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Westminstenders: Magical Thinking

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RedToothBrush · 24/05/2020 19:39

This week has seen reports of the government editing footage of Johnson to avoid embarrassing questions about the early government response.

We've been asked to accept that the rules were different to what we were told to excuse the law breaking behaviour of a senior government advisor. As Johnson said he was being a responsible father (as if Johnson knows what this is) and it wasn't as if he was visiting a lover (this Johnson would know all about). Let's be honest Johnson is the master of brazening out controversy.

We also have the ERG complaining they were lied to by Gove about the new Withdrawal Agreement and the border in the Irish Sea which surprises precisely no one else.

They appear to be a little upset by the Cummings debarkable too.

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ListeningQuietly · 28/05/2020 13:39

I've been out at work nearly every day of lockdown (different place/s each day).
I've been to the supermarket/s multiple times
and the petrol station

but if I was already immune the testing centre was empty AGAIN today I'm irrelevant to the track and trace surely ?

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 13:41

No 10 statement: the PM considers the matter closed.

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DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 13:52

No 10 statement: the PM considers the matter closed.

So do we tell our politicians what to do ?
Or do they tell us ?

This is getting into very deep - and dangerous - territory.

SabrinaThwaite · 28/05/2020 13:56

Notice how No 10 only refers to the finding that Cummings didn’t act unlawfully by going to Durham, and ignores the finding that Cummings would have been turned back from Barney if the police had stopped him, ie would have been considered to be acting unlawfully.

TheElementsOfMedical · 28/05/2020 14:11

So do we tell our politicians what to do? Or do they tell us?

That Willy Of The People, which supposedly trumps the laws of physics and reality itself, turns out to have some limitations after all.

OhLookHeKickedTheBall · 28/05/2020 14:14

Sorry puss that was a David Allen Green response to thing normally!
Talking of which:
https://twitter.com/davidallengreen/status/1265987139327725573?s=21

MockersxxxxxxxSocialDistancing · 28/05/2020 14:23

Durham Cops say, 'We're not touching this tar-baby, thanks. Bye.'

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 14:26

Now some of us are starting to realise quite why the American colonials took the actions they did. An arrogant government hiding behind a powerless monarch systematically robbing and oppressing it's own people at an oceans distance.

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 14:29

Look ! A Scottish squirrel ...

www.thenational.scot/news/18480998.major-new-poll-shows-63-per-cent-scots-want-indyref2/

THE majority of Scots want a second referendum on independence in the next five years, according to new research.

Polling carried out by Ipsos Mori for BBC Scotland found an overwhelming 63% of Scots want another referendum, with 34% oppose

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 14:31

And from the same front page ... remove a letter and add a letter and what do you have ? A moniker to trend without being pulled by the porn protectors ...

www.thenational.scot/news/18481027.coronavirus-matt-hancock-dubbed-uk-death-secretary/

MATT Hancock has been dubbed the "Death Secretary" as public anger spills over about the UK's excess death rate.

New figures put the UK's rate of excess deaths during the pandemic at the highest in the world.

pussycatinboots · 28/05/2020 15:17

OhLook only concerned that you'd been cut off in your prime Grin or attacked by a cat

DGR Hmm Death Secretary, is that a promotion or a transfer? He's not having a good day year

Peregrina · 28/05/2020 15:25

One could almost feel sorry for Matt Hancock, being dropped into it by dePiffle, and Cummings. Almost, because he could always tender his resignation.

pussycatinboots · 28/05/2020 15:31

But what would he do then?

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 15:40

One could almost feel sorry for Matt Hancock, being dropped into it by dePiffle, and Cummings. Almost, because he could always tender his resignation.

It would be refused. Then what ?

pussycatinboots · 28/05/2020 15:49

It would be refused. Then what ?

Public apology for being a member of this failing Govt.
Agreeing that DC was wrong and broke the law.
Admitting that had we locked down earlier many lives would have been saved and making sure that BJ/DC were blamed directly for this.

He'd get the sack.
It can't be that hard...can it?

spottedelk · 28/05/2020 15:59

What do you mean, refuse his resignation? He can leave the job anytime he wants. It's not possible to force someone to stay in a job.

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 16:04

What do you mean, refuse his resignation? He can leave the job anytime he wants. It's not possible to force someone to stay in a job.

I think you have confused real life, with Tory life.

Peregrina · 28/05/2020 16:05

What would he do? Stay as a complicit backbencher as a part time job and take up some well paid Directorships for the rest of the time.

DGRossetti · 28/05/2020 16:24

Stay as a complicit backbencher as a part time job and take up some well paid Directorships for the rest of the time.

What ? Another one ?

GaspodeWonderCat · 28/05/2020 16:37

Might be worth getting the popcorn out on Tuesday to see how this pans out on Parliament TV.

From the Guardian:
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/28/jacob-rees-mogg-accused-of-bungling-plans-for-commons-return

'the Commons will sit physically on Tuesday after a week-long recess. It will start at 11.30am rather than 2.30pm to debate a government motion on how to proceed.
In a letter to MPs the Speaker, Lindsay Hoyle, said he had agreed to the government plan: “Now that I have agreed to a recall on Tuesday, it is for the government to decide what proposal for voting it wishes to put forward.

“I have been clear to the government and to opposition parties that I would prefer cross-party agreement to be reached about the way in which the house should conduct its proceedings when the house returns, including on how divisions should take place.”
Hoyle said that if the government and opposition were unable to agree a way forward, he would allow amendments (my bold)to the government motion for new procedures.'

pussycatinboots · 28/05/2020 16:42

Gaspode Thanks for the heads up...will buy Pringles (paprika) and Magnums the coffee ones are v nice Grin
I look forward to seeing the response from The Dust Spaffer.

MagisCapulus · 28/05/2020 16:46

What time is the review briefing tonight?

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