Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

@Clavinova

HesterThrale I was in fact replying to BigChocFrenzy's post about technical issues.

.... which in the Uk go back for a couple of weeks and will continue to be corrected for several days, vs a tech error that missed 1,430 cases but was quickly spotted by the RKI and corrected within hours

What concerns me about the UK's missing several thousand:
is whether the info about those missing positive tests was given to the infected people and to track & trace,
or whether the tests were genuinely mislaid for a couple of weeks, i.e. so t&t and people who should have isolated have only just been informed

==> Has anyone read which it was and has a linky, pls ?

Some students will be 18 and away from home on their own for the first time
They will be frightened
and - judging by many MN posts on other threads - parents will collect many who are supposed to be isolating and bring them home.

It's no good saying that previous generations became independent earlier,
because we have to deal with how this gen has been raised
and how parents are expected to be more supportive for longer

I had to be pretty independent at 18, since my disabled widowed mum could offer little support,
but I received a full govt maintenance grant and my fees paid, so imo I was less stessed than many now

To save Clav a desperate Google, Spain especially as well as France have made multiple updates of several thousand cases over the last 3 months or so

The headline in 2016 was "Gainsborough fancy dress firm Smiffys moving base to Holland".
www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/news/business/gainsborough-fancy-dress-firm-smiffys-103657

What it decided to do in 2016 was move its EU Head Office to Amsterdam. Gainsborough is still the UK Head Office.

Addresses here for info: trade.smiffys.com/uk_gbp_en/contact

The company's Modern Slavery Statement says it employs "over 150 people" worldwide - so that would be fewer than 160. Not a huge employer in the UK, then.

And as the director pointed out in the 2016 story, taxes on its EU trade now go through its EU office in Amsterdam and are lost to the UK Exchequer.

And as the director pointed out in the 2016 story, taxes on its EU trade now go through its EU office in Amsterdam and are lost to the UK Exchequer.

🐿 "The Lombard effect is the involuntary tendency of people to match their vocal effort to their surrounding noise levels. Speakers alter not only loudness but also other acoustic features such as pitch, rate and duration of syllables to compensate for the loudest background noise in their vicinity. This explains why people shout on mobile phones. This also explains why Brexitannia doesn't need, and won't notice the losses of employment or taxes from UnBeLeaver companies!" 🐿

@TheElementsOfMedical

And as the director pointed out in the 2016 story, taxes on its EU trade now go through its EU office in Amsterdam and are lost to the UK Exchequer.

🐿 "The Lombard effect is the involuntary tendency of people to match their vocal effort to their surrounding noise levels. Speakers alter not only loudness but also other acoustic features such as pitch, rate and duration of syllables to compensate for the loudest background noise in their vicinity. This explains why people shout on mobile phones. This also explains why Brexitannia doesn't need, and won't notice the losses of employment or taxes from UnBeLeaver companies!" 🐿

The Lombard effect has also been demonstrated experimentally in nine species of birds across a wide range of taxa and is likely to be the cause of observed correlations between vocal amplitude and environmental noise levels in free-living birds such as common nightingales. So the song should be "A Nightingale Shouted in Berkeley Square". Doesn't scan but is more scientifically accurate.

Sorry, I digress.

BigChocFrenzy
whether the info about those missing positive tests was given to the infected people and to track & trace

I Googled anyway;
"13 August - Bavarian State Premier Markus Söder met with state government officials on Thursday after a breakdown in coronavirus testing."

"Söder fielded criticism after Bavaria's Health Minister Melanie Huml announced on Wednesday that 44,000 travellers returning to Germany's largest state were still awaiting their COVID-19 test results, of which 900 are positive. The testing was done at specially established centres on state highways."

"A blunder happened, and a very big blunder at that," Söder told reporters Thursday after the meeting. "The entire state government is sorry that these mistakes happened."

Brexit could unleash a consumer spending boom

... consumers stocking up on tins of baked beans & toilet paper

DGR Does Jeff Bezos really need $100,000,000,000 in the bank?

Exactly. And I’m sure it’s the relentless pursuit of GDP growth, expansion and profit that is causing the planet‘s natural resources to be plundered and trashed. But that’s another issue.

I liked this quote about Bezos from Caitlin Moran’s Times column.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caitlin-moran-my-problem-with-the-worlds-richest-man-x9zg8sb6j

@Clavinova

BigChocFrenzy whether the info about those missing positive tests was given to the infected people and to track & trace

I Googled anyway;
"13 August - Bavarian State Premier Markus Söder met with state government officials on Thursday after a breakdown in coronavirus testing."

"Söder fielded criticism after Bavaria's Health Minister Melanie Huml announced on Wednesday that 44,000 travellers returning to Germany's largest state were still awaiting their COVID-19 test results, of which 900 are positive. The testing was done at specially established centres on state highways."

"A blunder happened, and a very big blunder at that," Söder told reporters Thursday after the meeting. "The entire state government is sorry that these mistakes happened."

