Westminstenders: The Tunnel or Bridge

[RedToothBrush]

Apparently negotiations are in the black hole of the EU tunnel or should that be on the back of the fantasy of the Boris Bridge?

Another week closer to complete meltdown.

I'm guessing that our world beating customs solution will be based on blackboard and chalk.

oh good grief not another thread derailed

(Very) longtime lurker. Have hugely appreciated the insight, information and sanity-preserving intelligence of these threads.

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

@BigChocFrenzy

#NastyPartySquirrel 🐿 Scroll on by the Tory 🐿 🎶🎵🎵🎶

Wise words. Wish there was a "hide poster" function as I find these threads very useful

(www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2020/10/05/the-break-up-of-the-uk-is-coming-but-will-it-be-violent-or-p)
DGR this article you linked to about religious faultlines in the UK was interesting.
But its reference to Czechoslovakia as an example is a bit weird, TBH, given how irrelevant religious issues were during the separation and the fact that while Slovaks are more religious than Czechs on the whole, they belong to various faiths.
Also, it originally suggested there had been a referendum on the question, although that little oddity has since been corrected. Had there been a referendum, polls done at the time and since have shown that the Slovaks would not have been in favour of the separation.

@Clavinova

OchonAgusOchonO

You lost my previous answers.

It seems a bit pointless to ask me the same question a dozen times (regarding a post I made on Friday) - when you think my post was irrelevant to the thread. Just ignore any posts you don't find interesting or relevant - I do.

And with that I am going out - you can waste the rest of your day if you like.

I, and I assume, everyone else, is bored with this. You obviously can't come up with an argument as to why your post was relevant. Fair enough. I accept that and move on.

Apologies to everyone else for the derailing. I know the squirrelling is obvious but I was just curious as to whether there was any hint of rhyme or reason to the posts. Obviously not.

@AuldAlliance

(www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2020/10/05/the-break-up-of-the-uk-is-coming-but-will-it-be-violent-or-p) DGR this article you linked to about religious faultlines in the UK was interesting. But its reference to Czechoslovakia as an example is a bit weird, TBH, given how irrelevant religious issues were during the separation and the fact that while Slovaks are more religious than Czechs on the whole, they belong to various faiths. Also, it originally suggested there had been a referendum on the question, although that little oddity has since been corrected. Had there been a referendum, polls done at the time and since have shown that the Slovaks would not have been in favour of the separation.

I think for most of these situations, religion is more often a coincidence and a lazy badge of identity rather than a cause of conflict. The discord in northern ireland has never had anything to do with religion. It just so happens that most of the unionists are from a protestant tradition and most of the nationalists are from a catholic tradition.

I find these threads very useful

This is obviously the reason for regular 🐿 incursions - if you don't throw nuts you are less likely to derail the thread and discourage people from reading it.

Since we are on the subject of Czechoslovakia - the Czech Republic celebrates Independence Day on 28th October and Slovakia doesn't. Independence from whom, you might ask? It turns out it's from Austria.
From this, may I conclude that Brexit will be fine?

@colouringindoors

oh good grief not another thread derailed

To be fair, I find the frequency and tone of the 🐿🐿 to be usefully indicative, if you see what I mean

TBH I wish EVERYBODY would shut up about Irish exams now.

They just fill the threads up with old news and bickering.

Tonight is the VP debate.
For the first time ever it will really matter.

Unite have voted to defund the Labour Party.

Tory Backbenchers are revolting, sorry rebelling.

Covid cases are rising
and the lockdown consensus is rapidly breaking as the knock on effects become too big to ignore.

Tory backbenchers can be both revolting and rebelling.

Many of them are fairly revolting. Whether they are really rebelling remains to be seen.

The gloves are off in the fight against lawyers:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4044530-The-government-is-attacking-the-rule-of-law-we-are-losing-our-legal-rights

well said LQ

PMK

UltimateFoole I think that karaoke clip with Hancock has been taken down

@ListeningQuietly - TBH I wish EVERYBODY would shut up about Irish exams now. They just fill the threads up with old news and bickering.

And if you had read my last post on the subject, you would see I had already said I was moving on. The pages of content-less pmk that usually appear at the beginning of each thread do a lot more to fill the threads up.

@GeistohneGrenzen

UltimateFoole I think that karaoke clip with Hancock has been taken down

It's actually a clip from Tory conference 2017.

It's here on Guido Fawkes.... (if you can bear it)

order-order.com/2017/10/04/so-boris-can-wait-tory-karaoke-in-full/

I thought it looked like a Tory Party conference can't think why

Have had to go and find some bleach for my brain since watching that

Hi there Prettybird
I guess you'll cope with the lockdown changes round your way
but presumably a lot of borderline restaurants and cafes and pubs will shut up shop now.
Sturgeon screwing business pretty badly.

Tbh, I took up the Leaving Cert schadenfreude comment just for the lols of watching a certain poster pontificate on a topic they were clearly not at all familiar with, with the bonus of inability to address relevance. It was fun while it lasted...

Definitely a 5

I feel like 5 and look like 6! 🐿😬

Definitely a 6 here.

Interesting to see who has most benefited from the Brexit deadlocks
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/oct/06/brexit-drives-government-consultancy-fees-to-450m-in-three-years

and they are coining it on COVID

and all the while
www.nao.org.uk/report/bounce-back-loan-scheme/
Government should also take this opportunity to consider now the controls it would put in place to protect against fraudulent abuse for any future schemes.

...but I feel moved to note that that poster knows exactly what comment of hers revealed her ignorance ('vague' was a polite understatement on my part) of the Irish university application and admission system because she didn't include it in her confused screed above.

The point of including an overview of the CAO process (which she knows nothing about, hence her reference to universities offering places) was to demonstrate that the hot buttons of class and privilege would not play out in Ireland's algorithm issue, unlike the UK experience, where privilege was the central problem. The poster preferred not to refer to the 'universities offer places' statement again on this thread despite taking such theatrical umbrage at the suggestion that her previous description of the application process was 'vague' because it reveals the extent of her ignorance, and also because she prefers to obfuscate.

The CAO process is a crucial difference between Ireland and the UK in the contest of education results in general, and in current circumstances another huge difference is the immediate move to expand place availability by means of a process completely open to scrutiny, which enjoys a huge amount of public confidence in Ireland.

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