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Westminstenders: Move Your Business To The EU

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RedToothBrush · 24/01/2021 14:46

The government is advising people to move their businesses to the EU to avoid UK taxation and red tape.

Why would you do this?

For the interests of the uk?

Or is it about power WITHIN the uk?

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Clavinova · 27/01/2021 14:07

SabrinaThwaite

What is the name of the anonymous company?

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 14:15

Tories are in an interesting pickle.

Because of their spectacular incompetence, and a death rate that could be seen from the next solar system, it's rather nobbled the more aggressive "get 'em back to work school" cabal that's been part of the Boris bumble. They've lost a lot of clout. Which doesn't bode well for the man at the top when this is all done & dusted.

Gove has made himself pretty teflon on this, hasn't he ?

SabrinaThwaite · 27/01/2021 14:17

@Clavinova

SabrinaThwaite

What is the name of the anonymous company?

Why does it matter?

If loss of turnover was purely down to Covid the company wouldn’t need to relocate.

Peregrina · 27/01/2021 14:24

none of his children were born into poverty though. And their mothers are emancipated career women, earning, or capable of earning high salaries in their own right.

So you know how many children Johnson has do you Clavinova? Better tell the man himself, because he doesn't.

But I note you think that overpopulation is fine as long as you are wealthy. It's only the poor you don't want to breed.

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 14:28

@Peregrina

none of his children were born into poverty though. And their mothers are emancipated career women, earning, or capable of earning high salaries in their own right.

So you know how many children Johnson has do you Clavinova? Better tell the man himself, because he doesn't.

But I note you think that overpopulation is fine as long as you are wealthy. It's only the poor you don't want to breed.

But you need poor people to do the work.
DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 14:31

If loss of turnover was purely down to Covid the company wouldn’t need to relocate.

This.

After all, it's not like the UKs death rate would be a reason to relocate is it?

Oh, hang on ...

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 14:39

Already there's a move (they don't realise it yet) to cancel Brexit.

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/brexit-powder-keg-of-discontent-in-loyalist-communities-over-northern-ireland-protocol/27/01/

Discontent in loyalist communities is “growing” over the Northern Ireland protocol, a senior police officer has said. It comes as a unionist has called for co-operation with the Republic of Ireland to be frozen and work implementing the post-Brexit Northern Ireland Protocol to be abandoned.

Clavinova · 27/01/2021 14:48

TheElementsOfMedical - You were not a fan of Tony Blair then, who has four children himself? Wink

Blair: Single mothers 'piling up problems' in Britain's inner cities.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/blair-single-mothers-piling-up-problems-in-britain-s-inner-cities-529604.html

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 14:52

Snows pretty much disappeared here (Midlands). Tends to bring the squirrels out, I guess.

mrslaughan · 27/01/2021 14:56

@DGRossetti

The phrase hiding in plain sight springs to mind.
Well maybe that is why they are ignoring the growing evidence that Covid brings with it make infertility
prettybird · 27/01/2021 14:56

@Mistigri

The ECHR will remain an obstacle to the reinstatement of capital punishment for as long as NI remains in the Union.
But the ECHR is nothing to do with the EU Confused

But is your comment because being a signatory to the ECHR underpins the GFA?

prettybird · 27/01/2021 15:03

@Jason118

Very apt given the thread title - more winning for UK plc
That haulier is just following UK Government advice and setting up in the EU. Wink

Brexit cheerleaders should be applauding him for doing as he was told Grin

prettybird · 27/01/2021 15:05

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Westminstenders: Move Your Business To The EU
Clavinova · 27/01/2021 15:07

Indications of progress with the teething problems here;

GT Seafoods, Peterhead
Gr8 news from the 2 main hauliers this morning that some trucks arrived in BSM [Boulogne-sur-Mer] this morning from PD yesterday and all custom cleared and delivered, I’m sure some issues will arise again next week but hopefully we past the worst and have sussed out the new way of working.
12:45 PM · Jan 16, 2021 from Methlick, Scotland

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 15:21

But is your comment because being a signatory to the ECHR underpins the GFA?

