Westministers : Saving the Union

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Apparently we need a tunnel. Just like we needed the £53 million failed Garden Bridge.

Nice little earner for anyone involved.

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Taking up a point from the last thread: Johnson is paid £150,000 a year. There is no way in heaven that he can be said to earn this. If it was a normal job he would have been given the sack yet again.

Which union?

Thanks for the new thread.

Apparently we need a tunnel.

I'm surprised ToryBrexitannia didn't simply suggest going by aeroplane to "avoid" the "sea border" If you're a Leaver, presumably you don't realise that national borders go up into outer space and down into the Earth's core

Michael Duggan on how the EU is "stealing" UK business. The clowns leading Brexit really did believe their own propaganda, didn't they, that 'We held all the cards'? The pity of it is, is that it's not Gove, Johnson, Davis, Redwood, Truss, Farage etc. who will suffer but ordinary folk. (Yes, some of whom were taken in by the above.)

I think the reunification of Ireland is more likely to happen than the tunnel being built.

The attention will be on Scotland for the next few months. It's going to be amusing to watch Gov scuttling around, patching up the damage done every time Johnson opens his mouth.

pMK

Financial services following fishing under the Brexit Bus.

Now this one should please Clavinova because it's the USA which is winning much of the business and not wholly the EU.

I would add though, that if Johnson and chums had been better negotiators, and had negotiated in good faith from the off, instead of all this threatening to walk out, they might have got a better deal (of sorts) for the City. But they chose not to pursue the policy of sensible negotiation.

Bookend cats with potatoes chirping behind them.

A tunnel or bridge to NI is not wanted in Scotland . Quite apart from the little matter of the munitions dump to get over/under, if they chose the other, shorter, route, the road infrastructure through a place of of outstanding beauty is not adequate

We also don't want the money - even on a feasibility study - to be used as a justification for the Union because WM is supposedly spending it on our behalf

Like others, I don't see how it "solves" the problem of the border in the Irish Sea What are they going to do? Stop in the middle and do the checks and paperwork there

Yorkshire Bylines on the absurdity of trying to join the Trans Pacific Partnership. In reality, I suspect it's because they hope that the USA will go back in and it will be an English speaking dominated union so they can pretend they have got the Empire back. The last sentence sums it up: The appeal of TPP for Brexiters seems only to be that it doesn’t have the word “European” in its title.

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prettybird - Bookend cats with potatoes chirping behind them
Are the cats waiting for the potatoes to hatch

Interesting Yorkshire Bylines article.

The demise of London as a financial centre was entirely to be predicted, given the hard Brexit that our blinkered leaders followed.

But I'm sure that Brexit cheerleaders will, with their "Alice in Wonderland" interpretation of statistics (starting with "52% is a massive majority and the 48% don't exist/matter" will pick up on the 12% saying it would make London stronger. and claim that they will the ones who will be proved correct and also that as many as "a third of UK-based respondents think London will be the leading centre in five years’ time." as further evidence that it wasn't a mistake and that the majority of respondents are "wrong"

PMK as ever many thanks Red & all contributors

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PMK and thanks prettybird - Bookend cats with potatoes chirping behind them Are the cats waiting for the potatoes to hatch

Oops - hadn't noticed the Autocarrot

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PaintMarKing in honour of my ongoing living room revamp. I ache in places I didn't know I had, and still have half of it to do.

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My DF would tell you from Italy that talk of bridges tends to precede changes of leadership.

They've been planning one from Italy to Sicily for over a century. Guess when it's most "discussed" ?

My DF would tell you from Italy that talk of bridges tends to precede changes of leadership.

I would be tempted to say Bring it on, but then it would be a case of be careful what you wish for, with the mediocrities currently representing the Tory Party.

@prettybird as we have seen with HS2 and Brexit carpark , this government does not give a flying fuck about areas of outstanding beauty, places of ecological and archaeological importance. As always with Johnson it's look to what they do, not what they say.
All I can say is under devolution I hope that Scotland has alot of say over planning etc and can't be railroaded like in the are which I live in.