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The EU has no negotiating strategy - according to the Telegraph

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BeaStoic · 09/02/2020 09:00

The EU is scoffing with panic. This week, its leaders neurotically laughed off the threat of a Parliament shutdown, as bureaucrats slammed their fists over post-Brexit budget cuts. Press officers tuttingly buried an economic report warning that Brexit will rock bloc economies.But they struggled to firefight raging speculation as to who might follow Britain out the door. As rumours rumbled of anItalexitdebt crisis, Marine Le Pen thundered that a global Eurosceptic movement has infiltrated Brussels.

Perhaps the most intriguing development this week, however, isMichel Barnier’s shift in persona. Mere months ago, Mr Barnier was gloomily instructing Britain to sign up to vassalage. Lecture highlights included “why Britain must take responsibility” (by becoming an EU satellite state) and why “choices” (for example liberty) must have “consequences”. But suddenly, the school master has a snake oil salesman. His arid presentations on Britain’s self-inflicted fate have morphed into butterypitches for “a best in class free trade agreement”.

Such a “best in class” deal could be otherwise described as Theresa Mayite vassalage. It entails sucking Britain into megalomaniac defence projects, allowing Brussels toplunder Britain’s fishing waters, and blessing Britain with freedom for the small price of sacrificing its competitiveness. This “exceptional offer” is beinggift-wrappedfree of charge in the tangled red ribbons of state aid paperwork and taxation regulations. Available fora limited time only (expires Dec 2020).

In reality, though Brussels knows that its chance to flog Britain the worst trade deal in history is slipping away. It can no longer fall back on the backstop to keep us locked in Hotel California. Boris Johnson’s thumping majority also means Britain’s "no deal" bargaining chip is back in play:aWTO Brexitwould pass through Parliament reasonably comfortably. Revelations this week that, in the event of no deal,Japanese car giant Nissan would considerdoublingdown on the UK to boost its domestic market share, and protect its Sunderland plant,underline the inconvenient truth:Project Fear premonitions are overblown, andBritain could cope perfectly well without a trade deal.

It is also becoming embarrassingly clear that the EU has no actual strategy. Only the clapped out choreography of a collapsing robo-bureaucracy. The most tedious of its “secret moves” is sequencing. Granted, this was how Brussels tripped up that lurching political equivalent to two left feet, Theresa May. She sealed her fate when she foolishly agreed to settle Northern Ireland before penning a divorce settlement.

But the idea that Boris Johnson’s government would fall for this again is laughable. Still the EU tries its luck: this week Mr Barnier said that before signing up to a trade deal, Britain would have to agree to the EU’s conditions - effectively trying to turn fishing and Gibraltar into the new Irish Border.

Another of the EU’s recycled moves is heel dragging. It intends to bog Britain down with absurd and nonsensically disparate demands until the deadline is near. The idea being that Boris Johnson will feel political pressure to avoid breaking his promise to settle Brexit by the end of the year - and thus sign up to a dud deal.

Britain’s counter-move is already evident - to negotiate trade deals with the United States and other countries, as talks with Brussels flounder; Cummings and co are determined to send out the message that if the EU does not want to engage in talks then that it can go jogging.

Indeed, Trade Secretary Liz Truss announced on Thursday that Britain is seeking huge reductions in tariffs from a trade deal with the United States. The Government also intends to begin negotiations with Japan, Australia and New Zealand in the coming months.

And so the EU gets more and more desperate. In a stumbling tribute to Orwellian doublespeak, its most ridiculous new wheeze is semantic. It is genuinely trying to get Britain to accidentally enslave itself by changing the meaning of basic words.

This includes the preposition “In”. Britain has rejected staying “in” the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions. Brussels’ solution? Offer “access” to the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions.

Then there is the oldest trick of the bureaucratic sociopath: the unflinching lie. My favourite peddled by the EU this week is that free movement must continue as the condition for any trade deal. Even though the EU has, in the Political Declaration, conceded the precise contrary.

It is increasingly clear that Brussels is the new Theresa May of these negotiations. And it is finally heading for a rude awakening.

