Is the EU falling apart...?

[Frownette]

My mother seems to be convinced it is. She hasn't given a compelling reason.

And someone at the Halifax told her that it was!

I've said it before and it bears repeating that Mysterytripagain is so much of an expert on the EU that I had to inform him last year that MEPs are elected by the public

Nobody commented then I remember. Nor have they today or the other day. So obviously nobody cars. Can’t remember thee thread exactly as I don’t have the same memory as Continuity, but remember that discussion was about Barnier the EU commissioner.

The Single Market: Whose idea was that, remind me.

Profession, not UK economists

And who was Andy at the time?

Article also mentions IMF and OECD predictions are also mentioned, mostly it refers to the profession not just UK economists.

But it is really funny that you were ordering me to read this yesterday in order to try to dismiss economic experts yet you don't really understand it.

But profession does not refer to UK economists, the article doesn't just refer to them either.

Desperation is hilarious, it really, really is funny.

Basic stuff Mystery - didn't you learn anything in school?

Talking about the international date line that passes through London, not how GMT came about.

@MysteryTripAgain Russia is east. It always has been east. You also don’t have to be a military expert to figure out why the likes of Russia and the US of Japan and China are never going to allies in our lifetime for that matter.

Also so much of an expert that they didn't understand the "future relationship" part of article 50 and accused the EU of breaking their own rules (they didn't).

If the intent of Article 50 was to have businesses in EU exporting to UK and vice versa in limbo for years it was a badly thought out Article. How does that benefit anyone?

But it is really funny that you were ordering me to read this yesterday in order to try to dismiss economic experts

If you think the comments in the Article were wrong I await your rebuttal arguments.

Not the point, you didn't understand what it meant and stated incorrect analysis as fact.

Article 50 agrees what the relationship on leaving will look like, there are many different options, under some a trade deal would not be needed (Norway, EEA etc).

You misunderstood it.

I don't post it for people to comment. I post it to expose your ignorance on the EU. And because it amuses me greatly.

@MysteryTripAgain Russia is east. It always has been east. You also don’t have to be a military expert to figure out why the likes of Russia and the US of Japan and China are never going to allies in our lifetime for that matter

US nuked Japan, but they are good trading mates.

But it doesn't really matter as the earth is round and not flat

FFS You are talking to a brexitier, the world is flat and the all powerful Albion is at the centre of everything !

You misunderstood it

Because the logic is flawed. How does businesses on both sides of the channel being kept in limbo for years beneficial.

But it doesn't really matter as the earth is round and not flat

Who said it was? Statement was look at world map on a flat table.

No no no mystery, you see when I said that experts weren't infallible I agreed with the article. However I also made the point that good economic news and accurate predictions rarely make the headlines. I've also explained why the 2008 crash was difficult to predict and why the recession after the leave vote didn't occur.

Its also the case, that I'm a hetrodox economist ai agree with Haldane that many models rely on rationality. However this doesn't mean that all models, and projections can be dismissed.

You used this article to back your dismissal of all experts, and then later cited some of the same to back another erroneous point.

You're funny.

FFS You are talking to a brexitier, the world is flat and the all powerful Albion is at the centre of everything

Says the poster who thought imprisonment of 17.4 million who voted leave sounded good! Cost of doing that is almost same as UK GDP.

International date line passing through London?? A Raabian sense of geography.

And you have been told that whose map matters, regardless of whether the table is flat, or if you are at a desk with an angle, or perhaps you are trying to wrap the map around a globe.

Raab C Nitwit currently in Australia, no doubt amazed that everything isn't upside down.

I think someone is playing too much risk

You used this article to back your dismissal of all experts, and then later cited some of the same to back another erroneous point

Not erroneous. There are several pointers that suggest that some want to break up the EU.

Japan’s FTA with EU is more beneficial to Japan. The Russia report has not been released. Trump is a no deal advocate.

International date line passing through London?? A Raabian sense of geography

Trace it round and it does, but the day change takes place in the Pacific Ocean.

Rabb C Nitwit currently in Australia, no doubt amazed that everything isn't upside down

Why would anything be upside down. Gravity pulls from the centre.

Japan's FTA is more beneficial to the EU, the EU gets access to Japan's services market as well as 0 tariffs on European cars, as well as a host of other things.

The EU had the upper hand. However, its in general very mutually beneficial to both. Covering a third of global GDP and opening further markets to both, why would Japan want to damage this?