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Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you

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RedToothBrush · 05/11/2020 19:22

Just waiting.

Talks between Frost and Barnier still unresolved issues. There are rumours but 'all without evidence' (the new in phrase on BBC news tonight) that the UK is waivering.

Less that two months to go.

And there is the small matter of what happens in the US than might influence events.

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SabrinaThwaite · 11/11/2020 10:52

And Siamese often get darker as they get older (and fatter - case in point).

Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you
Clavinova · 11/11/2020 10:56

So it’s OK for the UK Home Secretary to publicly suggest starving the Irish because “it was only a joke”?

Sorry, I was being flippant - ListeningQuietly was wrong about it being a joke, hence my remark. It was an observation about 'no-deal' and the potential queues at Dover etc. having an effect on Ireland - I thought you knew that. Did she even mention food specifically? I'm not sure she did. Priti Patel claims she was taken out of context in any case.

SabrinaThwaite · 11/11/2020 10:58

Priti Patel claims she was taken out of context in any case.

Well she would, wouldn’t she?

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:02

attempts by the UK media to dilute Mr. Biden's sense of Irishness probably won't help.

In fact I listened to 15 minutes of the Nick Clegg interview with Joe Biden (from 2018?) - Biden said he was a real "Anglophile" which was not easy for someone with Irish roots to admit - or words to that effect.

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:07

SabrinaThwaite
I like cute cats and delicious looking bread - hate frogs though.

prettybird · 11/11/2020 11:13

As an owner slave of Siamese cats, I did know that they were heat sensitive albinos Smile

Gratuitous picture of our current boys just because Wink

Westministenders: Its the waiting that kills you
DGRossetti · 11/11/2020 11:14

In fact I listened to 15 minutes of the Nick Clegg interview with Joe Biden (from 2018?) - Biden said he was a real "Anglophile" which was not easy for someone with Irish roots to admit - or words to that effect.

I wonder if any Irish posters could back that up ? Is being an "anglophile" compatible with being proud of an Irish heritage ? I'd say it is, and wouldn't necessarily mean much either way. Whereas Mr. Bidens recent - plain talking - over the GFA are much less ambiguous.

Also, if I were Mr. Biden I would be deeply offended that someone thought "anglophile" was synonymous with "willing to put up with shit from the UK". Which you weren't. So that's OK.

borntobequiet · 11/11/2020 11:16

What happened to BIgChoc by the way? Were you all fed up of reading about Germany? So much for the EU family.

Ha ha. Bitchiness worthy of a wedding or parking thread, well done.

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:18

"anglophile" - a person who is fond of or greatly admires England or Britain.

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:21

borntobequiet
I was being sarcastic.

prettybird · 11/11/2020 11:24

I agree DGR : I'm a Francophile. Doesn't mean I agree with its government's actions as it happens, I'm pretty supportive of Macron Confused It means I like the country and its culture Hmm nothing to do with its government Confused

Apileofballyhoo · 11/11/2020 11:27

I miss BigChoc and reading about Germany. I find it really interesting to read about how other countries are doing things. I'm sorry to hear you went through a bad patch BCF, if you're reading.

I often take long breaks from the nitty gritty of politics when my stress levels become too high and it leads to anxiety, which is something I have to be careful about as I have been in very poor mental health at times in my life.

The support on these threads for peace in Northern Ireland has been overwhelming.

Feel free to discuss Ireland's response to Covid-19 or any other internal policies, everyone in Ireland does. We love talking about politics. I feel no need to defend Irish politicians just because they're Irish politicians, or defend the government of Ireland just because they're the Irish government and I too am Irish, albeit with some British ancestry.

We could talk about the beef and dairy industry, or the housing/rental/homeless crisis, or the Irish language as a compulsory subject in schools and its demise as a native language, or the mix of public and private healthcare, or the dependence on tech and pharmaceutical companies in the economy, or the cost of the state pension age, or Golfgate and its implications, or if there are no secrets among friends, even official ones, or why more and more people are voting for or considering voting for Sinn Féin, or the mother and baby homes scandal, or the lack of public transport in rural Ireland, or if benefits are too high or too low, or if religion should be taught in schools, or if tax is too high or too low for employees and employers, or if the VAT rate should be increased or decreased, whether there should be a carbon tax or if it's unfair on those forced to commute by car due to the lack of affordable housing and suitable public transport, whether cronyism is a huge problem or not, whether fascism is on the rise, whether direct provision is working as a solution, whether carbon emissions are horrific, whether people should be allowed build homes on their own land or if single dwellings are destroying the landscape of rural Ireland, whether the government should have direct control of planning applications or it should go through the process in councils, whether there should be stiffer penalties for cutting hedgerows outside of permitted times, or should there be no time when it's not permitted, whether teachers and nurses get paid too much or not enough, or any other thing you wish. Might be a bit irrelevant on a Brexit thread though.