When Cameron (remember him) was blathering on about a "British Bill of Rights", there was a very scholarly article in the printed Times (which I stopped taking in 2010 or 2011) which dug deep into the implications of seceding from the ECHR.

It started with the general optics of the UK abandoning a treaty that it wrote. Which is mere soft stuff.

It then asked a slew of experts as to the legal an international implications. They were unanimous in noting that the GFA had been specifically drafted to assume both Ireland and the UK would remain signatories. So that was the first hurdle. They then noted that while not explicit, membership was implied in a lot of international treaties the UK has signed since 1954.

www.iiea.com/brexit/brexit-the-good-friday-agreement-and-the-european-convention-on-human-rights/

Seems to summarise it nicely.

So England, Wales and Scotland could be easily removed from the ECHR. But Northern Ireland has to remain. And that's now knowing that the US has "Brexit, Ireland" on a 24 hour Google alert.

MrsMauryBallstein · 27/01/2021 15:37

twitter.com/BruceReuters/status/1354389113089241092?s=20

Brexit - our gift to New York clearing houses....

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 15:43

@MrsMauryBallstein

twitter.com/BruceReuters/status/1354389113089241092?s=20

Brexit - our gift to New York clearing houses....

The comments pretty much sum it up.

from 2017 www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-40258449

I bet the squirrels have fucked off now.

ListeningQuietly · 27/01/2021 16:10

The trouble with losing City / Finance jobs is the infrastructure they take with them

  • cafes
  • restaurants
  • clothes shops
  • health and beauty shops
  • nurseries and aupairs
  • taxis

Friends who live near Canary Wharf say its looking VERY bleak VERY long term

Clavinova · 27/01/2021 16:12

The comments pretty much sum it up.

From your link;
Rival financial centres like Frankfurt and Paris would love to get their hands on the business and the jobs that would bring.

So, giving more trade to Wall Street benefits Frankfurt and Paris?

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 16:14

@ListeningQuietly

The trouble with losing City / Finance jobs is the infrastructure they take with them
  • cafes
  • restaurants
  • clothes shops
  • health and beauty shops
  • nurseries and aupairs
  • taxis

Friends who live near Canary Wharf say its looking VERY bleak VERY long term

So another of Thatchers legacies that wasn't shit pissed away then.

I can remember what a wasteland docklands was in the 70s and 80s.

I can also remember when the LDDC attracted interest from around the world (especially the EEC) as the way to do public/private infrastructure projects.

I reckon by 2024, everything Thatcher left that was decent will be gone.

Peregrina · 27/01/2021 16:18

Brexiters must be very pleased - those overpaid bankers are going to lose their jobs. It doesn't matter where they lose them to.

Johnson really has excelled himself - when Maggie Thatcher wrecked heavy industry she did at least encourage the service industries.

ListeningQuietly · 27/01/2021 16:21

DGR
I used to regularly walk through the Whooping Tunnel as a kid.
From The long Good Friday
to Canary Wharf was astounding
and its now all at risk

then again .... Loft Apartments Grin

DGRossetti · 27/01/2021 16:21

@Peregrina

Brexiters must be very pleased - those overpaid bankers are going to lose their jobs. It doesn't matter where they lose them to.

Johnson really has excelled himself - when Maggie Thatcher wrecked heavy industry she did at least encourage the service industries.

It's not dissimilar to salting the land, really, is it ?

Britannia delenda est appears to have been the clarion call of the Tories. Maybe they should have kept Latin after all.

Clavinova · 27/01/2021 16:35

Positive news here;

Jan 15 2021
Forbes Silicon Valley Shifts To London In U.K. Tech Boom.

Undeterred by Brexit or the Covid-19 pandemic, technology firms in London attracted $10.5 billion in venture capital money last year, a new record for the U.K. and Europe.

www.forbes.com/sites/oliverwilliams1/2021/01/15/silicon-valley-shifts-to-london-in-uk-tech-boom/

Nov 2020 -
Japanese bank SMBC invests £22.4m into OakNorth.
One of the world's biggest financial institutes has backed the London-based lender.

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