Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

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Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

I've contacted the HoC to let them know which MPs have a previous history of conspiring to obtain reporters addresses and do violence to them.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/investigation-house-commons-ip-address-18391742

Parliament said it is urgently looking into an email sent to presenter Dan O'Hagan which he believes came from a House of Commons device

A UK Parliament invesatigation has been launched after a TV presenter recieved chilling threats that appear to have come from a House of Commons IP address.

Sports presenter and commentator Dan O'Hagan took to twitter tonight to reveal that he had been targeted with an email from someone threatening to find out his home address.

He posted the email, which said: "Hi Dan, I'm working very, very hard to acquire your address.

"You cannot be allowed to belittle, mock and intimidate working class white men, whilst peddling your bourgeoisie, privileged leftism in your highly paid career.

(contd)

The spelling and grammar alone must limit the suspects to a few hundred.

@prettybird

Funnily or not enough, I didn't experience any state v private prejudice when I went to St Andrews in 1978. Most of the teasing I got was because I was a young, naive 17.5 year old (even though I was "old" for my year, I went after S5, which is the equivalent of Y12).

I do remember that the worst snobbery & affectations (fortunately not in my Halls of Residence) were from the nouveaux riches and not from the genuinely "landed gentry" who were usually pretty self-effacing.

DD goes to two different childcare provisions in our area. One is very new money and the other is very much old money. In one, there are shiny SUVs. In the other, there are battered old horse boxes towed by ancient Land Rovers Everyone is very nice at both locations but the difference is amusing. (We don't live in either area, can't afford them!)

Saw that on Twitter DGR. Hopefully it'll turn into a nice big juicy scandal and not fade into nothingness like so many things do.

I went to Edinburgh at 17, turned 18 shortly after. No trouble getting drunk during Fresher's Week.
In first year, I did German (way more Scots students than English), French (a mixed bag, including a former deputy head of Eton with a racy red convertible, at a time when most people had bikes at best) and Social Anthropology (full of braying toffs in yak wool jumpers back from a gap year in Guatemala...).
Interesting contrast.
Library desks full of graffiti reflecting serious animosity between Scottish and English students, but little tension in class, IIRC; also v little mingling.

Threatening to beat up Journos? Who do we know who'd do a thing like that?

Matty's been homiligising us, lecturing about how it's our civic duty to sign up to the spyware. We must give thanks for Lady Di(do) and Serco who are saving us in our hour of need.

And don't go on any of those demos, says Matty, who feels as bad about poor Goerge Whatsisname as the rest of you, maybe more, but he doesn't go rioting so neither should you.

Old I went to a mid-range Indie and have had a range of put downs from both sides

Not sure where the mid-range is. But in the U.K. generally you’re too posh in one room and not posh enough in another.

Also some bother with Jenrick's non-relationship with Porn King Dickie Desmond and the £40m he saved on his gaffe, closely followed by a £12k donation to Tory funds, which nobody saw coming.

Sounds like a stingy git along with everything else.

Matty's been homiligising us, lecturing about how it's our civic duty to sign up to the spyware. We must give thanks for Lady Di(do) and Serco who are saving us in our hour of need.

That's guaranteed I won't.

And don't go on any of those demos, says Matty, who feels as bad about poor Goerge Whatsisname as the rest of you, maybe more, but he doesn't go rioting so neither should you.

And that's guaranteed that I will go on the next one. Twofer, as MiL (spit) would have said.

A shame they never put a Thatcher statue up in Grantham for us to tear down.

Germany has had 1.5m all along, even during lockdown
It worked out Ok for us.

We're expecting ft school in late August, after the summer vacation here, so I presume that 1.5m will be scrapped, possibly only for schools

So who knew - Dido in charge of communicating policy.....
Taking the privatisation of government to a new level....

imo, pt school was necessary initially here - Germany -
because schools reopened on 4 May, only 3-4 weeks after peak deaths.

Apart from anything else, to reassure parents & teachers that it wouldn't significantly increase cases,

However, pt school, even combined with online learning for ft education,
should only be for a transition period before the long vacation.

Kids need the routine of ft school after the vacation

• so do parents even if they aren't in paid work -

and teachers must also be finding the blended education is a lot more work & stress for them.

