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Westminstenders: Going, going, cummings

995 replies

RedToothBrush · 13/11/2020 18:36

As expected he's fucking off and leaving everyone else to pick up the pieces in January. But it does look like he was eventually shown the door and left with a cardboard box. As he should have been months ago.

This has nothing whatsoever to do with Johnson needing an image change, like the shape shifting creep he is, to one that fits more with the incoming Biden Administration. In other words hes got some serious sucking up to do...

... Meanwhile in Brexit land we are going into yet another final week of talks.

Many expect Cummings departure to signal 'the cave in'. The Eu say we havent moved enough and the uk say the EU wants us to do all the moving... Except the EU have done lots of moving. Barnier is still looking for a groundsman to level his field to play. We have yet to work out we aren't Canada and distance is important to trade.

Of course if we don't get a deal, that Pfizer vaccine in Germany that we want, might be hit with delays and extra costs we just can't afford.

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DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 10:36

I thought "Not I" was a reference to the classic Little Red Hen fairy tale

That's what I heard in my head. Only it echoed.

A lot Grin

Best keep off that thread - there is going to be too much deliberate ignorance for me to want to be nice for the rest of today.

bellinisurge · 18/11/2020 10:54

The idiot/dick head count is mercifully small on there.
Still a few thinking it's exactly the same as lockdown problems and they were fiiiiiine so this will be fiiiiiiine.

DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 10:56

@bellinisurge

The idiot/dick head count is mercifully small on there. Still a few thinking it's exactly the same as lockdown problems and they were fiiiiiine so this will be fiiiiiiine.
The day is young.
TokyoSushi · 18/11/2020 11:10

Ooh, Starmer not restoring the whip to Corbyn. Interesting to see what happens next...

Pan2 · 18/11/2020 11:11

When I looked on the food thread, there were 114 votes and one third of them thought the OP (Not I..) was being unreasonable......there's a fair few of them then..

bellinisurge · 18/11/2020 11:13

Really @TokyoSushi , that's good news. Which I called last night because I'm a smart arse.
Stop him setting up some Bullshit "movement "

TokyoSushi · 18/11/2020 11:16

@bellinisurge

Really *@TokyoSushi* , that's good news. Which I called last night because I'm a smart arse. Stop him setting up some Bullshit "movement "
Yep just breaking now everywhere. Agreed it's a very good decision, whether his 'comrades' will split off or not remains to be seen.
bellinisurge · 18/11/2020 11:17

@TokyoSushi , that's cheered me up no end. Fucking twat being put in his place.

TokyoSushi · 18/11/2020 11:18

[quote bellinisurge]@TokyoSushi , that's cheered me up no end. Fucking twat being put in his place. [/quote]
Agreed! Delighted to be the bearer of good news! (There's not much of it about!)

squid4 · 18/11/2020 11:30

God Labour need to get their act together. This is pathetic.

Glad I quit earlier in the year it was just getting too painful to be associated with. I'm exhausted and hopeless, but that's better than having hope and then this fucking idiocy destroying it again. In fact looking at it now I'm kind of baffled as to why I ever joined.

squid4 · 18/11/2020 11:31

Oh yeah, they had good policies, that was why. Hmm.

squid4 · 18/11/2020 11:35

gestures wildly at the tories selling off our country to their mates while presiding over one of the worse pandemic responses globally and steaming full ahead for a no deal brexit

Maybe... look thatway??!

bellinisurge · 18/11/2020 11:40

There are squirrel stories and there is crap that needs sorting. JC has made himself into the crap that needs sorting. And he's being sorted.

squid4 · 18/11/2020 11:49

Well his constituency clearly disagrees with your assessment of him, and why make a huge headline fight of something you know you can't win? Presumably the climbdown is because they don't have a legal leg to stand on... oh my god I can't believe I'm even bothering to type this on my one day off in 7, hospital drowning.

Labour have dropped in the polls with this. When Starmer focused on the tories, they drew level.

I'm not a labour party member and they certainly don't represent my values but I am very happy to join a progressive coalition to get the tories out by any means possible. This constant splintering is the opposite approach - it is doomed.

Clavinova · 18/11/2020 11:54

DGRossetti
Surprised we've not had a flying visit from someone who is just about to pop out.

Here I am - for a short while at least. Grin

John Redwood is rather odd - I agree. His open letter to Joe Biden was a draft - I don't think he's actually sent it yet.

