Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

I really can't get upset about the Royal Family anymore.

I think that's a general creeping feeling. Quite aside from the Andrew business.

In it, he points out (for example) that the US railway industry didn't understand that they weren't in the transportation business rather than the railroad business and therefore didn't/couldn't see the threat from cars, planes - and even phones.

Henry Ford used to say that if he'd listened to his customers, he'd have made faster horses.

Very first day in the business studies module of my degree, the lecturer asked "What's the point of IBM ?"

No one got it Which rather illustrated how rarefied academia was in the 80s.

@pointythings

Elements I am loving your work.

Henry Ford used to say that if he'd listened to his customers, he'd have made faster horses.

That's why I said "customers' needs and desires" - not what they said

Henry Ford understood he was in the transportation business: horse and carts were one method of getting from A to B and cars were a more efficient method

Re Prison Ships : this was an interesting project
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Weare

Re second cars :
Yup, I know of several people who have allowed their PCPs to lapse and handed back the new car and kept the old

on the other hand petrol family estates are as rare as hens teeth on car sale sites
lots of soon to be barred from cities diesels though ....

Royal Family
The Cambridges and the Wessexes are doing a decent job
but once Liz and Phil pop their clogs, the rationale for SAndringham, Windsor and Balmoral goes out the window.

To be fair to Patel, this appears to be some sort of Blue Sky thinking by her department, who like Patel wouldn't have known where Ascension is, Raab after all, didn't know the importance of Dover to UK trade.

It also wouldn't stop people coming to the UK seeking asylum (why would it anymore than a holding centre in the UK) Winter will stop the migrants crossing the channel via small boat and CV limits the far more normal routes such as ferry and flights.

Yup, I know of several people who have allowed their PCPs to lapse and handed back the new car and kept the old [] on the other hand petrol family estates are as rare as hens teeth on car sale sites lots of soon to be barred from cities diesels though ....

All of which is a bit embarrassing given that the Uks car consumers were supposed to be our ace-in-the-hole when it came to giving the Bosch a damn good spanking.

Future gazing, a downturn in car ownership and thus fuel demand could precipitate another cull of petrol stations - and like pubs, quite a few have gone these past 20 years.

More space for those homes the government has been trying hard to make sure never get built.

Who knows ? That tram they're running down Brums Broad Street, coupled with the almost complete A38 Selly Oak to City Centre cycleway might actually make sense ? Proof that if you randomly do shit without any forethought the law of averages means you'll be right once a century. Like our water supply

Quieter motorways might make autonomous HGVs (remember they were supposed to be trialling those years ago ?) even more attractive. Which would actually solve Goves Kent problem, if he was interested in a solution. (My money says he isn't).

and again ...

it's getting to be "Whack-a-mole" (I do hope the Mole Protection league aren't offended ...) with these negative stories.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-trade-northern-ireland-mps-boris-johnson-b714335.html

Trade will be a “day-to day struggle” after Brexit is completed, MPs have been told, in a bleak forecast from the key aerospace, chemicals and pharmaceuticals industries.

The inquiry heard of massive extra costs, a mountain of red tape, shrinking investment and chemicals “disappearing” from the UK market, from January.

@Clavinova, honestly whetehr Patal came up with the idea first or labour did. Whether its her or the civil servants working for her. I really don't care.

The idea is shit (if it was coming from civil servants) should never have made it to the press.

Notwithstanding the practicalities of doing such a thing, it makes the UK look like a fool again. It's opening the door wide open to more abuse that there already is the current detention centre in the UK and would stop asylum seekers from easily acess lawyers. Which is a one their minium (human) right.

I would also question a minister that has no idea what her staff is working and would let them publish in the press stuff she hasnt approved yet (or seen as you imply).
So either she is incompetent to have had her staff doing that work and giving it away. Or she is a fool to think this could be possible.

(Or this is one of the many PR stunt from the government to try and stroke fear of immigrants as well as giving the governmemt that look of 'doing a lot of work to protect british people').

To be fair to Patel, this appears to be some sort of Blue Sky thinking by her department, who like Patel wouldn't have known where Ascension is,

I would doubt this is the case. Ministers might be able to get where they are using other means than knowledge or ability. Not so much when you are looking for top level civil servants.

@jasjas1973

To be fair to Patel, this appears to be some sort of Blue Sky thinking by her department, who like Patel wouldn't have known where Ascension is, Raab after all, didn't know the importance of Dover to UK trade.

It also wouldn't stop people coming to the UK seeking asylum (why would it anymore than a holding centre in the UK) Winter will stop the migrants crossing the channel via small boat and CV limits the far more normal routes such as ferry and flights.

.... There is no evidence that Raab's ones weren't well aware that a lot of UK food comes from Dover, just that Raab didn't, or that Patel's ones aren't aware of Ascension's location - or indeed in this case that Patel herself isn't

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/30/britain-offers-eu-fishing-concession-brexit-sweetener

Tiens, tiens...

It is extraordinary that Patel is sniffing around Blair's castoff Y-fronts from 2003 ! 😂🤮

Next, Cummings BJ will be creating a new Ministry of Advanced Tech - to harness the power of phlogiston

@BigChocFrenzy

It is extraordinary that Patel is sniffing around Blair's castoff Y-fronts from 2003 ! 😂🤮

Next, Cummings BJ will be creating a new Ministry of Advanced Tech - to harness the power of phlogiston

phlogiston

phlogistone surely. The "E" is for excellence, naturally.

Haha Hancock just been called out by speaker! He said he was only given 90 minutes for discussion on Covid act to an MP. Speaker said that it could have had a longer time for discussion and he would have allowed it. ( Hancock inferring he had time limit put on by someone else)

Hoyle giving off strong vibes of hating them all today!

Think Hoyle has been ham stringed by the Government and that's why he's so cross. There is no room for scrutiny with this Government and Hancock now called out as a liar says it all.

Shadow minister now saying they have not had an explanation why the debate was limited to 90 minutes. So Government intervention on that too that's why Hoyle so angry.

Re Prison Ships : this was an interesting project
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HM_Prison_Weare

I spent several months of my life living in that thing ........

Before it was a prison ship..

I've also had first hand experience (briefly, several times) of Ascension Island ... guess I must have upset somebody in a previous life.....

@Sostenueto

Think Hoyle has been ham stringed by the Government and that's why he's so cross. There is no room for scrutiny with this Government and Hancock now called out as a liar says it all.

Perhaps he senses the axe moving ?

No need for a speaker if there's no need for debate.

DGR do u think Government who go that far? Could they actually do that?

@Sostenueto

DGR do u think Government who go that far? Could they actually do that?

What law is there to stop them that they won't break ?

After all ...

Future gazing, a downturn in car ownership and thus fuel demand could precipitate another cull of petrol stations - and like pubs, quite a few have gone these past 20 years.

More space for those homes the government has been trying hard to make sure never get built.

I wouldn’t be buying a house built on a former petrol station.

@SabrinaThwaite

Future gazing, a downturn in car ownership and thus fuel demand could precipitate another cull of petrol stations - and like pubs, quite a few have gone these past 20 years.

More space for those homes the government has been trying hard to make sure never get built.

I wouldn’t be buying a house built on a former petrol station.

Don't worry. No way are any houses being built while this lot are in charge.

It’s more that I’ve dug up plenty of old petrol stations.