Westministender: Amen to that!

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On the Anniversary of the Battle of Britain, Johnson went to Westminster Abbey and was trolled. Its almost divine in its irony.

In a week where just about the entire right wing press has turned on him, for being... well shit... They have the dawning realisation that yes all those annoying lefties were right all along when they said he was full of nothing but hot air. He's been ridiculed for being paid £150,000 a year and not being able to feed his 5000 kids and the pictures to mark the anniversary of him becoming PM do little more than look like a man who couldn't tie his own shoe laces without a nanny to help him.

But its not really a laughing matter. This man doesn't understand what legal agreements he's signed so his solution to his ineptitude is to throw his toys out of the pram together with the rule of law. Which he also does not understand.

Johnson is also ever increasingly keen on ripping up inconvient human right and workers right and he has ample opportunity to do all this in the middle of a pandemic.

Unfortunately the hypocrisy of his cronies isn't exactly helping the behaviour of the public and you have to pity the poor behavioural scientists who have to tell him that 'of course the public are going to give you the vs when you tell them you shouldn't do this when your chief advisor claims to be maybe going blind'.

It seems the whole government strategy on managing the virus seems to be falling flat on its face rather sooner than planned cos they stuck Dildo in charge who wouldn't know her Rs from her elbow if it hit her in the face. And we've got Hancock going full on 1984, telling us not to believe the reports that no one can get a test because its all lies - except half the country has either first hand experience of the travesty of Track and Trace or has a close mate who they know is a hell of a lot more reliable than any of these fuckwits when it comes to telling the truth.

Meanwhile in America Bader Ginsburg has managed to die at possibly the most inconvient and dangerous time possible just as the future of democracy in the US is clinging on by its finger nails.

And yes. Money laundering. Haven't we talked about that a lot on these threads. Its almost as if FinCEN was predictable...

Taking back control was always about the elite taking back control from the masses. But if you've managed to keep following all this time, we've been saying that since April 2016 and no one listened then, so why would they start listening now?

Sunk without a trace (of ships)

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/brexit-grayling-seaborne-freight-ferriesukk5f6a276dc5b68400a231dc3f?gucereferrer=aHR0cDovL2MubmV3c25vdy5jby51ay8&guceereferrersig=AQAAAIBuKSAuckpj3DtXvrDPpvP0GG9MkFKvTCBbTTD-ZUWciON2BJzBdPlarIwsg0eaiVThkBE0FXXsczCw9R43CrqAqTrczyHzlsXa2tCSYmNV4ZwokVVo44ZARGFoEL0od8CS52NJqRmLDr5ZOiHINxNtjgpavIxEuutoxhVLoB6y&fbclid=IwAR0LStQBxMSOgraBAQgeFAtdbfDHpiQA4gWnmKpVAvfCNwVX1QhKmr0MOWY&guccconsent_skip=1600894334

Sounds like a lot of cash.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. is moving about 200 billion euros ($230 billion) from the U.K. to Frankfurt as a result of Britain’s exit from the European Union, a shift that will make it one of the largest banks in Germany.

www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-23/jpmorgan-to-move-230-billion-assets-to-germany-in-brexit-shift?srnd=premium-europe

Bigchoc I was surprised as well tbh.

But we know that age isn't the only factor, because the death rate in ethnic minority groups is disproportionately high in both Europe and North America, especially in younger age groups. So class and prior health status definitely play a role.

Brexit: the gift that keeps on giving

First @BorderIrish, now:

A man of Kent or a Kentish man.
It doesn't really matter if you're driving a van
Jump in a lorry, you might be sorry
Because without a passport you're facing a ban
Avoid the A roads with your goods laden trucks
Truth is the government doesn't give two ***

kentlivenews

@Mistigri

Bigchoc I was surprised as well tbh.

But we know that age isn't the only factor, because the death rate in ethnic minority groups is disproportionately high in both Europe and North America, especially in younger age groups. So class and prior health status definitely play a role.

