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Westminstenders: Pah International Law. Who needs it?

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RedToothBrush · 12/09/2020 18:09

I mean its not as if trade deals and human rights are relevant is it?

(sorry eating my dinner so must be brief)

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wherearemychickens · 14/09/2020 22:41

I mean, I thought it would be a shitshow, but at every single possible inflection point, it feels like we've gone down the worst possible route.

wherearemychickens · 14/09/2020 22:43

Shame on all of them

Sostenueto · 14/09/2020 22:43

340 for 263 against. Radio 4 reckon 15-20 Tories abstained.

Sostenueto · 14/09/2020 22:44

My MP votes with the Government on everything!

ListeningQuietly · 14/09/2020 22:45

Nothing to see here
move along now
join the lorry queue
there's a good sheeple

Pepperwort · 14/09/2020 22:45

I never imagined British culture would willingly walk back into the Victorian age, or the social engines of patronage and familial connections. It’s been the proverbial frog sitting in the slowly boiling pond. Brexit was always a dud though.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 22:47

This study into anxiety ended BEFORE the Covid crisis began
Stressed people make poor choices and are desperate for a unicorn to solve their problems

www.theguardian.com/society/2020/sep/14/uk-has-experienced-explosion-in-anxiety-since-2008-study-finds

There has been an “explosion” in anxiety in Britain over the past decade, research has shown, with the financial crash, austerity, Brexit, climate change and social media blamed for massive rises in the condition.

Pepperwort · 14/09/2020 22:48

Aren’t there 364 Tory MPs?

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 22:49

No surprise with an 80 majority:

A Tory MP saying he disagrees with the govt is very different to having the courage of their convictions and actually voting against them

BJ / Cummings sacked all the brave ones they could spot

Darker · 14/09/2020 22:50

Every single MP who voted for this should be deselected by their local constituency for failing to abide by their election promises.

Emilyontmoor · 14/09/2020 22:54

Pepperwort The DUP voted with the government.....

AuldAlliance · 14/09/2020 22:54

Fucksakes. What a bunch of self-serving arseholes those MPs are.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst yes, I'm not far from Marseille. Things here getting bad... Huge celebrations on the Vieux Port this weekend after the footie because OM beat PSG. No masks, no social distancing...
People have Covid fatigue and the effects could be pretty grim.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 22:55

“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone,
“it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.”

“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean so many different things.”

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – that’s all.”

Emilyontmoor · 14/09/2020 22:58

Naomi Long on the issue www.facebook.com/alliancepartyni/videos/247124609916403/?vh=e&extid=TP1qJbEDNtvBKZjp

Menomadness · 14/09/2020 22:59

I am shocked (although shouldn't be) at the numbers who voted this through.
The narrative already on one of my town fb page is the big bad EU and Boris will show 'em who's boss, memes about Ed and bacon sandwiches and for those who think they know everything about COVID is we are all sheeple and being controlled.
I despair! Again a thank you for the sanity here.

Menomadness · 14/09/2020 23:01

Thank you Big choc for the info on finding votes.

Pobblebonk · 14/09/2020 23:08

So the message has gone out loud and clear from the government that breaking the law doesn't matter. I think that's the end of the Rule of 6.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 14/09/2020 23:13

Fucks sake. Inevitable but still. Need to get Irish passports for the kids now then.

wherearemychickens · 14/09/2020 23:15

All this guff about blockades is seeding the ground for no deal isn't it. To people who aren't engaged and paying attention, that's the bit that is going to filter through as a message now and when the food is stuck in lorries because we haven't sorted our infrastructure out, they will have laid the groundwork for EU blaming.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 14/09/2020 23:26

wherearemychickens yes. Depressing, isn't it.

Auld it all sounds grim. Stay safe (as safe as you can, given the environment you are in)

Hadn't expected to see such a huge majority. I see the whole of the SNP abstained. How does that actually help?

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 23:31

@wherearemychickens

All this guff about blockades is seeding the ground for no deal isn't it. To people who aren't engaged and paying attention, that's the bit that is going to filter through as a message now and when the food is stuck in lorries because we haven't sorted our infrastructure out, they will have laid the groundwork for EU blaming.
... Yep, that may even be the main purpose behind this: Spreading lies about an EU blockade, before the Kent / ports logjams in January Oven-ready scapegoat
BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 23:34

david allen green@davidallengreen

So the majority of MPs who voted for the Withdrawal Agreement have now voted for the government to breach it 🤦🏻‍♀️

A surreal, absurd parliamentary moment

Simon Nixon@Simon_Nixon

Get Brexit Undone 🤦🏻‍♀️

tantamountto · 15/09/2020 00:25

Yes. What are the SNP playing at?

BigChocFrenzy · 15/09/2020 00:36

Votes on 2nd reading and on Labour amendment
Click icon thumb up / down for details of which parties and MPs voted

votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons?SearchText=united+kingdom+internal+market+bill&FromDate=14%2F09%2F2020&ToDate=14%2F09%2F2020

Sostenueto · 15/09/2020 05:17

Well I'm not too confident that the Lord's will Chuck the Bill out...

As things stand, this bill is deeply unlikely to make it through the House of Lords, so expect a painful back and forth over many weeks that could suck up parliamentary time, effort and political oxygen when the government is trying to deal with another big crisis.

To try perhaps to avert some of that, Boris Johnson held a conference call with Conservative peers on Monday night, but one of those listening was rather less than complimentary of what the prime minister had to say.