OP posts:
malylis · 13/02/2020 20:39

WTO?

Who is going to arbitrate? Who is going to rule on schedule disputes?

TheABC · 13/02/2020 20:45

I am not sure what all the frothing is about.

Boris Johnson and Brexit companions have asserted it will be the easiest one to negotiate in history and we will get a great deal.

No-deal (standard WTO rules) will indeed be easy to negotiate. As to how great it it...well, we will find out. I am just glad I am not a customs officer.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 20:50

Who is going to arbitrate? Who is going to rule on schedule disputes?

Nobody. That’s the UK ace up the sleeve.

jasjas1973 · 13/02/2020 20:53

MTA - You bored?

Porkeypine · 13/02/2020 21:02

Interesting

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:02

Its not an ace, it means the UK will trade on WTO terms it currently has under the EU agreements

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:03

@jasjas

No, but Auld, LQ and Malylis seem to be. Killing time with more pointless attempts at;

The leave supporter is not 100% correct. Therefore Brexit must be cancelled.

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:06

No one has said that. Just critiqued reasons is all.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:09

@malylis

EU does not dictate to WTO. In the event of EU and UK not reaching agreement by 31 Dec 2020 the default is WTO from 1 January 2021 and all prior agreements and treaties lapse in accordance with Article 50.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:12

No one has said that. Just critiqued reasons is all

Use of the word stupid does not sound like critique, but very like arrogance and application of remainers’ law;

Only those that know better can vote

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:16

You don't understand again. Poor Mystery and her lack of knowledge of trade rules.

What WTO rules does the UK currently trade under please?

ListeningQuietly · 13/02/2020 21:21

MTA
What do you think the WTO does ?

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:25

@malylis

WTO is the starting point.

@lq

It enables countries to trade without discrimination, but recent US intervention has mostly eliminated the most favoured nation rule.

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:29

Yes but with no court of arbitration there is no changing anything to do with schedules

What Schedules do we currently trade under and will revert to?

ListeningQuietly · 13/02/2020 21:30

It enables countries to trade without discrimination, but recent US intervention has mostly eliminated the most favoured nation rule.
You need to go back to whoever is paying you and get them to give you some new information sources

HenHarrier · 13/02/2020 21:31

The leave supporter is not 100% correct. Therefore Brexit must be cancelled.

Sorry, but hasn’t this already happened?

What WTO rules does the UK currently trade under please?

Virtually all world trade is done under WTO rules, as most countries are WTO members.

The difference is that the vast majority of countries have agreements in place to make trade more frictionless - whether these are FTAs, PTAs or various types of mutual recognition agreements.

The EU has 750 or so agreements, all of which the UK has just removed itself from.

But never mind, we have Liz Truss to Make Britain Great Again.

HenHarrier · 13/02/2020 21:33

Oh yeah, schedules. Seem to remember a few countries has a teensy problem with the UK’s proposed schedules.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:35

The EU has 750 or so agreements, all of which the UK has just removed itself from

750 agreements when there is less than 200 countries in the World?

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:36

Because not all agreements are FTAs many are industry level.

You voted because of trade? You know nothing about it.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:41

@LQ

@malylis

@allothersconmectedtocarmanufacturing

I have read the articles that suggest Brexit and WTO is a potentially catastrophic for the car manufacturers in the UK.

HenHarrier · 13/02/2020 21:42

Yup, 750. There’s a whole online repository. Being the EU it’s all online and easy to find and read.

malylis · 13/02/2020 21:42

Lol.

No actual point to make so revert to some weird gloating.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 21:44

You voted because of trade? You know nothing about it

Paying more into the EU than is returned from the EU in return for a trade deficit sounds like a double loss for the UK to me.

Still waiting for someone to explain how money flowing out exceeds money flowing in is a benefit.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 21:48

Is Mystery a real person, or a team of people in a call centre somewhere?

HenHarrier · 13/02/2020 21:48

There’s a car manufacturing plant very close to where I am. Very reliant on JIT. NTBs will be a bit tricky. But hey ho, this is what we all voted for. Apparently. Especially given that our new Chancellor doesn’t think that an EU FTA is necessary.

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