Westminstenders: Move Your Business To The EU

[RedToothBrush]

The government is advising people to move their businesses to the EU to avoid UK taxation and red tape.

Why would you do this?

For the interests of the uk?

Or is it about power WITHIN the uk?

mrslaughan
I heard that interview Clav - he didn't say the investment was going ahead - he said they weren't shutting the Macclesfield plant/distribution centre

I don't think I misunderstood - he said planning permission had already been granted.

Se this is an area where Trump got it right and Johnson / Sunak have it wrong
news.sky.com/story/covid-19-jobless-rate-hits-5-as-unemployment-rises-by-202-000-in-three-months-12199011

In the USA, unemployment payments have been boosted by enough that people can live.
So companies have laid off staff and will plan forwards.

In the UK, the Furlough scheme is keeping people tied to companies that may never return
but the Benefit allowance is so stingy that there is no option

Wine importer has been very clear he will be here next year (but in 10years)

Not in his original blog - reported by the London Economic here;

www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/this-thread-from-a-business-owner-sets-out-grim-reality-of-post-brexit-trade-problems/16/01/

An update to the Guardian article [wine importer];

[Note added 25 January 2021] HMRC told us after publication that it had a dedicated helpline for imports and exports. The number is 0300 322 9434. Businesses can also speak to an adviser online (webchat)

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/jan/18/a-multiple-pile-up-in-the-fog-wine-agents-fury-at-brexit-red-tape

HMRC told us after publication that it had a dedicated helpline for imports and exports. The number is 0300 322 9434. Businesses can also speak to an adviser online (webchat)
Go on then.
Call it.
Be prepared to wait a VERY long time
and to get a twonk reading the manual from the screen.

This was ALL predicted years ago.
Why has the UK Government not properly prepared and updated its systems, starting from the day that Theresa May decided to leave the Single Market

as the software and system upgrades would have been useful for the other 50% of trade as well
so NOT wasted effort either way

I will just point out that planning permission is not the same as investing the rest of the money - abs as anyone in business knows - these things take awhile. Indeed very good friends who are property developers(v small scale) have just got planning permission on 6 houses - abs aren't planning on doing anything now for at least a couple of years....., that was not the plan when they put in for planning permission....

A bit like the granted planning permission for 400,000 new homes that the developers have not yet built

In 1962, the Tanganyika laughter epidemic broke out starting at a girls’ boarding school in what is now Tanzania, and spreading to surrounding schools and villages. The symptoms, in addition to uncontrollable laughing, included fainting, flatulence, respiratory problems, rashes, crying and screaming

This sounds remarkably like a normal day’s home schooling around here. Except nobody has had a rash so far

ListeningQuietly
Go on then.
Call it.
Be prepared to wait a VERY long time

I've just called the number. Short recorded message - I got through to a real person within 40-50 seconds. I feel a bit guilty for wasting their time.

I'll believe you
but it does not take away from the fact that a helpline 26 days after the event
should not be needed

According to the wine importer, the problem he had was a minor coding error (HMRC's fault) but this was easily rectified by HMRC when he spoke to them - these things happen.

I wonder how the families of those 100k+ people feel when BJ spouts his bullshit

@Clavinova

According to the wine importer, the problem he had was a minor coding error (HMRC's fault) but this was easily rectified by HMRC when he spoke to them - these things happen.

Read it again. Properly.

A fairly brutal assessment
edition.cnn.com/2021/01/26/uk/uk-covid-19-pandemic-response-intl-gbr/index.html

Brutal=truthful and accurate?

@Clavinova

According to the wine importer, the problem he had was a minor coding error (HMRC's fault) but this was easily rectified by HMRC when he spoke to them - these things happen.

From Daniel Lambert’s Twitter thread:

The coding error has been a problem with chief for decades I was advised. I was then told if you enter data into certain boxes & you then remove the data because it’s in the wrong place you need to reset that box by press control F7. This information is not in any manuals. 6/22

Secondly the Tariff codes for an EU declaration can only be enter in one part of Box 44 on #chief (at item level) not Header Level. The advise on HMRC website didn’t say that and has now been updated directly because of my issue. 7/22

So a known problem for years, but never actually fixed?

And still ignoring:

Now bearing in mind pre-Brexit I paid nothing on EU customs declarations and now that bill is over £150 per consignment, this cost is going to be passed on. But secondly the shortage of trucks willing to make the journey is also putting huge pressure on the supply chain. 13/22

And lastly:

I think it’s time this government start apologising for the mess that Brexit is causing to the wider U.K. economy, and start putting things right or move over and let the adults take over. Ends. 22/22

ListeningQuietly
Read it again. Properly.

Last week you told me to Look at a map !!!! When I asked you why you ran off.

SabrinaThwaite

In his radio interview he said HMRC were very helpful.

Clav
The software problems with CHIEF should and could have been tested YEARS ago.
They should and could have been rectified YEARS ago.

When the C88 was introduced there was 3 month parallel run.
That could have been done in late 2020 on the non EU trade
but it wasn't

I cannot remember which map I suggested you look at
but I suspect you didn't

It's interesting how we have descended from 'once we are out we can start to see the benefits' to 'I got through on the helpline straightaway'. How gaslit are we all?

In his radio interview he said HMRC were very helpful.
I speak to HMRC pretty much every week
and over 90% of their staff are very helpful
BUT
their job is made MUCH MUCH harder by the blithering incompetence of elected leaders
who know little and care less
about business

In his radio interview he said HMRC were very helpful.

I'd be helpful too if I knew the customer's problem was caused by a long-standing coding error that my organisation had spent years not bothering to fix. I'd be bloody cringing with embarrassment and falling over myself to be helpful.

You haven't addressed the cost issue, surprise, surprise.

Meanwhile warehousing operators in the Netherlands are doing very well out of Brexit. So much winning!

@Jason118

It's interesting how we have descended from 'once we are out we can start to see the benefits' to 'I got through on the helpline straightaway'. How gaslit are we all?

Hear that sound ?

It's goalposts moving through the air ...

It's goalposts moving through the air ...
Not the badgers this time then