Plus anything suggesting that our own Dear Boris was BFF with Charlie Elphicke

Obviously not BFF if Elphicke had to lobby another cabinet minister to speak to the PM on his behalf - don't BFF have a direct line?

"Cabinet minister 'lobbied Boris Johnson to help Charlie Elphicke.'
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/03/cabinet-minister-lobbied-boris-johnson-help-charlie-elphicke

JRM getting a Twitterpasting for quoting Rolf Harris? #CourtOfKingCaractacus

He wasn't quoting Rolf Harris - he was quoting from "The British Grenadiers" - a traditional marching song ... "It is most commonly heard today in the annual Trooping the Colour ceremony on Horse Guards Parade."

JC reinstated

He was only suspended for 19 days - ridiculously short period of time.

DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 11:59

Time to CnP

www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/brexit-india-nine-others-seek-concessions-for-lost-market-opportunities/article33102222.ece

With less than 50 days left for the Brexit transition period to end, India joined with nine nations at the World Trade Organisation (WTO) to raise concerns over the lack of clarity on how bilateral EU-UK trade will be treated in the absence of an agreement, and also demand compensatory concessions for the foreseen loss of market opportunities.

“A number of delegations intervened at the recent market access committee meeting at the WTO to express their concern over the uncertainty that still loomed over a EU-UK trade deal despite the Brexit transition deadline of December 31 fast approaching,” a Geneva-based trade official told BusinessLine.

Since the EU is the second largest trading partner of India and the UK is amongst the top European nations with which the country trades (next to Germany), any change in trading terms between the UK and the EU can substantially impact the Indian business community. At the moment, there is no clarity about the kind of trade arrangement that will be in place between the UK and the EU once the transition period ends.

Apart from India, the countries which called out for more clarity on UK-EU trade terms post-December 31, include Australia, Canada, China, Indonesia, Mexico, New Zealand, Paraguay, the US and Uruguay.

(contd)

DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 12:20

twitter.com/Collabblues/status/1329003765224116224

as usual surgically funny.

ListeningQuietly · 18/11/2020 13:03

Not happy that Corbyn allowed back into the party
highly amused that Starmer keeping him on the loony bench

LeClerc wants me to post on the Food thread.
get your own account sorted you honorary Frenchman

LOVING the NAO report
www.nao.org.uk/report/government-procurement-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/?slide=1
still trying to work out how many of them lurk on here

TheElementsOfMedical · 18/11/2020 13:12

Corbyn (or his acolytes) can't seem to help but make it all about himself, when he should be gracefully retiring fadingly to the backbenches. It's tedious that the media are now back to shrieking about him as the bogeyman to alarm the good citizens of Tunbridge Wells, when the whole country should be paying attention to the ToryBrexitannianNationalPlague ever-erupting shitshow.

Peregrina · 18/11/2020 15:03

Cummings features in the Beano, which did make me laugh.

TheABC · 18/11/2020 15:33

Apropos of the NAO report, I am happy to share The Good Law's statement on their scrutiny of Operation Moonshot.

goodlawproject.org/update/operation-moonshot-suing/

I am definitely going to contribute to their crowdfunder, at the end of the month.

TheABC · 18/11/2020 15:42

Praise, where it's due; the Tories are definitely aspirational about their green industrial revolution. Whilst I can't see a complete switchover by 2030, I think this announcement will accelerate it. The financial amounts involved are tiny (compared to, say, the HS2), but if it gets written into law, there will be a lot revisions along the way.

DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 15:49

Praise, where it's due; the Tories are definitely aspirational about their green industrial revolution.

Only because it's allows them to funnel even more of your and my tax pounds into their mates shonky schemes.

TheABC · 18/11/2020 16:04

Well, yes. @DGRossetti, that's a given. However, it had to be done and does acknowledge climate change to be real (unlike Trump). I can't see this iteration of the Tories lasting until 2030.

DGRossetti · 18/11/2020 16:10

@TheABC

Well, yes. *@DGRossetti*, that's a given. However, it had to be done and does acknowledge climate change to be real (unlike Trump). I can't see this iteration of the Tories lasting until 2030.
I'm not massively excited by electric cars per se.

And (as with HS2) there's this terrible myopia about the future. As if 2030 will be 2020 plus electric cars.

As we've seen with Covid, the seismic shifts in working patterns that look unlikely to revert to 2019 suggest there are a lot of moving parts and betting on one assuming all else will conveniently not change seems to be almost guaranteed to cause waste and a lot of false starts.

Electric cars are a tactical element in a strategy that I can't see yet.