wiltshire has hired a part time dish washer so all is wonderful...

ListeningQuietly · 01/04/2021 19:57

Its odd
in this whole game since June 2016
we have had a series of drawn out phoney wars
interspersed with days of panic.

Late December / early January was the most recent panic.
WE are now back into a phoney war
intil
(a) the UK starts to obey the import rules in the Oven Ready deal
(b) businesses start opening up with empty shelves
BUT
The French / German bollocks up with their vaccines
is delaying things
cos even travellers like me ain't gonna book a gite in an unvaccinated town

so its this odd limbo where blame can be sprayed out
AND
UK Gov are gaslighting and destroying liberties while Starmer checks his bundle index

DGRossetti · 01/04/2021 21:07

Pay attention.

Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules
Peregrina · 01/04/2021 23:14

That's lost on me DGR although I can see that the Screw at the microphone is really a screwdriver.

BlackeyedSusan · 01/04/2021 23:21

Screws are going to get screwed

ListeningQuietly · 02/04/2021 09:14

We are all screwed

but luckily I'm a posidrive Grin

LouiseCollins28 · 02/04/2021 11:40

Love that cartoon DGR Good find. Simple enough to be about my level lol

ListeningQuietly · 02/04/2021 12:27

Chris Grey very good again this week.
chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/
Sadly I agree with his assessment that the Westminster Government will get a lot worse before it gets better.