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Westministender: Amen to that!

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RedToothBrush · 20/09/2020 20:52

On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

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DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 10:42

The first Covid-19 contact tracing app, which was shelved, worked with more handsets than the one which has actually been rolled out.

Two abbreviations that never sit well in a sentence are HMG and IT.

I wonder how many people bought a second phone to install the app on to leave it at home ?

ListeningQuietly · 27/09/2020 10:59

Hunt is clever enough to know that if he were PM, Starmer would skewer him week in week out about what he did to the NHS as health sec

so he'll stay well clear of No10 till Covid is a memory

Gove : he's arrogant enough but the shire Tories loathe him.
Raab is too thick.

Not a lot of available talent on those benches TBH
tee hee

SabrinaThwaite · 27/09/2020 11:00

Two abbreviations that never sit well in a sentence are HMG and IT.

It’s all going to be fiiiiiine with the SmartFreight app, isn’t it?

TheElementsOfMedical · 27/09/2020 12:57

It’s all going to be fiiiiiine with the SmartFreight app, isn’t it?

Let me get in there first Grin:

"Pringles are in the shape of a hyperbolic paraboloid, therefore [Insert Government Crony App] is fiiiiiiiiine."

SabrinaThwaite · 27/09/2020 13:01

NHS sent me a text this morning to tell me to download the app.

At 7.20am. On a Sunday morning.

Thanks for that.

pointythings · 27/09/2020 13:05

Sabrina I got that text late yesterday night. I said 'Fuck off' to my phone.

SabrinaThwaite · 27/09/2020 13:06

Also looking like Switzerland has voted to keep FoM.

Who’d a thunk that retaining access to the Single Market might be preferable to keeping the foreigners out.

ListeningQuietly · 27/09/2020 13:09

I'm sure the Brexiters said that other Countries would follow the UK in rejecting the EU
Ah well
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/27/swiss-voters-reject-curbs-on-eu-immigration-switzerland-referendum

Sostenueto · 27/09/2020 13:10

Got my text yesterday. They can go f* right off as far as I'm concerned. They still not fixed all glitches but have fixed some. It's so stupid anyway. Imagine you get told to isolate so you do so then the minute u step outside after isolating your told to do so again. You will be on perpetual isolation. No one is going to take any notice! Only 18% now isolate when told to before the app. No one will do it. People already saying if they get notified too often they will switch it off. Waste of money and money put straight into some MPs pockets or their family and friends. Am completly disalusioned by everything atm.

yoikes · 27/09/2020 13:14

Well they can FOTTFSOFATFOSM

Meuniere · 27/09/2020 13:17

The issue with the new app is that they’ve launched it before reviewing the results of the trial so there has been no time to sort issues out.

I wont be downloading it.

Meuniere · 27/09/2020 13:19

FWIW the biggest issue here is the 18%.
If there is something the government should do is ensure that self isolation is followed. Otherwise, you can set up the best app ever, it won’t make any difference (apart from looking like you are doing something)

DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 13:29

Interesting ...

another forum I dabble in has just seen an avowed leaver rebut "52% voted for this" by saying it wasn't 52% of the country but of the electorate. I don't think they weren't expecting the shitstorm they hit - and they had a posting history of dismissing the facts going back to 2016.

It's the very first confirmed reverse ferret in my limited and personal experience.

TheABC · 27/09/2020 13:37

I think Rishi could have a good chance of stepping up when Johnson goes - he looks young, energetic, electable and sane. Plus, he does what he is told.

You put Gov in and you instantly make Stamner look better, as it's a straight choice between two, white establishment men except one is responsible for the Covid/Brexit shitshow.

ListeningQuietly · 27/09/2020 13:41

Why would Sunak want the job?
It would make him an ex prime minister before he was 50 ....

prettybird · 27/09/2020 13:49

I downloaded the Scottish version of the app, Protect-Scot, on the day it was launched. I believe that 1.2 million have now downloaded it, which is not bad for a population of 5.5 million.

My downstairs neighbours are currently self-isolating as their S6 (=Y13) ds1 is in the same class as someone who tested positive - but the app hasn't "pinged" (I know that they have it too: they're both GPs).

It doesn't seem to have the same shortcomings as the English one (which to be fair ish they claim to be sorting out) and also our Test & Protect system seems to be working more robustly than the English Track & Trace (maybe because it wasn't contracted out to cronies Wink) and the hospitality sector still has to take proper traceable records and not leave it all to OR codes that Track & Trace can't access Confused

SabrinaThwaite · 27/09/2020 13:55

@DGRossetti

Interesting ...

another forum I dabble in has just seen an avowed leaver rebut "52% voted for this" by saying it wasn't 52% of the country but of the electorate. I don't think they weren't expecting the shitstorm they hit - and they had a posting history of dismissing the facts going back to 2016.

It's the very first confirmed reverse ferret in my limited and personal experience.

It wasn’t even 52% of the electorate, more like 37%. Wonder if they’ll ever admit to that?
DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 13:58

It wasn’t even 52% of the electorate, more like 37%. Wonder if they’ll ever admit to that?

We already know that Brexiteer maths is a new and exciting branch of imaginary numbers.

DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 14:15

Jung would have a field day with the synchronicities of Brexit ...

Westministender: Amen to that!
Peregrina · 27/09/2020 14:16

Interesting, DGR. Coupled with the Swiss rejecting calls to limit FoM. Maybe there will be some sort of deal after all, which will definitely not disadvantage the EU, but Johnson will package it as his great success.

DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 14:21

@Peregrina

Interesting, DGR. Coupled with the Swiss rejecting calls to limit FoM. Maybe there will be some sort of deal after all, which will definitely not disadvantage the EU, but Johnson will package it as his great success.
If nothing else, the EU return to the table tomorrow with a spring in their step and a clear challenge to see if they can get Boris to add Swizterland to the list of countries the UK has faceslapped in the past week ...
DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 14:24

More Jungian trolling Smile

www.rte.ie/radio1/today-with-claire-byrne/programmes/2020/0922/1166741-today-with-claire-byrne-tuesday-22-september-2020/

No Deal Brexit And What It Will Mean For Your Pocket ...Martina Lawless, Economist with The ESRI

DGRossetti · 27/09/2020 15:31

Seems it's illegal to teach Marx anymore.

www.theguardian.com/education/2020/sep/27/uk-schools-told-not-to-use-anti-capitalist-material-in-teaching

The government has ordered schools in England not to use resources from organisations which have expressed a desire to end capitalism.

Department for Education (DfE) guidance issued on Thursday for school leaders and teachers involved in setting the relationship, sex and health curriculum categorised anti-capitalism as an “extreme political stance” and equated it with opposition to freedom of speech, antisemitism and endorsement of illegal activity.

(contd)

Meuniere · 27/09/2020 16:17

Some people have pointed out that the new WA that BJ negotiated was the one the eu proposed and TM rejected (with good reasons tbh - who, in their own mind would agree to a border inside their own country??).

The eu will have an ‘oven ready’ deal. I’m wondering if BJ will do the same again and agree n a brand new TA that is such a success but is basically the EU ‘oven ready’ deal. (And will be at the datage of the eu of course).

If ‘hard core’ brexiters are finally waking up, the pressure on BJ to get a deal, any deal will get even stronger (if he lasts until then...)

Peregrina · 27/09/2020 16:35

A long time ago I did History A level where one of the strands was 17th Century British History. One of our texts was Christopher Hill's A Century of Revolutions. I had no idea at the time that Hill was a Marxist.

I do recall that the main thrust of his argument that the causes of the Civil War could be traced to the rise of the middle classes, and not wholly a religious war as it had been portrayed.