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Westminstenders: Pah International Law. Who needs it?

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RedToothBrush · 12/09/2020 18:09

I mean its not as if trade deals and human rights are relevant is it?

(sorry eating my dinner so must be brief)

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DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 15:40

For completeness Smile

www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/content/103778

Can Canadian citizens receive British knighthoods and damehoods?

...

Completely forgot Conrad Black under ... Tony Blair. Which serves to remind us that all the horrors this government are inflicting on us were built on smaller steps Sad

If - as it seems - the UK generally has no time for what Tony Blair has to say, and we all suffer, he can look himself in the mirror and say: I did this.

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 15:40

DG Imagine the furore if the UK extradited a Brit to the USA under promise of no death penalty ... and then the USA reneged on that agreement,
say a defendant where there was considerable UK popular wish for leniency because of e.g. MH or LD issues and / or being a teenager (which hasn't stopped past US executions)

However, the UK govt would just have to suck it up
probably wouldn't even dare refuse the next extradition, because the UK on its own is too vulnerable to sanctions

BigChocFrenzy · 14/09/2020 15:46

Non-Brits can at least receive those "honorary" knighthoods & damehoods

Recipients range from Geldorf to a surprisingly long list of US Presidents & other politicians

https://www.thegazette.co.uk/awards-and-accreditation/content/103441

Horrible thought:
I hope BJ doesn't give Trump an honorary knighthood !

  • I wouldn't put it past him to buy an FTA like that, Trump's vanity has no bounds
It would be a bad example of corruption for both countries, but good personally for the 2 unscrupulous bastards
HilaryThorpe · 14/09/2020 15:47

DGR I am lucky enough to have a wonderful letter my mother wrote to a friend about the bombing and the cleaning up afterwards. I think every one of the children and grandchildren has taken it into school for WW2 history lessons.

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 15:56

DG Imagine the furore if the UK extradited a Brit to the USA under promise of no death penalty ... and then the USA reneged on that agreement,

I think I would have to imagine - not being a lawyer I can't be definitive, but I really can't recall a case where someone was extradited to the US under an agreement "not to seek the death penalty" and that agreement has then been reneged on. (Such a scenario was written into a "Law & Order" years ago, interestingly enough, which is how I came to know about it ...).

Certainly a casual Google doesn't throw up any cases.

I know that if I were representing a client arraigned for extradition to the UK, where I was in the world, I would happily use the current willingness of the UK to apparently renege on a treaty as fodder for their case. A lot would hinge on whether it became real or not - so it's all down to whether the bill jumps its commons readings, Lords readings, and whether Her Majesty is happy to sign it, knowing if she does, then her place as "Leader we'd trust to look after the handbags" (after Elton) is gone forever. Who knows. Maybe after a lifetime of impeccable service even Lizzie Two wants to Break Bad for a bit ?

When we called them "The Bad Boys of Brexit" (and that does have weirdly homo-erotic undertones now I type it) it was a retrospective description, not an aspirational challenge.

quiteathome · 14/09/2020 16:06

I blame DC for triggering all of this. It is his fault.

Now am just angry at all of them.

The weather is gorgeous though.

And as for Covid I hate them calling it 'The Rule of 6' it is not fun. And encouraging people to snitch on their neighbours feels wrong. Where will it end.

Sostenueto · 14/09/2020 16:07

Sooo Boris is now going to introduce his Bill in HoC as a last minute change. Gove will end it. I wonder why sudden change as Boris wasn't coming at all? Could it be that Kier Starmer is not going to be there?(isolating as family member has symptoms) so when the cats away Boris comes out to play ....coward.

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:21

@HilaryThorpe

DGR I am lucky enough to have a wonderful letter my mother wrote to a friend about the bombing and the cleaning up afterwards. I think every one of the children and grandchildren has taken it into school for WW2 history lessons.

well that was a waste of time then.