.... Tragically, proportionally higher deaths in minority groups have occurred, but when we examined ONS breakdowns on the stats threads, the differences seemed mostly related to occupation (public-facing) and deprivation levels

The much larger US differences in outcomes come from generations of a racist society and very unequal healthcare

ONS death stats indicate the risk associated with some BAME ethnicities range from only a few % to at worse the equivalent of being a few years older

btw, sex seem to be a greater risk than ethnicity:
I examined the German stats, which show men within each age group have ~2.5 x the risk of women, once we weight for the increaingly higher % of women in age 70+ groups

'Passport to Kent' is latest attempt to prevent border chaos after a no-deal Brexit in January

Torygraph continues to express displeasure with BJ, but may also be going off Gove
(who would ever be "on" him ?)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/09/23/passport-kent-latest-attempt-prevent-border-chaos-no-deal-brexit/

Michael Gove says police will have tech on hand to enforce Kent Access Permit
but critics accuse him of creating an internal border

Police patrols will turn away lorries entering Kent without a special access pass
to ease border chaos caused by a no-deal Brexit on January 1, the Government admitted for the first time on

< did Brexiters realise in the ref that they were voting for a border around Kent and Kent Access permits ?? >

@red For Christmas, we must have a 12 Days of Christmas challenge on Westministenders
to predict all the Brexit goodies to come

• Kent alone looks providing an entire table full

@BigChocFrenzy

@red For Christmas, we must have a 12 Days of Christmas challenge on Westministenders to predict all the Brexit goodies to come

• Kent alone looks providing an entire table full

Noted.

Alternative headline:

'Trust a government app, that gives 1/3 false positives, so you can visit your vulnerable relatives'

Let me think about this for 2 and a half seconds.

Erm. No.

Trust a test that gives 30% false negatives 'so you can visit your vulnerable relatives'

I hadn't realise that Brits losing FOM meant losing FOM to Kent as well as to the EU

There could be Kent Internal Patrols to monitor the Kent borders
... called Kippers !

Is Kent now in France?

This will not help the idea that the Uk is all in this together:

"Chauffeur-driven cars will be exempt from new laws forcing passengers to wear masks in taxis to slow the spread of coronavirus, Downing Street has said."

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/sep/23/uk-coronavirus-live-news-restrictions-government-pmqs-covid-latest-updates?page=with:block-5f6b49f78f0804b332904783

DH mentioned ships with flags of convenience, and suspects that haulage firms will re register their lorries in Ireland to get round the rules. Would that be possible? All I can predict is that if there are dodges and wheezes to get round the rules, they will be found PDQ.

Chauffeur-driven cars will be exempt from new laws forcing passengers to wear masks in taxis to slow the spread of coronavirus, Downing Street has said.

is that mini cabs as well?

My brain is fried with how they think this boarder around Kent will
Possibly work..... my sister lives in Kent - and possibly has everything she needs- but what if she needs furniture delivered? Will it cost extra because of extra admin?
They are also looking at a renovation.... what will happen about building materials?

I skirt the edge of the horse industry? Horse lorries? Going to and from competitions and trainings?

What I can see happening is this government finally breaking the unbreakable bond between Kent and the Conservative party..... as it's going to be a shambles..... of epic proportions......

I can't believe they aren't going "actually this is impossible" and finding a way to back out......

I just can't see how it will be policed either.

If it breaks the bond between Kent and the Tory party (especially the one in its current form) that will IMO be a good thing. We might then see proper electoral reform. This itself isn't a panacea but it would be a start.

Tragically, proportionally higher deaths in minority groups have occurred, but when we examined ONS breakdowns on the stats threads, the differences seemed mostly related to occupation (public-facing) and deprivation levels

Bigchoc - well, yes. If you look at South African companies which have conducted widespread employee testing, they tend to be ones which employ large numbers of historically disadvantaged South Africans working in conditions that require do not readily permit physical distancing. I expect if you broke down the figures, managers would have a lower death rate than manual workers. Nevertheless, I'm talking about a large sample, of working age individuals, in which the proportion individuals tested was very high (not just symptomatic individuals but widespread screening), and the CFR was still nearly 1%.

"Kermits" won't break the bond between Kent and the Conservative Party because it's all the bullying EU's fault

I am not sure that is true prettybird. 50 years ago, no one thought that the main UK parties would get themselves virtually wiped out in Scotland.

But I agree, Kent will blame the EU, especially for stuff which hasn't much to do with the EU like illegal immigrants.

That's true Peregrina

It used to accurately be said that Monkeys in Red Rosettes would get in in many Labour constituencies in Scotland

I'm waiting for 🐿 "bdelloid rotifers reproduce exclusively by female parthenogenesis, therefore a de facto Kent border is fiiiiiiine" 🐿

(After Hans Steininger and Sagittarius A*, this is the third in my impromptu ongoing series of irrelevant but actually true observations, that may be used as non sequiturs to justify anything at all).

Doesn’t Farage live in Kent? Wonder how he feels about it...