Westminstenders: Just another DEADline

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Today is the last scheduled day for talks with the EU.

We have til 30th June to ask for a transition extension. We won't.

That leaves us starring down the barrel of a no deal exit, when we still could be in a covid-19 crisis and the US may be in turmoil given recent events and the coming election...

It's not a pretty picture.

Melassa
The Economist says the same.
Hence why the EU has no incentive to drag the UK back in so long as there are Brexiters in the cabinet.

Hence why the EU has no incentive to drag the UK back in so long as there are Brexiters in the cabinet.

Even then, why would they bother ? If people reading this think the divisions Brexit has produced in UK discourse are limited to the UK, they are wrong. I can't see the UK being welcome in whatever the EU becomes for at least one if not two generations. Fool me once, etc.

And quite apart from the sentiment of it all, there's the practical. I can't see any reason why the fabled US-UK "trade" deal would not tie the hands of any future parliament in even using the acronym "EU", let alone discuss rejoining. We don't need to invite 3m people from Hong Kong here to learn how it feels to be held subservient to an oppressive regime. We can actually live that dream.

Even without Brexiteers there is no incentive, as long as there remains a- the English sense of exceptionalism and superiority and b- the misguided idea on the part of the U.K. that there is a special relationship with the US and that the U.K. is an equal partner in this relationship. As long as the British remain the US’s lapdog the EU is better off without the U.K.

I agree with melassa and i've said for a long time that the EU should stop pandering to the UK. Yes that means its going to be shit for the UK but tbh it is quite damaging for the EU so...

There are talks about integrating the EU even more following covid. The UK would never have let that pass, even in the current circumstances.
So yes, brexit is a good thing for the EU.

I agree with melassa and i've said for a long time that the EU should stop pandering to the UK. Yes that means its going to be shit for the UK but tbh it is quite damaging for the EU so...

The article in La Repubblica is fascinating. From little snippets I've seen these past weeks it's crystalling two emerging views across the EU ...

1. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out

and

2. Are you still here ?

I have just seen this:
"
Dominic Cummings also has a project up his sleeve. The senior aid has already set up a panel of experts to advise on a radical overhaul of current planning laws that could see control over decisions taken away from local councils and handed over to development corporations owned by the Government."

How convenient.
inews.co.uk/news/coronavirus-latest-boris-johnson-save-summer-pubs-cafes-restaurants-2877125

Dominic Cummings also has a project up his sleeve. The senior aid has already set up a panel of experts to advise on a radical overhaul of current planning laws that could see control over decisions taken away from local councils and handed over to development corporations owned by the Government

What better way to avoid proper planning scrutiny and get rid of all that land which isn't fit for building on (for now) ?

After all, if we are pissing our food standards down the pan, why not get rid of planning standards too ? Indeed anything which gets between patsy and profit.

Watch - with no amazement at all - as insurers (who are getting quite good at this now) find ways of not covering for floods, subsidence due to mining, and indeed ground level pollutants despite charging 4-figure premiums ....

I remember the master planning done by the Tyne & Wear Development Corporation - on one of its flagship sites they insisted on putting the housing on the most contaminated areas (thus maximising remediation and build costs) and the industrial areas on the less contaminated areas. Government planning at its finest.

Ah well, Town Planning on Tyneside, T Dan and Get Carter and all that. It didn't end well for Michael Caine.

In other news, Colston has fallen. Bagdhad comes to Bristol.

Not knowing Bristol, I had to look that up. Baghdad? Bad.
Goodbye Lenin? Potentially good.

Mockers
The Bristol slaver statues have been vulnerable for a while.
The council could not be seen to take them down so this is mightily covenient.
and utterly right

Does anybody else follow BBB on FB and saw their frothing over the Robert E Lee statue this morning

Sabrina
Not far from me a glue factory was turned into housing.
Only non locals have bought houses where the solvent tanks stood.
Several houses have had to be decontaminated already ....

DGR
Re Planning
Cummings is missing the point there - he'll lose that one.
Certain.

I'm assuming mockers is referencing the Iraqis bringing down Saddams statue (apologies if I've got that wrong mockery..)

Well. The news is horrifying and depressing as per. Some of the headlines are almost parody worthy aren't they?

The STimes has a front page piece on school closures and exam disruption into 2021. As the parent of a Y6 and Y12 I'm pretty concerned. Our poor kids :(

2 suicide attempts that I know of amongst local young people.

I managed to find 16kg bags of flour from amazon. Went a bit mad and bought shed loads of loo rolls, yeast, wet wipes....

I'm watching avenue 5 (worth a watch if you have sky ofnow tv)

Mockery?
Ffs.
mockers

Does anybody else follow BBB on FB and saw their frothing over the Robert E Lee statue this morning

Better Business Bureau ? Not sure they had a stance.

Yes, effing autocarrot

I hope they are going to leave Brunel's ship alone. It's entirely innocent.

DGR
Sorry, I assumed it was already in your radar.
NOT a parody ....
www.facebook.com/britainbitesbackofficial/

Mockers
The Great Britain is not at risk because of the way it was restored

LQ thanks ...

I'm assuming mockers is referencing the Iraqis bringing down Saddams statue (apologies if I've got that wrong mockery..)

I assumed so too, hence my appending the word Bad, seeing how that turned out.

My reference to Lenin - potentially good, was a reference to the Berlin Wall coming down, where the wall was demolished and the statues of Lenin removed. I think they ended up in a park somewhere.

So 15 mins ago we got an email from the school saying the council had delayed the reopening of schools by at least another week.

Cue parents freaking out and others saying how upset their 4 and 5 year kids are who they had prepared to go back this week.

Loads of other councils in the Northwest had already said 15th but because our half term ran an extra week here they had said the 8th.

Complete shitshow.

I'm soooooo glad I'd said 'not just yet'. I had wanted the school to be at the very least running smoothly with new arrangements before even thinking about DS going back.

Was Lenin a "baddie" ?

Stalin, yes. But Lenin ?

Ds2 is enjoying being back but I downplayed it and kept saying "IF school opens..."

Jesus...that BBBpage....fucking hell

I don't know whether Lenin was a 'baddie' per se, but once Communism fell, Marxism-Leninism was no longer fashionable, and the statues were removed.

I heard a story about an East German University, from someone who taught there. The study of Marxism and Leninism had been compulsory, but after the Wall fell and reunification happened, all those in the Philosophy School got the push. This even included those who had been teaching about other philosophies e.g. Greek ideas, which the person telling me thought was extremely unfair.

That Robert E Lee statue photo has been doing the rounds with thickos swallowing it hook, line and sinker.

Perhaps someone needs to ask Tegan to delete it?

Ah, so Sabrina knows BBB

Yoikes the thing with that page is that DH reckons its a parody, I reckon its not.
Neither of us is sure
but I am quite sure that the paid posters like C&P give it a wide swerve

It is genuinely hilarious sometmes

I remember that page when it was first flagged up on these threads - with its polls where 90% of respondents said they wanted to stay in the EU (snigger).