Westminstenders: The Tunnel or Bridge

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Apparently negotiations are in the black hole of the EU tunnel or should that be on the back of the fantasy of the Boris Bridge?

Another week closer to complete meltdown.

I'm guessing that our world beating customs solution will be based on blackboard and chalk.

Did anyone catch Armando Ianucci on Frankie Boyle ?

He commented that the way team Trump have captured the media and the narrative means that even if he loses, he'll be there as a sort of "Alt-POTUS"

He also said he could see Republican governors throwing away the postal votes uncounted.

So, where are all those Brexiters who voted that way because they knew that it would lead to improved food standards?

@HannibalHayes

So, where are all those Brexiters who voted that way because they knew that it would lead to improved food standards?

The silence is deafening, isn't it ? Although they'll just claim they were being bullied (which always happens when you are in a majority, doesn't it ?) etc etc.

But please - whenever one pops up - just remind them that this is exactly what they voted for. The actualite is irrelevant, since we were assured for 4 years after the referendum they knew what they were voting for ...

Pru Leith is apparently supporting a campaign to save British farming. Maybe she should start by having a word with her son - one Danny Kruger MP who voted with the Government not to save British food standards. She also supported Cummings when he did his eyesight testing nonsense. I think that tells you all. It really is time that these Leavers owned what they voted for.

Not that we don't want to see food standards preserved, but they are preaching to the wrong people.

Pru Leith is apparently supporting a campaign to save British farming

You know the way that our concerns and fears and what we have lost (some more than others) never featured once in what we were hearing from Brexit backing farmers ?

For myself, it's a case of the shoe being on the other foot, now. I find myself curiously uninterested in their plight. It certainly features much lower on my list of worries than my current hairstyle. For example.

....since we were assured for 4 years after the referendum they knew what they were voting for ...

Not only that DGR - they gave Johnson his mandate last December and knew that he wasn't a details man, but were quite happy to go along with this.

For myself, it's a case of the shoe being on the other foot, now. I find myself curiously uninterested in their plight....

I am in agreement here. I had something of an argument with someone on a facebook thread that I am on. I was told I should get behind the farmers' campaign if I cared about food standards. Note the emotional blackmail there. I replied that of course I cared; I have spent 4 years protesting and got ridicule and mockery for my efforts, so now it's up to them to do the heavy lifting. And as I said, she could start with her son.

@Peregrina

For myself, it's a case of the shoe being on the other foot, now. I find myself curiously uninterested in their plight....

I am in agreement here. I had something of an argument with someone on a facebook thread that I am on. I was told I should get behind the farmers' campaign if I cared about food standards. Note the emotional blackmail there. I replied that of course I cared; I have spent 4 years protesting and got ridicule and mockery for my efforts, so now it's up to them to do the heavy lifting. And as I said, she could start with her son.

... and so the seeds for a division of generational proportions are being sown.

My excuse is that I never signed up in my life to ever be an angel or a saint.

For example, I only halfheartedly disagree with this ...

And when a petition of six fucking million can disappear down the back of the sofa (presumably the petitions office use Excel '97) it's hard to feel any real excitement about petitions that are nearly reaching 100,000

It certainly features much lower on my list of worries than my current hairstyle

I am reminded of a fundraiser some friends of mine were at out Gloucestershire way, before the ref. They are both well respected academics and had the misfortune to be at a table dominated by a local significant landowner. He was Brexiteering over dinner and was also hosting lots of pro Brexit placards in his fields. My friend pointed out that he'd lose significant subsidies etc and the landowner actually said " nonsense why on earth would those change?" ! Even when my friend explained he persisted they'd be unaffected.

Prue Leith.
Ah, yes.
She finds homelessness amusing as her QT appearance proved...
Vile human being.

I've been a busy bunny!
Getting my mum into safer housing and selling her house before brexit so the value doesn't fall off a cliff.
Its been interesting.
Councils, solicitors etc all working remotely...
I wish I could say its efficient or fit for purpose.
And as for the NHS atm...appts are like gold dust even if you have significant issues and SO much has been missed. So many will die or be left disabled due to not being able to access primary care.
I just don't know what our country will look like in a years time...
I'm not sure I'll want to stick around.

