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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules

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RedToothBrush · 09/03/2021 15:43

Where we are:

On 1st January the EU started to apply checks on all goods from the UK coming into the Union.

However the UK decided to take a slower route to this, and planned that on the 1st April the UK we would be carrying out Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant EU imports like meat and eggs.

Then on 1 July we'd implement a full customs check on all goods arriving into the UK from EU member states.

Obviously we've struggled with exports as we weren't ready for this and its fucked business. But ultimately the import side of things has yet to hit the shit fan still.

It sounds like there is likely to be issues with imports of food in particular, so there is talk of delaying our plan of checks until later in the day. There is concern that the reopening of pubs and restuarants which will up demands of imports occuring at the same time as checks are put in place is likely to be 'problematic'.

Remember we get 2/3 of fruit, veg and cheese from the EU. And half our wine. And to date these largely have only been affected by haulage issues NOT UK customs issues...

You might want to keep that in mind.

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borntobequiet · 27/03/2021 16:38

Might be as low as a 20%

Well that’s OK then, obviously.

Clavinova · 27/03/2021 16:47

Might be as low as a 20%

potential loss of 20%.

Scottish independence is doomed to fail then?

www.gov.uk/government/news/scotlands-biggest-trading-partner-continues-to-be-the-uk

Peregrina · 27/03/2021 16:48

I recall from the dim and distant past that at one time Rees-Mogg thought that a second Referendum to confirm the result would be good. Then when he managed to get Johnson by the bollocks and got his as good as No Deal through and maybe realised that the public mood was not necessarily as receptive as he thought (still no £350 million for the NHS) he shut up.

Peregrina · 27/03/2021 16:51

potential loss of 20%.
Scottish independence is doomed to fail then?

If you say so! The normal Brexiter answer is to tell those concerned to run half way across the world to do compensatory trade deals.

Clavinova · 27/03/2021 16:54

(still no £350 million for the NHS)

I reckon the vaccine rollout has won the government Brownie points instead.

Although - 2018;
Spending increases announced for NHS England’s budget mean that £20.5 billion more will be spent on it in 2023/24 than in 2018/19. That’s £394 million more a week by 2023/24.

fullfact.org/health/nhs-england-394-million-more/

DGRossetti · 27/03/2021 16:56

The clue to the fact that the figures floated about Scotlands economic situation being utter bollocks is in such plain sight, that it's understandable few see it.

(Much as the very few figures around the economics of Brexit were also clearly bollocks.)

Virtual Gin, Wine or Brew and a slice of virtual Cake for the first right answer Grin

JustAnotherPoster00 · 27/03/2021 17:38

Grin from the article:

Spain’s police force and authorities are expecting to deport 500 UK citizens within the first week, with targets already earmarked to be picked up and deported home, knowingly to the authorities not having the correct paperwork to remain.

global247news.com/2021/03/26/tears-flow-for-brits-as-they-head-home-to-avoid-being-deported-as-illegals-in-spain/

DGRossetti · 27/03/2021 18:46

[quote JustAnotherPoster00]Grin from the article:

Spain’s police force and authorities are expecting to deport 500 UK citizens within the first week, with targets already earmarked to be picked up and deported home, knowingly to the authorities not having the correct paperwork to remain.

global247news.com/2021/03/26/tears-flow-for-brits-as-they-head-home-to-avoid-being-deported-as-illegals-in-spain/[/quote]
Given the (in)famous British distrust of foreign languages, I can't see many Brits staying under the radar for long.

Peregrina · 27/03/2021 18:56

I reckon the vaccine rollout has won the government Brownie points instead.

Absolutely right for once. Even though it's due primarily to scientific endeavor and the NHS. It's a good job Johnson didn't put it in the hands of Dido Harding. The £37 billion wasted on the failed track and trace that she is in charge of would have provided the £350 million a week for the NHS for just over two years. Never mind the high death toll, never mind the children who have had their education damaged, never mind last year's GCSE and A level debacles - non of this matters to the BeLeavers - he managed not to bodge the vaccine roll out. So he got lucky and it's his Falkland's factor.

Peregrina · 27/03/2021 19:03

So British tax dodgers in Spain risk getting deported? It sounds like something of an unlooked for bonus of Brexit.

Peregrina · 27/03/2021 19:08

However, I do know British residents in Spain, who do speak the language, work there, have settled there to bring up their families who are half Spanish, and will almost certainly be OK. But they had enough sense to sort out their paperwork, even though it was a hassle which wasn't necessary before.

mathanxiety · 27/03/2021 21:34

www.dfa.ie/our-role-policies/trade-and-promotion/our-trade-role/
The sad story of the Cheshire cheese maker and the government's pitiful ignorance of trade realities stand in contrast to Ireland's organised, holistic approach to promoting trade and investment.

mathanxiety · 27/03/2021 22:31

I read the articles -
Taoiseach Enda Kenny said last year’s 1916 commemorations brought about a newfound respect for the tricolour.

2017 saw a newfound respect for a flag that has been representing Irish aspirations for 173 as of 2021.

The main thrust of the flag issuing and talks in schools from NCOs or officers of the Irish Army seems to have been education on flag etiquette.

www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/fifteen-facts-about-the-irish-flag-for-its-170th-birthday-1.2362893

vera99 · 28/03/2021 05:27

But the flags and the statues are ok that's the main thing. Goe off humming Land of Hope and Glory....

