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The EU has no negotiating strategy - according to the Telegraph

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BeaStoic · 09/02/2020 09:00

The EU is scoffing with panic. This week, its leaders neurotically laughed off the threat of a Parliament shutdown, as bureaucrats slammed their fists over post-Brexit budget cuts. Press officers tuttingly buried an economic report warning that Brexit will rock bloc economies.But they struggled to firefight raging speculation as to who might follow Britain out the door. As rumours rumbled of anItalexitdebt crisis, Marine Le Pen thundered that a global Eurosceptic movement has infiltrated Brussels.

Perhaps the most intriguing development this week, however, isMichel Barnier’s shift in persona. Mere months ago, Mr Barnier was gloomily instructing Britain to sign up to vassalage. Lecture highlights included “why Britain must take responsibility” (by becoming an EU satellite state) and why “choices” (for example liberty) must have “consequences”. But suddenly, the school master has a snake oil salesman. His arid presentations on Britain’s self-inflicted fate have morphed into butterypitches for “a best in class free trade agreement”.

Such a “best in class” deal could be otherwise described as Theresa Mayite vassalage. It entails sucking Britain into megalomaniac defence projects, allowing Brussels toplunder Britain’s fishing waters, and blessing Britain with freedom for the small price of sacrificing its competitiveness. This “exceptional offer” is beinggift-wrappedfree of charge in the tangled red ribbons of state aid paperwork and taxation regulations. Available fora limited time only (expires Dec 2020).

In reality, though Brussels knows that its chance to flog Britain the worst trade deal in history is slipping away. It can no longer fall back on the backstop to keep us locked in Hotel California. Boris Johnson’s thumping majority also means Britain’s "no deal" bargaining chip is back in play:aWTO Brexitwould pass through Parliament reasonably comfortably. Revelations this week that, in the event of no deal,Japanese car giant Nissan would considerdoublingdown on the UK to boost its domestic market share, and protect its Sunderland plant,underline the inconvenient truth:Project Fear premonitions are overblown, andBritain could cope perfectly well without a trade deal.

It is also becoming embarrassingly clear that the EU has no actual strategy. Only the clapped out choreography of a collapsing robo-bureaucracy. The most tedious of its “secret moves” is sequencing. Granted, this was how Brussels tripped up that lurching political equivalent to two left feet, Theresa May. She sealed her fate when she foolishly agreed to settle Northern Ireland before penning a divorce settlement.

But the idea that Boris Johnson’s government would fall for this again is laughable. Still the EU tries its luck: this week Mr Barnier said that before signing up to a trade deal, Britain would have to agree to the EU’s conditions - effectively trying to turn fishing and Gibraltar into the new Irish Border.

Another of the EU’s recycled moves is heel dragging. It intends to bog Britain down with absurd and nonsensically disparate demands until the deadline is near. The idea being that Boris Johnson will feel political pressure to avoid breaking his promise to settle Brexit by the end of the year - and thus sign up to a dud deal.

Britain’s counter-move is already evident - to negotiate trade deals with the United States and other countries, as talks with Brussels flounder; Cummings and co are determined to send out the message that if the EU does not want to engage in talks then that it can go jogging.

Indeed, Trade Secretary Liz Truss announced on Thursday that Britain is seeking huge reductions in tariffs from a trade deal with the United States. The Government also intends to begin negotiations with Japan, Australia and New Zealand in the coming months.

And so the EU gets more and more desperate. In a stumbling tribute to Orwellian doublespeak, its most ridiculous new wheeze is semantic. It is genuinely trying to get Britain to accidentally enslave itself by changing the meaning of basic words.

This includes the preposition “In”. Britain has rejected staying “in” the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions. Brussels’ solution? Offer “access” to the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions.

Then there is the oldest trick of the bureaucratic sociopath: the unflinching lie. My favourite peddled by the EU this week is that free movement must continue as the condition for any trade deal. Even though the EU has, in the Political Declaration, conceded the precise contrary.

It is increasingly clear that Brussels is the new Theresa May of these negotiations. And it is finally heading for a rude awakening.

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Clavinova · 13/02/2020 10:08

Further proof that the zen diagram of Brexit enthusiasts and climate change deniers is a circle.

I said I was a climate 'emergency' (Greta) denier - not a climate change denier.

