Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Brexit

Westministenders: Crisis, which crisis ?

982 replies

BigChocFrenzy · 29/02/2020 18:25

Main crises facing the government:

. Negotiating a Brexit deal with the EU
. Coronoavirus
. Floods
. Allegations of some ministers - and Cummings - bullying civil servants
. More trouble threatened from Turkey / Syria

Unfortunately with all these parallel crises, we have a workshy lying arse as PM
and the worst collection yet of incompetents in Cabinet
who seem to have decided on a strategy of bullying their civil servants to avoid hearing any facts that don't fit with current Tory party ideology

OP posts:
Thread gallery
24
Mockerswithnoknockers · 10/03/2020 18:26

Uncle Trump sounds like the white sheep of the family.

AuldAlliance · 10/03/2020 18:29

One of the problems with POTUS and his increasingly obvious mental health issues is that he's hollowed out many of the bodies that might have quietly carried on running the country while he raved and surrounded himself with craven incometents.

If you watch the video of him explaining about his genetic ability to master complex science, it's worth looking at the faces of those around him. The man on the right of the screen, notably.

Trump actually said the coronavirus tests (which they didn't have) were beautiful and perfect "like the letter was perfect, the transcription was perfect."

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2020 18:34

According to John Sopel on R4 news tonight I am wrong
it 39 states that have no sick pay Sad

AuldAlliance · 10/03/2020 19:00

incometents...? It's catching. Next thing you know, I'll be incapable of saying anonymous or Missouria and writing about covfefe.

boatyardblues · 10/03/2020 19:51

According to John Sopel on R4 news tonight I am wrong
it 39 states that have no sick pay

DH and I were listening to that segment and were horrified. It also said many people will actively avoid getting tested for corona virus because their insurance co-pays are so high.

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2020 19:52

It also said many people will actively avoid getting tested for corona virus because their insurance co-pays are so high.
Oh yes, deductibles of around $2000 are normal .....

mrslaughan · 10/03/2020 19:56

What's trump doing with his hands? In that video...... it's bizarre- which I shouldn't find surprising.....

midwestspring · 10/03/2020 19:59

To be fair there aren't enough test kits yet anyway so even if people want testing it is unlikely to happen.

That said there is a fair amount of emphasis on shutting schools down for cleaning, if there has been virus contact.

Trump's ICE push in sanctuary cities is also going to put undocumented groups seeking medical support.

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2020 20:03

To be fair there aren't enough test kits yet anyway so even if people want testing it is unlikely to happen.
If South Korea can afford 10,000 a day, the USA could
if it wanted to

That said there is a fair amount of emphasis on shutting schools down for cleaning, if there has been virus contact.
And yet the vast vast bulk of the worldwide deaths have been older people with known health problems

not that I'm cynical mind.

midwestspring · 10/03/2020 20:12

My understanding is that Trump dismantled the public health agency that would be expected to look after such things.
So getting kits is rather hard work for them at present.

midwestspring · 10/03/2020 20:18

www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/health/what-went-wrong-with-the-coronavirus-tests/2020/03/07/915f5dea-5d82-11ea-b29b-9db42f7803a7_story.html%3foutputType=amp

A longer more detailed answer about test shortages.

Individual nursing homes are trying to screen staff. One issue is the Americans react really badly to government telling them what to do.
If/when virus takes a hold here it could get pretty chaotic as a result.

RedToothBrush · 10/03/2020 20:56

m.huffingtonpost.co.uk/amp/entry/uk-scrambling-to-hire-trade-experts-as-talks-open-with-us-and-eu_uk_5e663bfdc5b6055728085279/?__twitter_impression=true
Exclusive: UK Scrambling To Hire 135 Trade Experts As Talks Over US And EU Deals Open
The government will need to hire at least one new negotiator every day until June to plug the staffing gap, in a situation branded "farcical and a real risk".

Boris Johnson’s government has been accused of “heading towards a cliff edge” after it was revealed ministers bidding to sign multiple new trade deals are short of 135 experts.