Peregrina · 28/03/2021 07:48

You have to wonder at this Government's priorities - fly flags and protect statues, increase nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, there is record use of food banks, danger of violence breaking out again in N Ireland, brexit damaging trade with our nearest neighbours with Government ministers which haven't the foggiest about what to do about it. Fiddling while Rome burns springs to mind.

TheElementsSong · 28/03/2021 09:15

🐿 The 52-Hz whale is possibly the loneliest creature on the planet. Its song was first detected in 1989, and in the subsequent 30 years has been tracked in an annual migratory loop in the Pacific Ocean. The whale’s call is unique, being higher than that of other known whale species. Year after year, the 52-Hz whale swims in its lonely route, singing its solo song to the wide ocean… and never receiving an answer.

Similarly, the Brexitannian superorganism flounders its way around the globe, gaudily draped in its unique red-white-and-blue plumage and with its characteristic mating cries of "DontYouKnowWhoWeAre" and "BullyingPunishment" being full of indignant rage that nobody wants to shag it. 🐿

KonTikki · 28/03/2021 10:20

The increase in our nuclear arsenal is a sad result of real politik.
The Chinese are increasing theirs.
Although this is all sadly going in the "wrong direction", I do feel it necessary to appreciate the full malevolence of the current Chinese State.
I travelled through Xingiang back in the noughties and even then was aware of the tensions between the ethnic Uighurs and the Han Chinese.

DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 11:45

In one of the groups I frequent, someone commented on the returning Spanish pensionistas:

Friggin' Brits turning up, keeping to themselves, sticking to their weird food, skiving their taxes, not learning the language and poncing off the health service. ...Imagine if they turned up here...

Peregrina · 28/03/2021 13:39

I read a facebook posting where one British immigrant on the Costas was complaining that the British supermarket was running out of food. Shock horror, they might have to eat Spanish food!

Now, is that really a hardship? The only thing I don't agree with myself is the way they eat their main meal very late - just before bedtime for me. I am much happier with the Dutch and Scandinavians habits who tend to eat restaurant meals early evening.

DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 13:46

@Peregrina

I read a facebook posting where one British immigrant on the Costas was complaining that the British supermarket was running out of food. Shock horror, they might have to eat Spanish food!

Now, is that really a hardship? The only thing I don't agree with myself is the way they eat their main meal very late - just before bedtime for me. I am much happier with the Dutch and Scandinavians habits who tend to eat restaurant meals early evening.

Si no te gusta estar aquí, ¿por qué no te vas a la mierda a casa?

Reading that I can see why DF had so many Spanish friends (my Godmother was Basque ....)

Clavinova · 28/03/2021 15:31

The main thrust of the [Irish] flag issuing and talks in schools from NCOs or officers of the Irish Army seems to have been education on flag etiquette.

Flag etiquette lessons, eh? I might pass that suggestion on to the Department for Education. Wink

Flagfest - although Joe Biden looks tiny sitting in that chair next to
European Council president Charles Michel. Quite comical really;

euobserver.com/coronavirus/151367

contrast to Ireland's organised, holistic approach to promoting trade and investment.

Great - Ireland can start to plug the gap in EU finances after the UK's departure. A bit of ground to make up first:

Ireland has become a small net contributor to the EU Budget for the first time since it joined the bloc in 1973.

In 2014, the last year for which complete data is available, the country paid €168m more to the EU than it received in grants and payments.

"Ireland has been a significant net beneficiary from the EU Budget since accession in 1973," the briefing material states.

"However, 2014 represented the first time that Ireland was a (small) net contributor."

www.independent.ie/business/irish/ireland-contributes-more-money-than-it-gets-to-eu-for-first-time-34815450.html

Money squabbles already;

Nov 2020 -
Ireland could lose out as France lays claim to most of €5bn Brexit compensation fund.

www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/ireland-could-lose-out-as-france-lays-claim-to-most-of-5bn-brexit-compensation-fund-1.4419405

26 March 2021 -
German constitutional court stops ratification of EU recovery fund.

BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany’s constitutional court said on Friday that the president may not sign off on legislation ratifying the European Union’s Recovery Fund as long as it was looking into an emergency appeal against the debt-financed investment plan.

The statement by Germany’s highest court, after both chambers of parliament ratified legislation this week, did not give a time frame when a legal decision could be expected.

Opponents of the EU’s recovery plan, including the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party and a group called Citizens’ Will Alliance, argue that it violates European treaties by opening the door to joint borrowing by member states.

Finance Minister Olaf Scholz, a backer of the project, has said the Fund marks the first step towards a “fiscal union” in which member states will transfer more powers to Brussels away from national capitals.

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-eu-debt/german-constitutional-court-stops-ratification-of-eu-recovery-fund-idUSKBN2BI2FR

Peregrina · 28/03/2021 15:35

Why are you highlighting EU issues Clavinova? You have got your Brexit now - the details of what the EU does should be secondary.

ListeningQuietly · 28/03/2021 15:42

English cheese sales to the USA are clearly having problems too
www.murrayscheese.com/applebys-cheshire
(shame because that store is where I buy proper cheese for Statesiders)

DGRossetti · 28/03/2021 15:48

Apparently some brain cells are busiest after death.

scitechdaily.com/zombie-cells-research-shows-some-genes-come-to-life-in-the-brain-after-we-die/