OchonAgusOchonO · 11/11/2020 11:31

@Clavinova

Peregrina So let me get this straight - we are in a transition period with a country I am not allowed to mention - but posters from that country (who don't live in this country/have never lived in this country) can join this board and post whatever they like - about Brexit, the UK government, track and trace, A-level exams...

What happened to BIgChoc by the way? Were you all fed up of reading about Germany? So much for the EU family.

Of course you are allowed to mention Ireland (or France or Germany or...). It would just be taken a little more seriously if it wasn't so obviously a squirrel.
TheElementsOfMedical · 11/11/2020 11:38

Loving the gratuitous cat pictures as a cat-lover and a molecular biologist Grin Further detail for interested parties: the Siamese cat tyrosinase mutation is a single nucleotide polymorphism (G>A) resulting in a missense mutation at amino acid 302 from glycine to arginine (G302R). Burmese cats, which have a more subtle pointing, have a different mutation (G227W).

My girl moggie is a tortoiseshell, and therefore genetically interesting in her own right (but you'll have to wait for another 🐿 for that story).

Oh, and before I forget... "Therefore, ToryBrexitannianNationalPlague is going wonderfully!" Wink

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:44

Might be a bit irrelevant on a Brexit thread though.

Yes, hopefully mathanxiety can follow her own advice and can stick to posting about US-UK trade negotiations in future - none of that nonsense about US taxes and obscure congressman we've never heard of.

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:44

congressmen

Clavinova · 11/11/2020 11:52

It would just be taken a little more seriously if it wasn't so obviously a squirrel.

Oh well.

TonMoulin · 11/11/2020 11:59

@Clavinova

borntobequiet I was being sarcastic.
No that was petty and low.
Clavinova · 11/11/2020 12:12

TonMoulin

What have you said to the posters who caused BigChoc to leave? Are they petty and low as well? Do you condone the other posts directed at me?

Shrillharridan · 11/11/2020 12:15

You really shouldn't feed squirrels you know

SabrinaThwaite · 11/11/2020 12:18

@TheElementsOfMedical

My old girl was a tortoiseshell too. I think their genetic mutation results in an overactive feistiness gene.

Apileofballyhoo · 11/11/2020 12:20

I wonder if any Irish posters could back that up ? Is being an "anglophile" compatible with being proud of an Irish heritage ?

Careful now DGR, you'll be poking at the cognitive dissonance.

OchonAgusOchonO · 11/11/2020 12:25

@Clavinova

ListeningQuietly The UK Home Secretary joked about starving the Irish out

As long as it was only a joke.

I do wonder why so many prominent critics of the government's coronavirus response have said we should close our borders like New Zealand. Have they not heard of the land bridge - what were they expecting Ireland to do?

It didn't sound like a joke at the time. She appeared to be deadly serious.
Motherof3Dragons · 11/11/2020 12:25

President-elect Biden and people close to him already reiterated multiple times on Irish tv/ radio, that Biden feels very close to Ireland and loves to visit again, as soon as possible. He visited Ireland in 2017 last and meet his Irish family.

They also said that the US government would not stand for any threat to the GFA. A clear indicator for the future trade negotiations with the UK.

When a BBC reporter wanted a word with him recently, Biden answered with a smile „The BBC? I am Irish“.

He is also very passionate about Irish poets and can recite more poems than any Irish person I know (the likely exception being President M. D. Higgins).

So, while he might be an „Anglophobe“, he stands firmly on the side of Ireland in this entire Brexit/ trade deal drama.

Motherof3Dragons · 11/11/2020 12:32
  • sorry a slight slip up there: I meant Anglophile of course 😅
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