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The EU has no negotiating strategy - according to the Telegraph

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BeaStoic · 09/02/2020 09:00

The EU is scoffing with panic. This week, its leaders neurotically laughed off the threat of a Parliament shutdown, as bureaucrats slammed their fists over post-Brexit budget cuts. Press officers tuttingly buried an economic report warning that Brexit will rock bloc economies.But they struggled to firefight raging speculation as to who might follow Britain out the door. As rumours rumbled of anItalexitdebt crisis, Marine Le Pen thundered that a global Eurosceptic movement has infiltrated Brussels.

Perhaps the most intriguing development this week, however, isMichel Barnier’s shift in persona. Mere months ago, Mr Barnier was gloomily instructing Britain to sign up to vassalage. Lecture highlights included “why Britain must take responsibility” (by becoming an EU satellite state) and why “choices” (for example liberty) must have “consequences”. But suddenly, the school master has a snake oil salesman. His arid presentations on Britain’s self-inflicted fate have morphed into butterypitches for “a best in class free trade agreement”.

Such a “best in class” deal could be otherwise described as Theresa Mayite vassalage. It entails sucking Britain into megalomaniac defence projects, allowing Brussels toplunder Britain’s fishing waters, and blessing Britain with freedom for the small price of sacrificing its competitiveness. This “exceptional offer” is beinggift-wrappedfree of charge in the tangled red ribbons of state aid paperwork and taxation regulations. Available fora limited time only (expires Dec 2020).

In reality, though Brussels knows that its chance to flog Britain the worst trade deal in history is slipping away. It can no longer fall back on the backstop to keep us locked in Hotel California. Boris Johnson’s thumping majority also means Britain’s "no deal" bargaining chip is back in play:aWTO Brexitwould pass through Parliament reasonably comfortably. Revelations this week that, in the event of no deal,Japanese car giant Nissan would considerdoublingdown on the UK to boost its domestic market share, and protect its Sunderland plant,underline the inconvenient truth:Project Fear premonitions are overblown, andBritain could cope perfectly well without a trade deal.

It is also becoming embarrassingly clear that the EU has no actual strategy. Only the clapped out choreography of a collapsing robo-bureaucracy. The most tedious of its “secret moves” is sequencing. Granted, this was how Brussels tripped up that lurching political equivalent to two left feet, Theresa May. She sealed her fate when she foolishly agreed to settle Northern Ireland before penning a divorce settlement.

But the idea that Boris Johnson’s government would fall for this again is laughable. Still the EU tries its luck: this week Mr Barnier said that before signing up to a trade deal, Britain would have to agree to the EU’s conditions - effectively trying to turn fishing and Gibraltar into the new Irish Border.

Another of the EU’s recycled moves is heel dragging. It intends to bog Britain down with absurd and nonsensically disparate demands until the deadline is near. The idea being that Boris Johnson will feel political pressure to avoid breaking his promise to settle Brexit by the end of the year - and thus sign up to a dud deal.

Britain’s counter-move is already evident - to negotiate trade deals with the United States and other countries, as talks with Brussels flounder; Cummings and co are determined to send out the message that if the EU does not want to engage in talks then that it can go jogging.

Indeed, Trade Secretary Liz Truss announced on Thursday that Britain is seeking huge reductions in tariffs from a trade deal with the United States. The Government also intends to begin negotiations with Japan, Australia and New Zealand in the coming months.

And so the EU gets more and more desperate. In a stumbling tribute to Orwellian doublespeak, its most ridiculous new wheeze is semantic. It is genuinely trying to get Britain to accidentally enslave itself by changing the meaning of basic words.

This includes the preposition “In”. Britain has rejected staying “in” the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions. Brussels’ solution? Offer “access” to the single market, with all the accompanying constrictions and conditions.

Then there is the oldest trick of the bureaucratic sociopath: the unflinching lie. My favourite peddled by the EU this week is that free movement must continue as the condition for any trade deal. Even though the EU has, in the Political Declaration, conceded the precise contrary.

It is increasingly clear that Brussels is the new Theresa May of these negotiations. And it is finally heading for a rude awakening.

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frumpety · 12/02/2020 20:28

Just wondering who wrote the original article quoted in the OP ?

ListeningQuietly · 12/02/2020 20:42

The Joy of google .....
copy ten words, put them in as a search term
and .........
www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/02/07/panicked-eu-goes-brexit-meltdown-britain-finally-has-upper-hand/
so
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherelle_Jacobs
Climate change denier to boot

Peregrina · 12/02/2020 21:08

She can deny climate change all she likes, it won't stop it!

However, I do wish they would be more precise in their terminology - the climate has changed continually since the earth was formed - what we are really talking about is human action accelerating warming.

ListeningQuietly · 12/02/2020 21:10

Like BP greenwashing about net zero today FFS

AuldAlliance · 12/02/2020 21:15

I've had a sudden belated thought.
Maybe she means "scoff" as in "eat greedily"?

An attempted synonym for "choking in panic" from someone with limited knowledge of the English language, prepositions, etc.?

But if her first sentence needs that much exegesis...