Oh dear, we are all doomed if the climate emergency believers are members of the frequent flyer club as well. Grin

Peregrina
Easy enough to check.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 10:14

Not my post, and I am not wasting time hunting around for who did say it.

ContinuityError · 13/02/2020 10:26

Not my post, and I am not wasting time hunting around for who did say it.

Ermmm ... Clav is right, it easily searchable if you go back far enough.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 10:36

Jasjas / Peregrina

Make your minds up. Previously saying that attendance of meetings in EU by jumping on a plane was preferred to video conferencing/Skype, etc.,

Now it’s let cancel all aviation because it pollutes the air.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 10:45

Well, what do you know? Back in September 2018 I did say that. And would you know, by a very strange co-incidence that very week my son announced that he had got a job abroad.

So I owe Clavinova an apology on that one. The position with the organisation he did get the job with was one which said that if Brexit happened, they would honour the contracts of those already in post.

I don't think it has altered the statement though, that it is much more difficult, and that people who once would be considered for a post, are now much less likely to be offered one.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 10:52

Sadly, Brexit has helped drive my children out of the country

Can’t see 17.4 million people agreeing that Brexit should be cancelled because Peregrinas children have left the UK.

People from UK have emigrated to other countries for decades long before Brexit came about.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 10:55

Mystery - Brexit has happened. Get over it, you won.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:12

@ContinuityError

A question for the expert, but fallible as acknowledged by Malylis, economists

Does air travel assist or impede trade?

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:21

Mystery - Brexit has happened. Get over it, you won

It’s the remainers (aka bad losers) that need to get over it. Everything is blamed on Brexit in a pathetic attempt to overturn a democratic result.

Now climate change is due to Brexit!

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 11:24

Climate change due to Brexit? If you say so Mystery.

ContinuityError · 13/02/2020 11:25

@MysteryTripAgain

Why are you asking me? I’m not an economist, fallible or otherwise. There plenty of info out there if you care to look.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 11:30

Well maybe a volcano will blow and cool the earth, oh and help cut down air travel while we are about it. This depends on which one erupts, and by how much.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:32

that it is much more difficult, and that people who once would be considered for a post, are now much less likely to be offered one

Garbage. I have worked in the following countries since late 80s

India
UAE
Indian Ocean
Turkey
US
Thailand
Taiwan
Japan
Germany
Bulgaria
Russia
Azerbaijan
Kazakhstan
Papua New Guinea
Iraq
Malaysia
Netherlands

And my UK passport has never been a hindrance.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:35

Climate change due to Brexit? If you say so Mystery

I am not

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:37

@Mistigri

A question to expert, but often wrong as per Maylis, economists;

Does air travel assist or impede trade?

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 11:37

If you say so Mystery.

Not that you know which organisation I am talking about, but I should have said 'in his organisation'.

A bit like the Referendum had questions in invisible ink, which revealed itself when you ticked the Leave box.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:41

@peregrina

Volcanoes release carbon dioxide which warm the planet.

ContinuityError · 13/02/2020 11:42

We’re seeing quite a few service providers not having EU based contracts renewed.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:44

A bit like the Referendum had questions in invisible ink, which revealed itself when you ticked the Leave box

I don’t remember any questions appearing by magic on the ballot paper.

ContinuityError · 13/02/2020 11:45

@MysteryTripAgain

Volcanoes release carbon dioxide which warm the planet.

It’s a fraction of the amount of anthropogenic CO2 emissions.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:47

We’re seeing quite a few service providers not having EU based contracts renewed

Is that solely due to Brexit or due to the pound gaining in strength against the Euro?

Thought you were In oil and gas?

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 11:47

And volcanoes release 'ash' (which isn't ash as burnt in a fire) and the particulates can cool the planet. Try
Little Ice Age.

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:49

It’s a fraction of the amount of anthropogenic CO2 emissions

About 100 times less apparently.

So are we then going to ban the use of fossil fuels in the future?

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 11:54

And volcanoes release 'ash' (which isn't ash as burnt in a fire) and the particulates can cool the planet

So let’s trigger all the volcanoes around the world so people suffer from;

Respiratory failure
Fire
Earthquake

ContinuityError · 13/02/2020 12:02

@MysteryTripAgain

Yes, we provide O&G technical consultancy services. And it’s nothing to do with currency fluctuations, I’d have thought you’d realise that rates reflect the oil price? It’s all to do with the issues around providing cross-border services within the EU from UK based companies that will no longer be part of the SM at the end of the year.