For those of us quietly sad about leaving the EU.

[DioneTheDiabolist]

I'm not making a song and dance about it. I'm not falling out with anyone over it. I dont want to debate it. I'm just sad about it.

And that's ok.

Anyone else with me?

I'm sad too. The UK suddenly feels way too small to live in for the rest of my life and my poor children being unable to work and use their language skills easily.

But 1975 was a long time ago and obviously things have changed

Yes that’s why the referendum was correct to call. In 1975 there were 6 or 7 members. In 2016 there were 28.

10 paid in

18 took out

Not like 2016 and the close vote

Yawn.

In a binary choice a majority occurs when one passes 50%. So

50.0000001% wins

@Sunshinegirl82

Fairly close, but how do you explain my 13 years old son wants to do same when his education is complete?

He wants to pursue Engineering and Business like myself and become Like his half sister he is good at languages which I never was.

Yawn

You're just rude and patronising mystery. Unless you were alive then, or voted then, you might well not know how resounding that vote was. Compared to this one. No need to point out to me how percentages work thank you.

Fairly close, but how do you explain my 13 years old son wants to do same when his education is complete

Haha. My DCs had many ideas of certain careers at 13yo ranging from forensics, airline pilot and kung fu teacher, none of which bear any resemblance to their current careers.

Well, first off, he's 13 so let's see how he feels in 10 year's time. I'd imagine the apparent glamour of having no day to day responsibilities is appealing to a child. Unfortunately they often don't have the maturity to understand that your choices are only possible because others (presumably in your case your exDW) have made choices that prioritise the DC over themselves.

Secondly, your son's plans for the future are nothing to do with YOUR inability to understand why huge numbers of people cannot just "move on" by moving elsewhere.

It is easy for you. It is not easy for everyone.

Unless you were alive then, or voted then, you might well not know how resounding that vote was

Too young to vote. As there is a 41 year gap comparison is worthless. EU in 1975 nothing like what is was in 2016

why huge numbers of people cannot just "move on" by moving elsewhere

Obviously not going to happen overnight, but as time passes UK population may dwindle. Like the mining villages that are now ghost towns as people moved to where there was employment.

^^

My DCs had many ideas of certain careers at 13yo ranging from forensics, airline pilot and kung fu teacher, none of which bear any resemblance to their current careers

Guess the Airline Pilot and the King Fu teacher were both boys?

So the UK's population dwindling so that it resembles an ex mining town is what the leave voters are aiming for? It's a good thing? Don't remember that on the side of a bus.

Well, first off, he's 13 so let's see how he feels in 10 year's time

Interestingly also encouraged by his mother. She is disillusioned by UK. Poor earnings and monster taxes. Biggest piss off of all is that those on benefits appear to be just as well, if not better, off.

Stepdaughter worked 2 years in UK after graduating, but is now in UAE.

So why hasn't his mother left the UK?

So why hasn't his mother left the UK

I think she plans to when son is 18.

So she's staying put for your son's benefit? Can you see where we're going with this?

So she's staying put for your son's benefit? Can you see where we're going with this?

My parents volunteered to look after son if his mother wanted to return to her native country, but she did not want to give up the child benefits and child tax credits and child maintenance.

Sorry, you're surprised your exDW didn't want to leave her child with your parents and move to a different country?! Honestly?

I'm not sure you're quite right.

Still, it's a leave vision I haven't encountered before. A ghost town utopia where children are abandoned with the elderly whilst their parents wander the globe searching for work. Thank heavens we now have the freedom to pursue such a future.

Sorry, you're surprised your exDW didn't want to leave her child with your parents and move to a different country?! Honestly

Native country. There's a difference. She plans to return to her native country when son is 18.

Right. But without her child?

I think your ability to live in a different country to your DC without difficulty makes it impossible for you to understand that for the majority of people that would be akin to torture. It makes me go cold just thinking about it.

Again, I think it's pretty clear why you post in the way that you do. You're incapable of understanding any of this and you aren't interested in trying to understand.

Guess the Airline Pilot and the King Fu teacher were both boys?

You guess wrong.

but she did not want to give up the child benefits and child tax credits and child maintenance

You are beginning to sound increasingly bitter...

My parents volunteered to look after son if his mother wanted to return to her native country, but she did not want to give up the child benefits and child tax credits and child maintenance.
Well thank God for that! So you've been abroad for 30 years and have a 13 year old son, so presumably you've hardly seen him, never mind bothering to do the emotional grunt work of actually bringing him up. It's very easy to move to a different country if you have absolutely no relationship with your child!

Fairly close, but how do you explain my 13 years old son wants to do same when his education is complete?
Probably because he realised what a cushy number you have, flying all over the world while his mother has to bring him up. Or maybe he craves the approval of his absent father?