Westminstenders: Run Forrest Run

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Need i say more?

I'm watching taskmaster.

Oh, imagine a brexit version!!!!

Gove, JRM, BJ, Raab, Patel....a vertitable smorgasbord of venal, self serving, lying thundercunts.

go for Brexit-lite

There is no longer any such thing as Brexit-lite.

Brexit will be shit, and whether it's a hard Brexit with a skinny trade deal or a hard Brexit with no trade deal is largely irrelevant for most people (unless you personally export goods to the EU that will be subject to a chunky WTO tariff, or work for a company that does).

I think it's not unreasonable to assume that 90% of the forthcoming is already baked in and is not avoidable.

And the confederacy of dunces in Downing Street know it, because they are building not one but four lorry parks.

I'd not met Taskmaster.
I think I've found what to watch when I run out of Midsomer Murders and Abandoned Engineering

Is that pro-Brexit farmer woman still around on MN? I must say I wonder what she feels about the prospect of no deal. Deal/no-deal probably not a big deal at the whole economy level (they are both bad, but one is moderately more shit than the other) but no deal is crushingly, existentially worse for farmers.

There is no longer any such thing as Brexit-lite.
There is
and the trade deal is oven ready
its just that its not what was voted for in December
single market

And the confederacy of dunces in Downing Street know it, because they are building not one but four lorry parks.
None of which are near the points of entry so the whole of the South Coast will have to be a police state lockdown
that will go well

Mistigri
Yup Derxa can be found on any farming / meat related threads
I presume she still lurks on here

As Dmitry the indispensable Australian trade pundit put it on Twitter:

"If you're up in arms over what WFH is doing to beloved mom and pop store Pret, wait until you see what suddenly facing EU tariffs means for British farmers."

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Wtf have I missed?

3 posts by one person have been removed because she lost her temper at the C&P star
much less dramatic than it sounded

Sometimes, there's just too much good news...

www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/aug/28/barnier-flabbergasted-uk-attempt-reopen-brexit-specialty-food-drink-debate

The UK government has renewed its attempt to reopen the chapter of the Brexit divorce treaty protecting specialty food and drink, such as Parma ham, roquefort cheese and champagne, in a move that left the EU chief negotiator, Michel Barnier, “a little bit flabbergasted”.

The British proposal on protected status for food and drink was included in a draft free-trade agreement handed to Barnier by his opposite number, David Frost, last week, according to two EU sources.

But EU officials have ruled out diluting the divorce deal provisions that protect more than 3,000 high-end food and drink products from copycats. “It’s just not going to happen,” said one official.

The withdrawal agreement signed between Boris Johnson and EU leaders last October preserves the status of food and drink protected under the EU’s geographical indications (GI) policy. A top priority for EU trade negotiators, these rules bar English or Spanish vintners from calling their sparkling wine champagne, for example, while only crumbly cheese from Greece can be labelled feta. Under the withdrawal treaty, the protection applies “unless and until” a new deal can be negotiated.

(contd)

So either Boris lied to his MPs or he was outwitted by the EU. I look forward the third option that will be spoon fed to the UK media.

Seems Scotland saw 52/48 and decided it could do better.

63% of Scottish voters believe Scotland would vote Yes to independence if there is an independence referendum next year.

A poll by Panelbase for Business for Scotland (BfS) asked the question: If there was a referendum on Independence in 2021, what side do you think would win?

Excluding the don’t knows, 63% thought that Scotland would vote Yes.

The poll identified respondents by how they voted in the 2019 General Election and within this poll 62% of Labour voters also thought that Yes would win.

Including the don’t knows the results were:

• 22% Too close to call

• 29% No would win

• 49% Yes would win
60% believe that the Scottish Parliament has the right to call an independence referendum.

The survey also asked: If the Scottish Parliament contains a majority for independence after the next Scottish elections (May 2021) should the Scottish Parliament be able to call

an official independence referendum, with or without Westminster permission?

60% thought that an independence majority of SNP and Greens and not just a single party SNP majority offered a democratic mandate for a new independence referendum.

Including the don’t knows the results were:

• 52% agree an independence majority constituted a nominate for a new referendum

• 13% were unsure

• 35% didn’t agree

Opinion by Gordon MacIntyre-Kemp:

The First Minister has stated that the Scottish Government will introduce legislation to allow for a new referendum. We assume that a Yes majority in the 2021 Scottish elections

would therefore lead to an autumn 2021 referendum. That 63% think that Scotland would vote for independence is significant, given that is 8% more than the 55% who stated

they would support independence in the same poll.

What makes this poll so interesting for political analysts is that (including don’t knows) only 29% think the union would prevail in a new independence referendum and only 35%

think that an independence majority after Holyrood 2021 did not constitute a democratic mandate to hold such a referendum.

Looking beneath the headline figures, this poll actually suggests that support for the union – and faith that the union will survive such a referendum – has hit rock bottom and is now a minority position.

Notes:

This survey generated 1,011 responses between August 12 and August 18. It polled Scottish based voters over the age of 16.

So Prettybird is locked down but hitting the fizzy wine !!!

And in other news
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54002880
They really should be more imaginative as Porton Down know how to treat Novichok

Derxa wasn't pro-Bexit at all if memory serves, she just tended to small c conservative and didn't like Corbyn.

That was my memory of Derxa too MaxNormal - not pro-Brexit but didn't like Labour, so conflicted. Iirc, she was/is in the Borders (can't remember which side of the border) but a No-Deal Brexit would crucify her.

Oh yes that's her. I can't say I remember the exact detail of her Brexit views, though why any farmer would vote for a hard Brexit Tory manifesto is beyond me. A minority Corbyn govt might have lasted one Christmas; Brexit is forever.

I admit to finding it very hard to have sympathy for people who literally got exactly what they voted for (especially when they also voted for me to not have a vote anywhere, and to have to apply to stay in my own home).

*63% of Scottish voters believe Scotland would vote Yes to independence if there is an independence referendum next year.
*
Can the union still be saved? Really hard to see a way for it to survive right now. The CONS can't easily argue that Scottish voters should put their economic interests ahead of sovereignty.

@Mistigri

*63% of Scottish voters believe Scotland would vote Yes to independence if there is an independence referendum next year. * Can the union still be saved? Really hard to see a way for it to survive right now. The CONS can't easily argue that Scottish voters should put their economic interests ahead of sovereignty.

I suspect a graph of pro-independence sentiments plotted along the same timeline of Tory Unionist guff would show a definite correlation.

Northern Ireland have been sold down the river
Scotland are pissed off
Wales are pissed off
London is pissed off

Bring back the independent kingdom of Wessex

Classy
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/02/cummings-recruit-sacked-after-suggesting-police-use-live-rounds-on-blm-protesters

[quote ListeningQuietly]Classy
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/02/cummings-recruit-sacked-after-suggesting-police-use-live-rounds-on-blm-protesters[/quote]
Two for two then on the hiring protocols. Interesting that "he was interviewed in person by Ben Warner". All quite a cosy club going on there between Leave campaign and the 2019 Election --and other conservatives. The Aussie connection explaining the possible new role for Tony Abbott?

DrBlackbird
If their salaries are being paid out of the public purse, such recruitment practices are well out of order.
Any council who recruited in that way would (rightly) get ripped by the right wing press and Private Eye.
Cummings/ Johnson should not be exempt

@ListeningQuietly

Northern Ireland have been sold down the river Scotland are pissed off Wales are pissed off London is pissed off

Bring back the independent kingdom of Wessex

And the independent city state of London.