We can't get the Grant of Confirmation (= probate) for MIL's estate so can't even get her house sale completed (was supposed to have been last month) as the Commissary Courts are barely operating

@Shrillharridan

Prue Leith. Ah, yes. She finds homelessness amusing as her QT appearance proved... Vile human being.

Funny how decade of supposed levelling of classes hasn't quite managed to eliminate my lack of surprise that someone named "Prue" would have those views.

@Peregrina

Pru Leith is apparently supporting a campaign to save British farming. Maybe she should start by having a word with her son - one Danny Kruger MP who voted with the Government not to save British food standards. She also supported Cummings when he did his eyesight testing nonsense. I think that tells you all. It really is time that these Leavers owned what they voted for.

Not that we don't want to see food standards preserved, but they are preaching to the wrong people.

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Sorry to hear that pretty
I've got friends who have been dealing with cafcass etc since lockdown and its just wrong what has been allowed to happen to vulnerable women and families.
I've been flat out sorting stuff...I find dealing with the local council very stressful.
The solicitor has been ok.
All done over e mail.
But council repairs? Forgot it.
I'm just going to have to pay to get someone in.

pretty Fingers crossed for you.
We're in the same position, and the planned entry date is likely to slip for the same reason. The buyers are flexible but there are 2 other sales/purchases depending on this one going through.

Shrill councils, hmmm. Seems to vary from one to the other what services they are providing.
When clearing MIL's house, we discovered the council suspended 'special uplifts' back in March and have not reinstated them. Other councils are doing them.
Yet they were able to send out a jobsworth to look at a tree overhanging our back garden, because DH informed them we are going to have it trimmed back (at our cost of course).

there are questions about immunity that simply can't be answered yet because not enough time has passed.

I'm no immunologist but the herd immunity news looks ... bad.

I don't know if anyone here recalls what happened in the Amazonian city of Manaus during the first wave ... massive epidemic, collapse of health and other public services. Estimates put the proportion of people with COVID antibodies at up to two thirds of the city's population. Cases fell steeply over the summer, leading some people to speculate that herd immunity had been reached...

... but cases are now rising again.

www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-brazil-manaus-idUSKBN26I0I4

When clearing MIL's house, we discovered the council suspended 'special uplifts' back in March and have not reinstated them.

Covid has been a godsend to all sorts of organisations that want to get paid more for doing less ...

Fancy a career in politics?

Either go to a really posh private school, shag someone or be born into a political dynasty.

Bulk uplifts have not been reinstated here either Nice SIL and dh had to hire a van to finish emptying the house (furniture that couldn't go to the charity shop because they couldn't find the fire label even though the leather recliner was obviously part of he same suite as the sofa which did have a label ) and then take it to the only coup in Glasgow (other side of the city) that was accepting domestic vans.

Fortunately we don't need the money - although it will be nice when it comes. One SIL is desperate - but that's only because she had been living off her mother for years and has had the money tree cut down. So hell mend her not just our opinion, that of the other siblings too

Also fortunately, the buyer of MIL's house is a developer so not date critical. But they'll not hang on forever.

I got a local firm with a license to take mums stuff away...£200 for 2 full van loads.
Most other stuff has gone to family/friends.

A levels and Gsces to be delayed by three weeks.

I've just been watching the expert's press conference on the BBC. Whilst I am not disputing the figures, we are being softened up for Johnson's speech at 6pm.

I struggle to comprehend our PM at the best of times, but DH has suggested brandy and a bingo card to make it palatable.

pretty, shrill and DGR luckily we have a trailer and are fit.
We found even the charities are getting picky about quality, and one would pick up only from the threshold only. Plus you need to book 2 weeks ahead in the first place.
The council charged separately for the uplift service anyway, so they shot themselves in the foot there.
£200 seems reasonable (!) given we were quoted £60 to remove just a double mattress (and there was a lot more than that).
How do people manage who don't have our resources??