The Brexit Arms: Are We Nearly There Yet? 🇬🇧🚗↩️🇪🇺

[SingingLily]

No, not yet, but soon. Just 24 more sleeps until we legally leave the EU at 11pm on 31 January and finally enter the transition period after what seems like centuries of argument, dither and delay. We do so with hope, optimism and a determination to be a good friend and neighbour to the EU, but for now, no one said it better than Winston Churchill.

“This is not the end, this is not even the beginning of the end, this is just perhaps the end of the beginning.”

The Pub Rule is the same as it always was: all welcome but only if you leave goadery outside. The first drink is on the house.

And all the others, seen them directed at people so many times.

Doesn't change the fact that this isn't a private thread, people like me are free to post within the rules (unlike others here) and this is Mumsnet, not your private den.

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Going for a wine tasting at a local vineyard next week me and Mr Sheldon are having a little 31st get together for like minded and converted friends and family to toast the triumph of democracy over abusive gaslighting hopefully with a nice bottle of local sparkling (got the Moet on ice just in case obv)
Am surprised how many secret Leavers have come out in the open since the election.

Going for a wine tasting at a local vineyard next week

That sounds interesting, Infinite. We've bought a couple of bottles of English wine recently - our supermarket seems to be focussing more on English, Australian, NZ and Californian wines since the GE - and they were really good quality.

Did a wine appreciation course once (in the days when my alcohol intake wasn't as strictly limited) and learned what to look for in terms of appearance and taste. English wine is top notch.

Enjoy your tour!

Oooh, sounds good infinite!

I’ll be drinking OJ on the 31st... dry 2020! 😱😂

Well, I fully intend to celebrate leaving the EU on 31st January.
And I would very much like Big Ben to bong and accordingly have donated to the go fund me page. If I want to spend my own money that way, then I will.
I celebrated the Bojo's huge majority and will celebrate this.
I will be celebrating-
Having a functional Parliament
Have a neutral speaker
No longer having MPs who are deliberately trying to go against the referendum result
Voters getting rid of Anna Soubery, Gaulk, Hammond et al who did everything they could to stop Parliament from functioning.

I will be playing 17m f...k offs and hoping it gets to number 1.

And, over the last few years I have been bullied on here and on the other thread by remainers calling me a racist and other very nasty names.

I’ll be drinking OJ on the 31st... dry 2020!

Me too, Epic, but I'll also toast the regulars in the Arms and - this is the dare I've set myself - I'm going to create the opportunity to say to Robert Buckland "Please tell the Foreign Secretary Dusty sends her love. Armed Forces, you know". That should do it, I reckon.

Lily yes, off this weekend

I did a wino course once but don’t remember much about it except that the cellar, near St James of Piccadilly, had lots of ghosts apparently!

I haven’t seen PMQs, I’ll have a look.

I love good wine wherever it's from. English sparkling can be lovely. I opened a bottle (or 3) of Digby Brut when I celebrated my naturalisation. Highly recommend it.

thing is, I 'know' some posters from other long-running threads, where I know them not to be goady or divisive. So it seems a shame that there are goad-ers or divid-ers (are they words?) when we are talking about something as important as what happens - or doesnt - after Feb 1st.

Whether you agree or not, Brexit has probably been the single most divisive issue this country has ever seen, and if we want to go ahead peaceably - which I am assuming we all do - then there has to be give and take on both sides. IMO.

Maybe remainers should book a table in the pub. Hi Ned :) Hi Yolo. I wonder if they'll serve us.

yes mistigri I am sure they will as most are nice people! Some will give us funny sideways looks, like when you enter the 'wrong' sort of pub (for being female, a southerner/northerner/not welsh etc, for being gay/not gay etc etc) but I doubt they'll get the billiard cues out for a bashing!

We have an English vineyard close by. It's wines are delicious. It's prices are astronomical.

“Whether you agree or not, Brexit has probably been the single most divisive issue this country has ever seen”

Oh, believe me, I agree with you on this, the point I am making, is that all I did was vote in a democratic referendum, I have zero responsibility for how people decided to react to the result of that referendum (on either side) therefore, I take zero responsibility for healing the ‘divide’. Why should I? I voted and I post on a parenting forum with like minded people, that’s all, I’m not Dave the twat, I didn’t make the referendum happen. I duly voted as requested, as did you. I suspect many others feel the same. I’m honestly not trying to be difficult, but I really don’t see how the responsibility to heal any resulting divide rests on the shoulders of myself and other leavers purely because we voted ‘the wrong way’. Nothing will convince me that I/we should make any ‘Effort’ in this regard.

Time will take over and time heals many things, ultimately most people will just return to normal life and this will all just become one of those weird moments of collective madness (both sides) in the history books. (Or Wikipedia 😉)

“Maybe remainers should book a table in the pub. Hi Ned smile Hi Yolo. I wonder if they'll serve us.”

If you came in peace, of course we would.

“which I am assuming we all do - then there has to be give and take on both sides. IMO”

Missed this bit sorry YOLO.

Yolo, thank you.

This has been a relatively good-natured thread for a little while now and I am keen to see it stay that way.

I don't want to endlessly fight the referendum result and, both online and in RL, I make it clear that I respect people's reasons for voting as they did. It's the only way we can begin to move forward. But I expect reciprocal treatment - and that's not unreasonable either.

NiceGuyNeddie

Why do you want to post on a thread full of people you have absolutely nothing in common with?
No one can stop you or anyone else posting here, but it is a brexit supporters thread so it’s a bit strange that you’d want to be here, most remainers probably hide these threads. I know I would if I’d voted remain.

dirtyrottenscoundrel for me it's about seeing what other people think. I'm an ardent remainer, it's true; but my side lost and in order to come to terms with that its important to try and understand. I'm not sure I ever will, but I'm not interested in the divisions now, it's about what happens next. I come in peace, as do many (fuck me, sounding a bit Meghan Markle there!)

Yolo, are you OK?

epic I know its not your responsibility how people react, I get that. I would just like to see a way forward where people arent so black and white. Some people on here seem to be able to see both sides, a bit of this a bit of that, and that seems like ground we should build on. Here endeth the sermon.

singinglily thank you SO much for asking, it means a great deal!

Just watched Thornberrys speech for leadership (badly read from a script).

Summary: Her dad walked out on her, she was bullied at school, she did lots of working class jobs, she heard voices in her head, she became a barrister when all other barristers were corrupt, she stood up for miners against Thatcher, she stood up for gay men....

She will be the woman who stands up.

But she is filled with sorrow they lost the election which was only about Brexit. And she will tell Boris 'NO'.

She was proud to be loyal to Corbyn, he did a great job and he should be thanked.

Sky couldn't be arsed to show the whole speech, it was pretty vanilla, she is pretty bad at speeches. Pass the sick bucket.

I hope a lot of remainers and/or visitors from the other thread do come here, especially on 31st.
I am sure you would be served and made most welcome.
(Although it's a long way for Misti from France). Everyone has always been welcome.
We would extend the hand of tolerance and friendship and hope that you would do the same.

I am not ashamed of my views or my votes and won't hide them. But I fully accept that others feel differently. Doesn't mean we can't drink together.

NiceGuyNeddie

Why do you want to post on a thread full of people you have absolutely nothing in common with?

Well we're all in the Brexit boat together and on Mumnet so that's two things for a start.

There's just no need for pp on here to get so aggressive and try to chase others off the thread because they're afraid to be disagreed with