Teachers here have won a lot of respect for their work in this crisis
.... but national & local government took responsibility and worked with them & the unions the whole time,

instead of trying to shift blame onto them

People are a lot more willing to try things when they are consulted from the beginning and not used as handy scapegoats for a clueless govt

Lady Dido was up before a HoC ctee earlier, where she admitted that the Track & Trace system was not yet "Gold Standard" but was "Functioning."

"The Most Diverse Govt In History" says Matty.

Old Etonians from four continents.

Paramedics invited not to download the track and trace app
because if one of the team gets it, the whole lot have to sign off work for two weeks ....

That doen't make sense at all.
If paramedics are weaing apropriate PPE, they will not be considered as having had 'close contact' with someone with covid. That will work with the other teams members in the ambulance.
I am also not aware that the whole taem will have to self isolate. If someone has been flagged up as being in contact with someoe testing positive, only that person will be in self isolation, not anyone other members of the family.

Besides, the whole T&T is mainly based on talking to people to know who they have been in contact with. The fact they have been in ambulance would come out anyway, T&T app or not.

JeSuisPoulet
Yes, I have heard from some Canterbury friends that she is well liked.

I had an interview at Durham Uni in 1988. The interviewer asked me:
'do you row'? I had been at an average state schools so, no, I did not.
I said so. He said: 'oh, I think you will find you won't fit in here, where else are you applying to?''. (answer Hull) I wanted to study History. I was not confident enough to ask why the heck rowing mattered.
So, I went to London to work for a 3 years then got into Ed as a mature student. The Kings School girl referred to the lady that cleaned the rooms as 'a bedder, well, a maid really'. I pointed out that her job was as a cleaner (who appreciated a civil word and the box of Roses I bought her at Christmas) and as a local lady of around 50, probably didn't appreciate being referred to as a 'maid' by an 18 yr old (posh English lassie). Next time I spoke to 18 year old she said she thought it was 'really sweet' that I 'remembered Abba from the first time around'. I was only 3 years older than her but I guess a world away in life experience. I liked her but she was v. young and a bit silly.

There were quite a few hooray henries at Edinburgh at the time.
Mostly in Medicine, Law, Fine Art and Arch and Anth :)

Just going to admit that I studied Arch but honestly although all public/private schools they were decent kids.
A bit clueless at times but decent.

"she admitted that the Track & Trace system was not yet "Gold Standard" but was "Functioning."

I read that it would only reach the glorious level of "functioning" by October

There is no Gold Standard, just Godawful Standard

news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-26-985-people-told-to-self-isolate-by-governments-test-and-trace-scheme-12004791

One third of people who tested positive for coronavirus could not be reached by the government's contact tracing system, or refused to hand over their contacts.

U.K. generally

Do you mean England generally? Are Scotland and Wales quite so class conscious? As for NI, isn't this a more religious plus class divide?

Sorry if a bit of a derail on a Brexit thread
But whilst I don't think: 'all OE's / OW / OH etc; automatically bad'
I DO think that there is an arrogance and lack of accountability to 'the common man' that CAN be bred in such places and we are suffering a bad dose of it as a country right now as it has formed an unholy alliance with a determination to rip out established structures almost for the sake of it and replace with personal cronies with DC and BJ?

Sorry, I'm not the most eloquent contributor to these threads (by far!)

midwestsummer
my neighbour in halls was a decent kid too I didn't mean to say that she wasn't. But yes she was a bit clueless. (as most certainly was I, just in different ways).
And I don't think all Public Schools produce ALL caricature arrogant toffs either. But I do think Boris Johnson is a classic example.
With DC, there's a horrible weird thing going on that is very bad for us.

The UK has a rightwing populist ruling elite elected and with a mandate for Brexit
who lied and successfully convinced a plurality of voters that the left & centre are the elite.

As in the USA, this strategy of sophisticated psyops / lying enabled the most unscrupulous populist side of the rightwing elite to come to power,
not the traditional conservative party which has at least some sense of responsibility for those who are not privileged.

One third of people who tested positive for coronavirus could not be reached by the government's contact tracing system, or refused to hand over their contacts.

A cunning use of numbers there, with the "or". I'd be curious to know the split. Is that (from 100%) 1% could not be contacted and 32% told the tracers exactly where they could stick their gooseberry surprise (callback to Reggie Perrin from another thread ....)