Clavinova · 12/02/2020 21:29

Climate change denier to boot

Not really...

"Before I explain why the climate “emergency” is the most electrifyingly effective propaganda exercise of the 21st century, two clarifications. I have no fight to pick with glaring evidential realities: surface records clearly show the planet is getting warmer. Nor do I have a culture war-bloodied axe to grind with the fundamental chemistry: carbon dioxide indisputably contributes to the greenhouse effect. But I do take issue with how the mainstream debate has become an insult to both the public’s intelligence and basic science."
...
"One can’t help but feel that we have heard such curiously precise warnings before.Last year the UN warned that we had just 12 years to save the planet.Some scientists say we have approximately 18 months.Or perhaps it is already too late.The experts don’t seem quite sure."

'Climate change denier' is used too often. If you really think we only have 12 years (or 18 months) to save the planet - don't waste your time on here - go and join the tree-huggers before it's too late!

frumpety · 12/02/2020 21:36

Has she called in someone to do a deep clean ? Interesting that she used to work for the Guardian.

ListeningQuietly · 12/02/2020 21:36

The Planet will be absolutely fine.
Humanity and civilisation as we know it will not.
If you support doing nothing I have to hope you do not have children as they will not forgive you in the decades to come.

Clavinova · 12/02/2020 21:42

If you support doing nothing

I agree with sensible, moderate policies - not all the hysteria - like most people I imagine.

Peregrina · 12/02/2020 22:02

How much does our cut and paste queen know about climate science? I suspect precious little.

There have been mass extinctions before, the last being at the end of the Cretaceous.

malylis · 12/02/2020 22:59

Clav never changes.

Poorly analysed lack of critical thinking pieces
Dull.

Then run away when challenged

MysteryTripAgain · 13/02/2020 07:27

Then run away when challenged

Sounds like all those challenged as to why Brexit which has no history can be forecast to be 100% disaster, but stock market that has decades of history can’t be forecast.

So when is the next EU referendum?

Clavinova · 13/02/2020 08:18

Peregrina
How much does our cut and paste queen know about climate science? I suspect precious little.There have been mass extinctions before, the last being at the end of the Cretaceous.

No doubt you've bought a bicycle to get around and won't be travelling by plane again. Don't leave it to other people to save humanity - you've already had 60/70 years of contributing to the climate emergency.

jasjas1973 · 13/02/2020 08:54

Climate change needs global action and co-operation, what the UK does on its own isn't enough, though building a new runway for our polluted skies shows the importance johnson is giving to the subject.

Like trump (or most breixitiers, he just doesn't get it, probably because it requires a little bit of thinking.

Clavinova · 13/02/2020 09:09

building a new runway for our polluted skies

New runways are built to meet demand - stop flying - you lead the way - simples.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 09:13

Will Johnson be lying down in front of the bulldozers?

I will certainly hold my hand up to owning a bike for 30 odd years. Sadly, Brexit has helped drive my children out of the country, so I make plane journeys to see them. This is very much a departure for us, who could go years without getting on a plane, and would chose a long train journey over a long car journey any day.

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 09:16

Have you given up flying Clavinova?

Do you usually catch the bus, (assuming you live somewhere where there is a reliable bus service)?

Clavinova · 13/02/2020 09:20

Sadly, Brexit has helped drive my children out of the country

That's odd - you have often bemoaned that Brexit was going to keep them in the country!

e.g;
"Mine were hoping to go abroad for a couple of years work experience - if you have to get visas and work permits it's not impossible, but much more difficult.The international firms which DS was applying for don't seem to be recruiting UK passport holders at the moment. Does it matter about not working abroad? Yes, in some industries it broadens your experience and is a valuable asset on your CV."

Clavinova · 13/02/2020 09:23

Have you given up flying Clavinova?

No, of course not - unlike you I'm a climate emergency denier. Grin

Mistigri · 13/02/2020 09:24

Further proof that the zen diagram of Brexit enthusiasts and climate change deniers is a circle.

All bought and paid for by the same people, too.

Mistigri · 13/02/2020 09:24

Zen? Venn!

Peregrina · 13/02/2020 09:29

I don't know who that quote is from - it's not mine. I haven't said anything about Brexit keeping my children in the country, and they are well past their college years, so past benefitting from Erasmus.

What I have said is how easy my daughter found it to move to the EU in the past and contrasted it with one of my own contemporaries 30 years earlier who in very similar circumstances tried and gave up because of the bureaucracy.

Mistigri · 13/02/2020 09:32

But, to keep our spirits up, here at last is a Brexit benefit we can all get behind:
with the U.K. veto no longer effective, the EU has been able to add the Cayman Islands to its tax haven blacklist.

Onwards and upwards!

jasjas1973 · 13/02/2020 09:52

New runways are built to meet demand - stop flying - you lead the way - simples

Runway at Heathrow is being built to keep it as an international hub.

Little to do with domestic demand.

Mistigri · 13/02/2020 10:01

I think Heathrow will be too politically difficult for a government with its hands very full with lots of other very contentious projects. Which if correct is good news.

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