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 14/09/2020 16:36

2bees glad your son is better. Sorry to hear about the poor measures - disappointing but not surprising. Profits before people Angry

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:38

@ICouldHaveCheckedFirst

2bees glad your son is better. Sorry to hear about the poor measures - disappointing but not surprising. Profits before people Angry
You may want to return your dictionary ....
JamieLeeCurtains · 14/09/2020 16:39

I'm watching it live, god help me.

Johnson is gibbering already about the Internal Market Bill being kind of in the manifesto. Ffs.

prettybird · 14/09/2020 16:41

Oh Fuck Off BJ Angry

Do not fucking use the Act of Union "bringing together two countries" to create an economic powerhouse as a justification for you breaking International Law Angry

Scotland could just as easily decide that it no longer wishes to recognise the Union - and ironically, under the UN Right to Self-Determination, would have more justification in doing so than his self-serving and fallacious excuses that he can pick and choose which laws to follow. Confused

prettybird · 14/09/2020 16:42

I've had to turn over Wink

JamieLeeCurtains · 14/09/2020 16:43

Johnson is now conflating sanitary & phytosantitary regulatory measures with Internal Market Bill provisions.

He's such a lying shit.

Unless he's thick enough to just not understand - but I don't believe it. He's lying to the House, quite deliberately.

Sostenueto · 14/09/2020 16:44

He wasn't going to introduce his Bill. He's only doing so cos Starmer isn't there.
Baroness Hale president of supreme Court is against bill.

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:44

@JamieLeeCurtains

I'm watching it live, god help me.

Johnson is gibbering already about the Internal Market Bill being kind of in the manifesto. Ffs.

That was always going to be the excuse ..

"We need this for Brexit".

"We need that for Brexit".

"We need the other for (wait for it ...) Brexit"

As long as the government claim a bill is "for Brexit" then the brain dead arselicking and frankly contemptible Tory MPs will just wave it through.

Ironically the biggest threat to Brexit is Boris. It really would be a shame if one of the more knuckle dragging members of society suddenly realised that and decided to do something about it.

Pretty certain I could post a map of book depositories that the Tories haven't closed yet around Westminster.

Sostenueto · 14/09/2020 16:46

Oh EU being absurd now! Bloody blithering idiot!

JamieLeeCurtains · 14/09/2020 16:47

Oh god he finally read his own 'oven ready deal' and doesn't like it. Sigh.

JamieLeeCurtains · 14/09/2020 16:48

'EU threats' ...

YOU SAID THIS WAS THE OVEN READY DEAL YOU TWAT

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:49

@Sostenueto

Oh EU being absurd now! Bloody blithering idiot!
Let's see what the RoW says. This is entirely for UK consumption only.

Speaking of which ... I returned my Italian referendum slip. Didn't need to resort to a dictionary - I could understand the letter and the instructions, if not the political system.

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:53

Seems China and EU have reached an accord. On cheese too (which seems to be international trolling at it's best. Chapeau ! La belle Francais Smile)

www.msn.com/fr-fr/actualite/monde/accord-entre-bruxelles-et-p%c3%a9kin-sur-les-appellations-prot%c3%a9g%c3%a9es-des-aliments-export%c3%a9s/ar-BB191a7W

quiteathome · 14/09/2020 16:53

He was always going to put his oven ready deal in the microwave....

DGRossetti · 14/09/2020 16:57

Oh, and

www.msn.com/fr-fr/actualite/monde/brexit-lue-pr%c3%aate-%c3%a0-reporter-sa-d%c3%a9cision-sur-la-compensation-en-euro/ar-BB191acB?li=BBoJvSH

LONDON (Reuters) - Brussels is considering delaying its decision on whether UK clearing houses can continue to operate on euro transactions from their European Union (EU)-based clients in reaction to London's plan to review the Brexit deal, a source in the derivatives industry said on Monday.

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C'est un bon idee lire quelquechoses en une langue hors d'Anglais quelquetemps. N'est ce pas ?

Tanith · 14/09/2020 17:00

Anyone feeling like a talented transport entrepreneur? Or just a member of the Conservative party would do...

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/talented-transport-tech-start-ups-to-receive-funding-boost-of-over-1-million

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