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Westministender: Amen to that!

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RedToothBrush · 20/09/2020 20:52

On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

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52andblue · 24/09/2020 09:15

I just feel like crying about the Kent-ish situation, I really do.
I have so many memories of growing up there, and visits home but I am glad I don't live there now :(

Jason118 · 24/09/2020 09:19

Well, he probably would have started KIP if he'd thought of it first.

DGRossetti · 24/09/2020 09:32

@Peregrina

DH mentioned ships with flags of convenience, and suspects that haulage firms will re register their lorries in Ireland to get round the rules. Would that be possible? All I can predict is that if there are dodges and wheezes to get round the rules, they will be found PDQ.
If they are happy to be subject to EU rules, I guess.

Worth noting that Alaska isn't contiguous with mainland USA, if that helps. I wonder how lorries go from there to (say) Washington state ?

GaspodeWonderCat · 24/09/2020 09:46

I wonder how lorries go from there to (say) Washington state?

Via Alcan highway or ship in the main. Departures every few days, 3 days to get there ish

www.lynden.com/ltia/schedules/seattle.html

SabrinaThwaite · 24/09/2020 09:46

Worth noting that Alaska isn't contiguous with mainland USA, if that helps. I wonder how lorries go from there to (say) Washington state ?

Mostly by rail or sea, given that it’s over 2000 miles from Seattle to Alaska.

DGRossetti · 24/09/2020 09:56

@SabrinaThwaite

Worth noting that Alaska isn't contiguous with mainland USA, if that helps. I wonder how lorries go from there to (say) Washington state ?

Mostly by rail or sea, given that it’s over 2000 miles from Seattle to Alaska.

They should build a bridge Grin
pinkbalconyrailing · 24/09/2020 10:03

@SabrinaThwaite

Worth noting that Alaska isn't contiguous with mainland USA, if that helps. I wonder how lorries go from there to (say) Washington state ?

Mostly by rail or sea, given that it’s over 2000 miles from Seattle to Alaska.

with astounding prices for fresh imported produce
ListeningQuietly · 24/09/2020 10:13

Is Kent now in France
For many years the pub in St Margaret's Bay counted as France for mobile phone companies
(as the UK phone masts could not see it but the Dunkirk ones could)

ListeningQuietly · 24/09/2020 10:16

This makes me very sad
^www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/10000-more-deaths-than-usual-occurred-in-uk-homes-since-june^
As the weather gets colder more people will die at home alone of treatable illnesses because of the fear of COVID
not from COVID

Lockdown is killing cancer patients, dementia patients, lonely patients, diabetes patients

And locking down the young will lead to an unforgivable rise in suicides as the nights get longer

IrenetheQuaint · 24/09/2020 10:21

I imagine the fact that the NHS has not yet returned to full capacity has also increased deaths at home - as people with treatable conditions are not always managing to get them treated.

ListeningQuietly · 24/09/2020 10:25

Irene
At my local, very large, hospital
surgeons and specialists have LOADS of capacity
(as they have had less than three covid cases over the last month)
but they are not allowed to book people in
and GPs are not referring the ill
and people think they will catch COVID in the hospital
so they die at home

IrenetheQuaint · 24/09/2020 10:51

That's awful, @ListeningQuietly

mrslaughan · 24/09/2020 10:53

Big choc - I think you made the commented on the virus affecting men more? I saw comment (yesterday?) that they are seeing more women admitted to hospital now.....

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2020 10:55

@ListeningQuietly

This makes me very sad ^www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/24/10000-more-deaths-than-usual-occurred-in-uk-homes-since-june^ As the weather gets colder more people will die at home alone of treatable illnesses because of the fear of COVID not from COVID

Lockdown is killing cancer patients, dementia patients, lonely patients, diabetes patients

And locking down the young will lead to an unforgivable rise in suicides as the nights get longer

.... MYTH as far as current deaths go Look at the facts not your dislike of Covid measures

Deaths have been normal for this time of year, for months now

Excess deaths stopped after the 1st wave died down, which was before strict lockdown ended

Deaths of the young were actually slightly lower than usual, as fewer RTAs, work deaths, alcohol-fuelled deaths etc

The UK is not even in lockdown and hasn't been for months
Only a few parts of the country have lockdown atm and not as severe as before

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2020 10:57

Deaths because urgent treatment was stopped, or smears etc delayed are not showing up in stats yet - those will happen over the next 20 years

60,000 excess deaths in 12 weeks is a major shock to a country, a tragedy that hammers economic activity even if there were no Sdrules

but spread over 10-20 years we wouldn't notice even an extra 100k,
e.g. most people cba about the austerity deaths due to service cuts & benefit cuts - or we wouldn't have this govt

prettybird · 24/09/2020 10:57

Brilliant trolling from Verhofstadt Grin

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2020 11:01

But it's British Bureaucracy
which is good Wink

Didn't Gove recently talk about "building up the Customs sector ?"

BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2020 11:06

Listening Look at the sharp peak in deaths from all causes in all the UK regions over the 12 weks of the 1st wave

Look at when it started and when it ended - while the strictest national lockdown was still on
Covid is what killed people

Months later and total deaths are still normal for this time of year, becuse there are v few Covid deaths
and no other CoD has risen enough to be noticeable

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BigChocFrenzy · 24/09/2020 11:12

I can think of many serious arguments against a policy of SD:

Civil liberties and giving much more power to the state, especially this shitty govt

The healthy and older risk-takers being forced to sacrifice the enjoyment of probably > a year of their lives - which can never be paid back - to save the old, the vulnerable and reassure the anxious

Even reducing the burden of the care and pensions crises on the young, if they are ruthless enough to let the "Boomer Virus" rip

There is no need to invent rumours about lockdown deaths, or deny the Covid deaths that have happened

prettybird · 24/09/2020 11:14

In support of LQ's comment: I was talking to a friend last night (while we shared a glass of wine in the garden of course WineHalo) who is a gastro-intestinal surgeon and he was saying that they're not working at full capacity and that he's having difficulty getting his staff to work at full efficiency, because they've got used to working at a reduced pace. So for example at yesterday morning's clinic they did just 2 endoscopies whereas normally he'd do 10. Sad

SabrinaThwaite · 24/09/2020 11:19

@DmitryOpines

May never get invited onto the BBC again.

Presenter: "I remember being told that once we got a trade deal with the EU, we'd have frictionless trade."

Me: "Yes. The people saying that were ignorant or lying."

Presenter: "Oh."

Me: "Sorry."

(Radio Kent)

SabrinaThwaite · 24/09/2020 11:22

Our local hospital is very quiet too - neighbour might finally be about to get her knee replacement that was postponed in March. There have been no Covid cases in ICU for several months now.

Mistigri · 24/09/2020 12:22

*@DmitryOpines

May never get invited onto the BBC again.*

Someone has now posted the clip and it's hilarious. It's even better when you hear it in a broad Australian accent. The presenter is literally left speechless.

SabrinaThwaite · 24/09/2020 12:28

I liked his “I know the BBC likes to sugar coat things but ...” comment Smile

QueenOfThorns · 24/09/2020 12:29

I’m not seeing any suspension in normal medical appointments personally, so it’s presumably not universal! My GP pestered me about my (overdue) smear test by phone and text in the middle of June, and I had my routine annual Dermatology check up in August.