The UK has opened post-Brexit trade deal talks with the EU and has ambitious plans to run parallel negotiations with the US, Australia, New Zealand and Japan in the months ahead.

But data disclosed to HuffPost UK, via a Freedom of Information request, has shown the government is still desperately short of staff, with trade secretary Liz Truss aiming to fill 135 vacancies for new jobs, including policy, legal and technical experts.

AuldAlliance · 10/03/2020 21:02

One issue is the Americans react really badly to government telling them what to do.
Like the Italians...

(And the French, which is, I suspect, one of the many reasons why the French gvmt is being a bit slow to act: they know many people will ignore restrictions unless things look really bad, will get tired of them fast and will then start ignoring them.)

SwedishEdith · 10/03/2020 22:34

Nadine Dorries diagnosed with coronavirus

Mistigri · 10/03/2020 22:37

Just came to post the same thing.

🤐

SwedishEdith · 10/03/2020 22:40

Nadine Dorries first felt ill last Friday as she was signing a statutory instrument which made coronavirus a 'notifiable' disease

The full symptoms did not kick in until Saturday as she held a constituency surgery in Mid Bedfordshire

Gulp.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 10/03/2020 22:47

My understanding is that Trump dismantled the public health agency that would be expected to look after such things.

That was my understanding too. It was part of the clearing of the swamp of people who disagreed with him wasn’t it?

Apparently Chris Grayling is going to chair the Intelligence and Security committee. WTAF.

HateIsNotGood · 10/03/2020 22:56

It's a brand of flu - some get it, some don't, very few die and most wont.

It's the response to it that makes it different - the Marxist Hate sees the 'crisis' as protecting the means of production; Enviro Hate claps her hands at all the CO2 producing shut downs; Anarchy Hate is waiting for it all to tumble down and Caring Hate is worried about the vulnerable that might succumb.

Real Hate thinks we're very close to Spring and that it is possible to reduce CV by natural seasonal methods.

Hope I'm right and Good Luck All.

yolofish · 10/03/2020 22:58

But Nadine is apparently feeling better now and continuing to self isolate at home. If they shut down Parlt after this (given her busy diary) then I predict if not actual riots then people at least voting with their feed - kids off school, wfh, people with non-essential but away from home based jobs just thinking fuck it.

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 23:24

"It's a brand of flu"

No, it's not any kind of flu
I didn't realise anyone still believed that

Stock markets around the world, the WHO, world leaders trashing their own economies ....

that's a hell of a lot of different people burning billions without obvious benefit to themselves,
in fact a number of those leaders may get booted out

OP posts:
BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 23:27

yolo I think people are pretty used to different rules for the ones at the top

Would anyone have expected this behaviour would suddenly change ?

OP posts:
yolofish · 10/03/2020 23:30

BCF I think if they shut down parlt on Nadine's account there will be big issues. I mean, I dont like the woman and hope she's getting better an all. But one rule for the posh and another for the plebs won't go down well.

RedToothBrush · 10/03/2020 23:34

Doesn't Johnson have to self isolate?

Not that we'd notice the difference.

Anyway. The return of Chris Grayling. To oversee GCHQ, MI5 and M16.

What could possibly go wrong?

I mean. Chris Grayling.

weeps

BigChocFrenzy · 10/03/2020 23:43

"Chris Grayling. To oversee GCHQ, MI5 and M16."

< Checks how many days to 1 April >

red you're way too early !

OP posts:
HateIsNotGood · 10/03/2020 23:46

that's a hell of a lot of different people burning billions without obvious benefit to themselves, in fact a number of those leaders may get booted out

All sounds good to me - put it down to flu - if a virus pulls that pile of shite down I'm happy to call it whatever anyone wants.

The current status quo is far more damaging to all living beings; even in first world countries most of us live a life of the living dead, apparently disguising the futility of our lives through 'purchasing power'.

Bring that nonsense tumblin down. Just a Thought is all.