.... You had to go back to mid-August and Soeder's wildly ambitious plan to test every returning holidaymaker in Bavaria - pop 13 million

That wasn't the system going wrong, just a politician asking the impossible

Brexit could unleash a consumer spending boom

Also,
a) provided consumers have an income to spend
b) provided consumers can get hold of things they want to buy

Soeder was also allowing any family members or basically any of the 13 million Bavarians to have a free test
Impossible for any test system to perform and the Bavarian one was just swamped

Since then, politicians have been realistic, avoided making gestures - he wants to succeed Merkel - and let the public health authorities decide who gets tested

BJ's "moonshot" would be even worse madness, with testing 10 million every day and has been slated by public health experts
Not to mention the 100 billion cost - which going by previous big govt projects, from any party, would rocket

Testing must be targeted;
It's not feasible for any country - except the minnows - to test a significant % of their population daily

Chersfrozenface
Your link quite clearly states;
"A major Lincolnshire employer has announced it is moving its headquarters to Europe because of the UK's decision to leave the EU."

"Fancy dress supplier, Smiffys, which has been based in Gainsborough for 126 years, will be moving its operations to Holland."

"It will mean [Gainsborough] will no longer be the main depot for the product and will be one of several pick faces for the business like our warehouse in Australia and Dallas in the USA."

This does not appear to be the case.

Not a huge employer in the UK, then.
I didn't link to Yorkshire Bylines - it was the first company on their list.

Well it's all very mysterious;
April 2020 -
"Smiffys employs more than 220 staff at its head office in Gainsborough and its base in Leeds, where its costumes are designed."

"RH Smith & Sons (Wigmakers), which trades as Smiffy's, recently published accounts for the 12 months to 31 December 2018, which were signed off on 23 March 2020 and made public for the first time on 17 April."

"the company's turnover increased from £55.1m to £59.9m while its pre-tax profits went from £2.9m to £4m."

www.insidermedia.com/news/midlands/historic-firms-board-very-pleased-with-latest-results

imo, the Uk needs to slightly scale back testing to what the system can handle, then update as capacity genuinely increases.

Not its stretched target for a 2 week emergency period, but what it can handle for months on end

How could Brexit unleash a consumer spending boom ?

I am sure that lettuce that has sat outside Calais in a truck for a week awaiting customs clearance will be lush

I wonder if that £4 million is just the profit taxed in the UK, with the rest taxed in the EU now ?
Or maybe that split happens next tax year

@ListeningQuietly

How could Brexit unleash a consumer spending boom ?

I am sure that lettuce that has sat outside Calais in a truck for a week awaiting customs clearance will be lush

.... but will it have been paid for already ?

• I suspect producers and truckers would want paying up front by UK supermarket etc before delivering in the early post-transition period plus a surcharge for extra time and red tape

As posted upthread, I had been thinking more of consumers prepping their stocks of baked beans & loo paper

How is your veggy plot doing ?

The Lombard effect has also been demonstrated experimentally in nine species of birds across a wide range of taxa and is likely to be the cause of observed correlations between vocal amplitude and environmental noise levels in free-living birds such as common nightingales. So the song should be "A Nightingale Shouted in Berkeley Square". Doesn't scan but is more scientifically accurate.

@Chersfrozenface That's fascinating! It's really interesting to discover which phenomena are common across very different species. (Not spiky penises though, as most birds lack penises apart from some notable genera - that can be one of my upcoming facts in support of Brexit ).

Cuts, lack of resources for ordinary care:

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/oct/04/fears-for-mothers-and-babies-covid-19-health-visitor-crisis-mental-health-breastfeeding-england

Overstretched health visitors have been forced to care for up to 2,400 families with newborns at a time, 10 times the recommended number

@TheElementsOfMedical

The Lombard effect has also been demonstrated experimentally in nine species of birds across a wide range of taxa and is likely to be the cause of observed correlations between vocal amplitude and environmental noise levels in free-living birds such as common nightingales. So the song should be "A Nightingale Shouted in Berkeley Square". Doesn't scan but is more scientifically accurate.

@Chersfrozenface That's fascinating! It's really interesting to discover which phenomena are common across very different species. (Not spiky penises though, as most birds lack penises apart from some notable genera - that can be one of my upcoming facts in support of Brexit ).

... Isn't is tigers among the cat family who have a spiky penis ?

I remember from The Lion Man series, the (mad) cat man saying that tiger mating was painful for the female because of some penile oddity

🐿 Adding to the penis library: 🐿

🐘 A full-grown male elephant's penis weighs 60 lb on average 🐘

Isn't is tigers among the cat family who have a spiky penis?

All cats have penile spines, because poor female cats require the "stimulation" upon withdrawal of the penis, to trigger ovulation.

🦆 Swans, ducks & geese have penises 🦆

I Googled this after one Rhine walk, being concerned I needed new specs

BigChoc
Veg plot is rather soggy at the moment
but I've got leeks, kale, chard, spuds, collard greens, carrots, squash and shelly beans enough to last me till March

I hope this thread doesn't get deleted, with our masterstudy on penises !