Westminstenders: A test of logistic planning

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We are witnessing a demonstration in Government crisis management.

For the past week journalists have asked the same questions and politicians have said they've already done it / are doing it in the near future. But as time wears on, the inability to produce the answers or demonstrate results is proving illusive.

This will have consequences.

It is a demonstration in how planning has proved to be lacking in certain areas.

With Brexit in mind, the lack of vision, coordination with business and wider capability and capacity this does not bode well.

From what I gather, the Italian govt hasn't given adequate financial support, so a few people have resorted to invading supermarkets, to feed their families

What is happening in Italy is that cash-in-hand work is endemic, especially in the south. I am not talking about your man-and-a-van emptying your backyard of rubbish...I know of hairdressers and restaurants that only pay national insurance for half of their staff..I even know a few IT consultants that are paid cash-in-hand.

Now none of these people are eligible for government support, because their jobs have never officially existed. So this is not a problem with the government scheme per-se, but yet another case of chicken coming home to roost.

OK, useful info, Glass
The Black Economy disappearing up its own fundament for a while

DG, Barrique MN search has dropped poster name again ....

What is happening in Italy is that cash-in-hand work is endemic, especially in the south. I am not talking about your man-and-a-van emptying your backyard of rubbish...I know of hairdressers and restaurants that only pay national insurance for half of their staff..I even know a few IT consultants that are paid cash-in-hand.

Clearly aspiring to be a British billionaire then ...

The Italian press reported with incredulity the herd immunity theory.

There were press reports of sick Italians in the U.K. who reported symptoms and no one bothered to test anyone. This includes one who died and his death was botched up to something else and his family were never tested.

The fact that Boris is in ICU was reported the morning after he went to hospital, hours before it was announced in the U.K.

Now it’s reporting on the spiralling death toll.

I tend to read Repubblica and Italy’s version of the FT, so generally reliable press and not scandalmongers. The was some other stuff in the Huff post but it was a bit OTT do I ignored it. There is nothing if the hysterical tone of the U.K. press on the whole. I found a lot of the reporting was over egging and playing to stereotypes. Guardian included. The stories about raiding supermarkets were hyped out of all proportion, for eg.

That was to @Piggywaspushed

Interesting. Thanks.

I tend to read Repubblica and Italy’s version of the FT, so generally reliable press and not scandalmongers

Apart from asking "Who is in charge in the UK ?" ( Chi comanda a Downing Street ? ) , the only other story I picked up on a newsfeed was about our 4th nuclear submarine, for some reason ... excerpt posted for the polyglots ...

Royal Navy, consegnato il quarto hunter killer della classe Astute

L'HMS Audacious (S122), quarto sottomarino d'attacco a propulsione nucleare della Classe Astute, ha raggiunto la base navale di Clyde, in Scozia. Dopo l'addestramento a terra, l'equipaggio dell'HMS Audacious, intraprenderà le prove in mare. Insieme alle due portaerei della classe Queen Elizabeth, la classe Astute rappresenta il nucleo delle capacità offensive della Royal Navy.

Melassa Maybe give a headsup here if the more reliable Italian media reports that BJ has gone on a ventilator, or worse,
if the Uk news release of that is delayed

"Dopo l'addestramento a terra, l'equipaggio dell'HMS Audacious, intraprenderà le prove in mare. Insieme alle due portaerei della classe Queen Elizabeth, la classe Astute rappresenta il nucleo delle capacità offensive della Royal Navy."

Do those aircraft carriers now have planes we don't have to return if Trump wants them ?
Or if the NHS refuses to use BJ as a guinea pig
(a scenario which would cause me to leap in vehement defence of BJ's human rights )

Will do, let me see if I can dig up some of the reports from the past days.

The Boris in ICU story was on Rainews iirc, which is the Italian version of the BBC. Not sure if that’s a good comparison or not these days!

Melassa Maybe give a headsup here if the more reliable Italian media reports that BJ has gone on a ventilator, or worse if the Uk news release of that is delayed

Anyone remember that "Yes Prime Minister" episode when the Prime Minster was better informed that the foreign secretary "Because you've got the TV" ?

I think the people with the most up to date info about Boris will be writing in Russian ...

in the meantime a piece on one of the doctors treating Boris

Apparently he’ll be out of action for weeks

DGR can translate, I’m supposed to be in a conference call

Google translate turned that into English for me and didn't seem to do too bad a job - it largely made sense - although, from context, I'm guessing "fan" was its mistranslation of ventilator.

Anyway, implying BJ will need weeks to recover.

That's actually in the British press today as well.

Sorry to dump and run, I suddenly got asked a question and had to pay attention!

Yes, ventilatore also means fan in Italian

DGR can translate

You flatter me ... basically it's more a puff piece for Luigi Camporota .. You really have to switch minds to read prose like that, it's very ... quaint. Fans of Montalbano will be fascinated to realise that: yes, they really do speak like that

Anyway, TL;DR - the prognosis for someone in Boris' position is recovery takes a long time. So if he is, as my DS would say "begging it" then he's going to have to be absent from our screens, if not our lives and letterboxes, for a few weeks.

Google translate turned that into English for me and didn't seem to do too bad a job

They really do write and talk like that ...

More detail observant people than me might notice the governments new list of shortage professions have changed

www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-appendix-k-shortage-occupation-list

Seems like it would have been simpler to list the skills we don't need. Or maybe just have FOM to keep it simpler?

More detail observant people than me might notice the governments paymasters new list of shortage professions have changed

fixed that for you ...

That's a fascinating list! We have a shortage if artists, trained classical musicians and secondary Mandarin teachers??

So if he is, as my DS would say "begging it" then he's going to have to be absent from our screens, if not our lives and letterboxes, for a few weeks.

I hope so. I hope he takes as long as it needs to get better, and meanwhile let someone else lead the country.

No wonder Trump is so cross with this virus "hoax"
He and his allies want to restart the economy

• because he's lost a billion with the shutdown !

www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/07/donald-trump-lost-1bn-in-a-month-from-coronavirus-lockdown

Trump lost an estimated $1bn of his paper fortune in the past month as the coronavirus lockdown forced the closure of offices, shopping centres, hotels and golf courses he owns.
< snigger >
...

It's a slightly strange list - we need classical ballet dancers, for example. I am not sure why when all entertainment is shut down.